The Pride the #1 Reality Show Fact or Fiction

[slapshot]

But Florida is a D-1 school.

The argument is out of classification schools, and how they are compared to bigger classified schools. On average. Not on a one game basis.

Alco beat MSJ last year. Is it safe to say then, that Alco a class A school would consistently beat MSJ, a 4A school? That's the argument I'm making.

The way some folks are saying that Dunbar is unworthy because they don't beat the big private schools. I don't follow nor agree with that logic.

Florida vs Michigan...just messing with you. It's a B10 vs SEC thing.

Let me start by saying that Dunbar is an exception from the norm at 1A - IMO. I also think that any school that has a magnet program, or other vehicles to pull kids in from other school districts, has an advantage. Much like the private schools have over public schools - they have no geographical boundaries that restrict where their players come from.

All this said, I'm sure there must be some data, some real statistics that validate the premise, that on average, the more kids a non-magnet public school has, the more competitive it is with respect to a smaller non-magnet public school. If not, why even have classifications in the first place? The theory being - the larger the school, the larger the talent pool to field a team from. Of course coaching and the ability to pull talented players from other school districts will change the equation. Dunbar is one such example.

[DenverMatt]

Come up to the Harrisburg area and play a good Mid-Penn league team Dunbar. Then you will be introduced to REAL high school football.....

[city40blast]

Everyone can say what they want but them 6 rings talks n types louder then anything else

[poetpride jodii]

Hey trip I totaly agree with you..there's a lot of tlkin going on right now but we will c who is still tlkin in september when the pads come on.

[griffey3]

You B-More folks really confuse an outsider like me. You say Dunbar should play a quality opponent like MSJ but every time I turn around, someone else is calling MSJ weak. The western boys say Allegany took out MSJ last season and Fort Hill is in line to spank some MSJ rump the coming season. I personally saw MSJ at River Hill's 7 on 7 last year and thought they had a JV squad on the field. So what's up with this! Is the quality of opponents shakey across the board or what?

And it's the norm -- at least in PG -- to play 8 league and two out-of-league games. Places like DC have been known to play 5 league and 5 out-of-league games.

Play Loyola or Gilman and then we'll talk!!

[92 Card]

Fact or Fiction (the pilot)

Dunbar has transfers?
Yes, but so does Edmondson, Poly and City. All of us have more than 5 this year. Who had over 6000 hit talking about theirs? Last year City had 6 transfers but it wasn't an issue because they got 1 win per transfer. Not a shot; this is a Fact. Dunbar has about 6 this year. QB Evan Pittman a kid that has not been given chance to start. RB quarries Sr. RB with 0 offers. OL "big Corey" another kid that didn't get any PT at the hall that looks like he should have. Corey is about 6'3 280 with feet like a RB. MLB Reynard (last) from Calvert hall. This kid is a beast with 0 offers. The Biggest lineman in the area from Mervo. The kids is about 6'4 350. The kid has a lot of mustang qualities soooo he'll need a lot of coaching, right now he's just big. Another 6'3 350 kid from City. This kid wanted to be a Poet from day one sooo he never touched the field as a knight. He couldn't transfer last year because there was no space. So there you have it the transfers. Many more are tryna transfer, but Laurence is turning kids away.......Damn, Laurence if Coxson and Goodsen both want to be Poets let them in!! There parents know best . Oh, this is FACT!!

I think Coach Smith's poaching of Donald Davis' senior players at Calvert Hall has been "slightly" misrepresented. This seems like a case of people chirping into the ears (recruiting) of impressionable young men. It is undeniable the Hall will greatly miss having Reynard Parks in the middle of their defense. However, I do not think this is the beginning of the end for Coach Davis at Calvert Hall nor do I think it will adversely affect the football program in the long run. If a few seniors decided to go to Dunbar for one year and walk away from a Calvert Hall education, so be it. The defection of these seniors will bring this team closer together.

Coach Donald Davis happens to have a group of talented sophomores and juniors who will get a chance to shine in '09. P.J. Quarrie is a serviceable RB who will split time with two other players at Dunbar, just as he would if he chose to stay at The Hall in '09. Calvert Hall has high hopes for a talented sophomore RB (CJ Williams) who received playing time as a freshman. They also have a group of physically talented junior db's with a huge upside. Not to mention last year's JV QB (Steffen Wilkens), who will be moving up to the varsity this season as a sophomore. Wilkens is very similar to Pittman physically, but he possesses a mental toughness and discipline that Pittman lacks. Pittman did not play last season because he lost the job. He lacked a mental toughness required to play the position against the competition The Hall faced week in and week out. If he plays this season at Dunbar when it counts, they may be in deep trouble.

Don't count out Coach Davis just yet. Let's hope Coach Smith and his staff at Dunbar do not find a way to get in the ears of his current players and poach seniors away from Coach Davis in 2010 as well.

[lord_baltimore]

I think Coach Smith's poaching of Donald Davis' senior players at Calvert Hall has been "slightly" misrepresented. This seems like a case of people chirping into the ears (recruiting) of impressionable young men. It is undeniable the Hall will greatly miss having Reynard Parks in the middle of their defense. However, I do not think this is the beginning of the end for Coach Davis at Calvert Hall nor do I think it will adversely affect the football program in the long run. If a few seniors decided to go to Dunbar for one year and walk away from a Calvert Hall education, so be it. The defection of these seniors will bring this team closer together.

Coach Donald Davis happens to have a group of talented sophomores and juniors who will get a chance to shine in '09. P.J. Quarrie is a serviceable RB who will split time with two other players at Dunbar, just as he would if he chose to stay at The Hall in '09. Calvert Hall has high hopes for a talented sophomore RB (CJ Williams) who received playing time as a freshman. They also have a group of physically talented junior db's with a huge upside. Not to mention last year's JV QB (Steffen Wilkens), who will be moving up to the varsity this season as a sophomore. Wilkens is very similar to Pittman physically, but he possesses a mental toughness and discipline that Pittman lacks. Pittman did not play last season because he lost the job. He lacked a mental toughness required to play the position against the competition The Hall faced week in and week out. If he plays this season at Dunbar when it counts, they may be in deep trouble.

Don't count out Coach Davis just yet. Let's hope Coach Smith and his staff at Dunbar do not find a way to get in the ears of his current players and poach seniors away from Coach Davis in 2010 as well.

How many guys left CH this year for Dunbar? With the pansy schedule the Hall has put together this year....they better walk away with a winning record.

[TheGuru]

How many guys left CH this year for Dunbar? With the pansy schedule the Hall has put together this year....they better walk away with a winning record.

Sounds serious. I guess Mel Kiper and the rest of the Cardinal & Gold Foundation are ready to make a switch if the Hall doesn't win at least 10 games this year? If you have some connections, put your money where your mouth is. Contact City, Poly, Dunbar, Fort Hill, DeMatha, Good Counsel, and get them on the schedule for 2010.

[meth007]

Speaking of Kiper....Well, I save this for the season premier of THE PRIDE in AUGUST.

ALL NEW SEASON AUGUST 15th 8:00 pm EST; 7:00 pm CT

[lord_baltimore]

Sounds serious. I guess Mel Kiper and the rest of the Cardinal & Gold Foundation are ready to make a switch if the Hall doesn't win at least 10 games this year? If you have some connections, put your money where your mouth is. Contact City, Poly, Dunbar, Fort Hill, DeMatha, Good Counsel, and get them on the schedule for 2010.

Don't be a drama queen. I said winning record. 6-5 constitutes a winning record. Where did I say 10 games. Look at this murderers row and tell me you won't be a little bit disappointed if the Hall doesn't manage 6 or 7 wins this year.....
Towson
Largo
Havre De Grace
Southside
Spalding

God forbid I expect Calvert Hall to beat a rag tag collection of MPSSAA doormats (yeah I know HdG was 10-1 last season...Curley could win that league), a B team, and actually pull out 2 wins in the MIAA-A.

For the record...I'll be at every home game rooting for them and I think they'll finish at 8-3. I'm excited about the season.

[TheGuru]

Don't be a drama queen. I said winning record. 6-5 constitutes a winning record. Where did I say 10 games. Look at this murderers row and tell me you won't be a little bit disappointed if the Hall doesn't manage 6 or 7 wins this year.....

I am surprised that you think 7-5 will keep the vultures away. I think Coach Davis needs an 8 or 9 win season to keep CHC boosters such as yourself at bay. BTW, I think the Hall has 12 games scheduled this season if you add SFA on November 13th.

[lord_baltimore]

I am surprised that you think 7-5 will keep the vultures away. I think Coach Davis needs an 8 or 9 win season to keep CHC boosters such as yourself at bay. BTW, I think the Hall has 12 games scheduled this season if you add SFA on November 13th.

7-5 will bring out some vultures but Coach will still get another year...as he would deserve. 6-6 would cause a big ruckus....

We have had this conversation before I believe. But with this schedule 6-6 most likely means a 1-3 or 0-4 record in the MIAA-A again. That is where it counts and a season like that would bring coach Davis' record against MIAA-A opponents to 2-10 or 1-11 after 3 seasons. That wouldn't fly at Gilman, Loyola, or McDonogh either. I mean you can spin it any way you want but 2-10 or 1-11 is just bad. Robinson was fired after going 2-9 over 3 seasons (he went 4-5 in his first 3). The cupboard was bare but this is a school with 1,200 boys we're talking about.

Understand that Davis has been given more resources to work with than Jay Robinson had been so the alumni are expecting a quick turn around....especially since Jay was able to fix Lou's mess in 1 season. Now Donald is expected to clean up Jay's in similar fashion.

You seem to think i'm some elitist CHC booster but i'm just a guy who played for the Hall not all that long ago. I keep my finger on the pulse of the boosters and hear a decent amount through the grapevine. Coach Davis has his detractors but most people still like him going into this season.

[meth007]

3 years ago....it all started

[meth007]

3 years ago

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lE5YtS4mYCM

[meth007]

Evan Pittman
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHGRa-RZ59A