"How come Bolton Hill is white?"

[bmore_ken]

Being poor does not make you more subceptable, just more likely to do drugs based on statistics alone. Is it poverty or a weak personality? Lack of family upbringing? Lack of discipline? Lack of morals? All these things expose you to drugs, you still have a choice. Making the right choice is key. Plenty of poor people that don't do drugs and rich people who do.

Rich people aren't doing it because they're trying to forget that they can't feed their hungry children, pay the BGE bill or rent this month. If you honestly don't believe poor people aren't more subceptable to using drugs, we're wasting our time on this conversation.

[RavnFreek]

Rich people aren't doing it because they're trying to forget that they can't feed their hungry children, pay the BGE bill or rent this month. If you honestly don't believe poor people aren't more subceptable to using drugs, we're wasting our time on this conversation.

Sure.. but you implied that only poor black people have this problem. There are plenty of poor white areas of this country that have the same issues with drugs. It's not the black communities. Its poverty in general. I also don't give a pass for someone hooked on drugs simply because they are poor. You would think if you were poor and can't pay the BGE bill you would not be able to buy drugs.

It also goes backwards, people get hooked on drugs then end up in poverty so you can't blame poverty 100% either.

[bmore_ken]

Sure.. but you implied that only poor black people have this problem.

I didn't imply anything. You read what you wanted into my comments. Happens around here a lot so I'm used to it. I see white people on "Intervention" every week. Lots of people of different races use drugs, but the majority are concentrated in the inner cities, and those aren't white folks. It really isn't rocket science.

[ckferg]

Rich people aren't doing it because they're trying to forget that they can't feed their hungry children, pay the BGE bill or rent this month. If you honestly don't believe poor people aren't more subceptable to using drugs, we're wasting our time on this conversation.

Plenty of middle class and rich people abusing drugs and alcohol. The reasons for drug or alcohol abuse may differ, but it's a significant problem among all socio-economic classes.



Although the rate of drug use is higher among unemployed persons, most drug users are employed - "Of the 17.4 million current illicit drug users aged 18 or older in 2007, 13.1 million (75.3 percent) were employed either full or part time."

Blacks and whites have a similar rate of illicit drug use - "Current illicit drug use varied by race/ethnicity in 2007 among persons aged 12 or older, with the lowest rate among Asians (4.2 percent). Rates were 12.6 percent for American Indians or Alaska Natives, 11.8 percent for persons reporting two or more races, 9.5 percent for blacks, 8.2 percent for whites, and 6.6 percent for Hispanics."

A lot of employed and nonmetropolitan problem drinkers - "Most binge and heavy alcohol users were employed in 2007. Among 55.3 million adult binge drinkers, 44.0 million (79.4 percent) were employed either full or part time. Among 16.4 million heavy drinkers, 13.1 million (79.6 percent) were employed...Binge drinking was equally prevalent in small metropolitan areas (23.4 percent), large metropolitan areas (23.3 percent), and nonmetropolitan areas (23.0 percent)."


http://www.oas.samhsa.gov/nsduh/2k7n...esults.cfm#TOC

http://www.drugfree.org/join-togethe...rich-kids-more

http://healthland.time.com/2011/11/0...s-than-blacks/

[bmore_ken]

There's a big difference between alcohol and crack. Come on son

[RavnFreek]

I didn't imply anything. You read what you wanted into my comments. Happens around here a lot so I'm used to it. I see white people on "Intervention" every week. Lots of people of different races use drugs, but the majority are concentrated in the inner cities, and those aren't white folks. It really isn't rocket science.

You absolutely implied that. You can deny it all you like but that is exactly what you meant and you know it. But it's ok, the white devil made you do it.

[bmore_ken]

You absolutely implied that. You can deny it all you like but that is exactly what you meant and you know it. But it's ok, the white devil made you do it.

I didn't imply anything. You're putting your own spin on it. How the hell are you going to tell me what MY words mean? This board cracks me the hell up sometimes

[RavnFreek]

I didn't imply anything. You're putting your own spin on it. How the hell are you going to tell me what MY words mean? This board cracks me the hell up sometimes

Quote:
Originally Posted by genghiskhanraven
You can watch the TV show Mad Men to see what life was like 50 years ago, boy howdy have things changed.

The bigger question is why would neighborhoods turn into violent cesspools once one race of people move out and another move in?


Then you said..
Drugs that one race of people introduced to those neighborhoods to make money

So which race were you referring too? Maybe you meant Asians?

[bmore_ken]

Quote:
Originally Posted by genghiskhanraven
You can watch the TV show Mad Men to see what life was like 50 years ago, boy howdy have things changed.

The bigger question is why would neighborhoods turn into violent cesspools once one race of people move out and another move in?


Then you said..
Drugs that one race of people introduced to those neighborhoods to make money

So which race were you referring too? Maybe you meant Asians?

Crack and heroine destroyed many black neighborhoods. That's a fact. the post you quoted does not say only blacks use drugs. Again you're putting your own meaning into my words. I'm done with your nutty arse

[RavnFreek]

Crack and heroine destroyed many black neighborhoods. That's a fact. the post you quoted does not say only blacks use drugs. Again you're putting your own meaning into my words. I'm done with your nutty arse

So it was the Asians.. those darn Asians are always bringing crack into my neighborhood too.

[ckferg]

There's a big difference between alcohol and crack. Come on son

Read what I posted, most of it relates to drug use. However, I think you underestimate alcohol. Because it's legal, it doesn't come with baggage that a black market brings. Other than that, the consequences of it's abuse are arguably more devastating and widespread than crack.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504763_1...-10391704.html

[bmore_ken]

Read what I posted, most of it relates to drug use. However, I think you underestimate alcohol. Because it's legal, it doesn't come with baggage that a black market brings. Other than that, the consequences of it's abuse are arguably more devastating and widespread than crack.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504763_1...-10391704.html

I'm not aware of any whole neighborhoods that were devestated by alcohol abuse, it's happened with crack

[ckferg]

I'm not aware of any whole neighborhoods that were devestated by alcohol abuse, it's happened with crack

Approximately 9% of Baltimore City's population is drug dependent. In other words, 91% of the population is not. If neighborhoods are being devastated, there more going on than the actions of 9% of the population.

[boink]

One of the best festivals I went to in Baltimore City in a long time was Bolton Hill's "Festival on the Hill," last October.

The weather was clear and cool, a good mix of people, not too crowded.

One of the vendors had a small bar with draught beer and just several stools, a mini bar outside.

There was live music. One group of singers was women mostly from Roland Park. They sang a respectable version of Captain and Tenille's "Love Will Keep Us Together."

http://www.facebook.com/events/465116663549316/?ref=nf

[TheResearcher]

Drugs that one race of people introduced to those neighborhoods to make money

This is absolutely true.

One race brought drugs into the neighborhoods and walked around having the drugs shake hands with everybody and then forced the poor indiginent folk to the ground and CRAMMED those drugs down their throats.

Why, if those evil drug-introducers hadn't forced these poor indiginent folk to take these drugs, if they had given them a choice to turn down the drugs, the poor indiginent folk would have done so and all of these neighborhoods would be utopian Gardens-of-Eden where businesses thrived, families prospered and all people would be able to live there in peace and harmony.

[ivanbalt]

Approximately 9% of Baltimore City's population is drug dependent. In other words, 91% of the population is not. If neighborhoods are being devastated, there more going on than the actions of 9% of the population.

Ever been to Baltimore? Doesn't sound like it.

[Jeebus]

Chris Rock: (emphasis mine)

Drug dealers don’t really sell drugs. Drug dealers offer drugs. I’m 30 years old. Ain’t nobody ever sold me drugs. Ain’t nobody ever sold nobody in this room some drugs. Was you ever in your life not thinking about getting high and somebody sold you some ****ing drugs. Hell, no!

Drug dealers offer, “Hey man, You want some smoke? You want some smoke?” If you say “no,” that’s it. Now Jehovah’s Witnesses on the other hand. ****. Yo man, drug dealers don’t sell drugs. Drugs sell themselves. It’s crack. It’s not an encyclopedia. It’s not a ****ing vacuum cleaner. You don’t really gotta try to sell crack, OK? I’ve never heard a crack dealer go, “Man, how am I going to get rid of all this crack? It’s just piled up in my house.”

http://suburra.com/blog/2012/05/21/chris-rock-on-drugs/

[bmore_ken]

This is absolutely true.

One race brought drugs into the neighborhoods and walked around having the drugs shake hands with everybody and then forced the poor indiginent folk to the ground and CRAMMED those drugs down their throats.

Not what I said but thanks for the laugh

[bmore_ken]

Approximately 9% of Baltimore City's population is drug dependent. In other words, 91% of the population is not. If neighborhoods are being devastated, there more going on than the actions of 9% of the population.

Can you back that number up with some documentation? Thanks in advance

[Baltimatt]

Ken--

I was working the door most of the evening, but I did buy the book and get it signed by Mr. Pietila. It looks quite interesting. Did you make it?