Indy 10 - 1 SB
Philly 9
NE 8 - 3 SB
Pitt 7 - 2 SB
Balt 7 - 1 SB
Packers 7
Giants 6 - 1 SB
Seattle 6
Jets 6
Bucs 5 - 1 SB
Indy 10 - 1 SB
Philly 9
NE 8 - 3 SB
Pitt 7 - 2 SB
Balt 7 - 1 SB
Packers 7
Giants 6 - 1 SB
Seattle 6
Jets 6
Bucs 5 - 1 SB
4/5 years in the divisional round of the playoffs, and 3 straight years. We just need to get over the hump, we don't need to become Philly.
This list includes 9 Superbowl winners. If you are counting from the 2000 season, which means the '01 Superbowl (which you must be since you list the Ravens having won one), You have to include the New Orleans Saints and their Superbowl win.
Regardless, we have 7 out of 10 championships won in the AFC. 6 of 10 have been won by the AFC East and AFC North, one of these divisions will be in the Superbowl again this year. Crazy.
Most Superbowl Appearances since 2000:
NE - 4 (3/1)
Giants - 2 (1/1)
Pitt - 2 (2/0)
Indy - 2 (1/1)
I guess Philly, GB, Jets and Seattle are all failures.
I wonder if Philly fans have quit their team...Andy Reid I guess should have been booted out years ago huh?
Philly certainly is.
(At least you managed to highlight the best teams -- Steelers & Pats. Second to them would be the Colts. And after that...the Ravens. The real kicker is...the Ravens COULD have been up there or even ahead of those truly elite teams, if only they had been managed in a more comprehensive fashion -- from the owner, to the GM, to the coaching staff. THAT'S the kicker; that's BEEN the kicker; and that will continue to BE the kicker until fundamental changes are made from the top on down. However, judging by yesterday's presser, it's not going to happen any time soon. So you might as well kick back and enjoy the 2nd/3rd tier; you're going to be re-visiting that same place for many more years to come.)
Colts are failures too.
7/10 first round exits. 4 losses at home. Hell of a pattern. Repeated again this year. Embarrassing. How many #1 seedings were wasted by those one and done efforts??
Might as well not even go to the playoffs if you lose in the 1st round 70% of the time. Just a tease.
Manning could very well be the worst playoff QB in history. No one has had more chances to win a SB than him, and he only has 1. He has a LOSING 9-10 playoff record.
Last edited by bt12483; 01-21-2011 at 11:57 AM.
I get your point, and I mostly agree that the angst among certain fans is overblown. Mr. Bisciotti's stated goal is to be among the very best, and the Ravens surely are there. If you run a construction company, an airline, or a radio station, or compete in any other industry, being right near the top is a great achievement.
The thing about sports, though, is that at the end of the season there is only one champion; everyone else is an also-ran. That is why critics frothed at the mouth after Ravens' wins this year over, say, Buffalo or Texas. Yes, the win is important, but when they looked clumsy doing it discerning folks could see this wasn't a real Super Bowl contender. That is why we heard so much grousing after a win. They just never looked like they had the championship stuff, and that proved to be true.
I personally place a high value on being proud of the way our team does things, having a good organization with good people, strong in the community and providing a lot of excitement, entertainment and success all season long. There's a lot to be said for that, and there are a lot of teams that cannot touch the Ravens organization. But in the sports biz, there is only one true measure of success - a trophy and a ring.
Count me as one of those fans, I'm happy with where this team has come since Billicks last year and am excited about the future but I'd be lying if I didn't fear becomin the Eagles South. My hope is that Ozzie, Biscuit, Harbaugh and everyone see's whats happened in Philly and avoids that.
Just like when it comes to this season's wins and losses -- failure is not defined as much by the w/l's, but by the WAY in which the games were won and lost. Beating yourself -- over and over again -- is inexcusable. Not fixing glaring mistakes over the course of an entire season is inexcusable. And rewarding the very coaches who have failed to do what they were hired to do is inexcusable. That is the ultimate failure. The Ravens are home now because of the total failure of the coaching staff over the course of the entire season, and they are now being rewarded with being allowed to retain their jobs, and with pending contract extensions.
Likewise, the Ravens squandered years under Billick/Boller because of the failure of the FO to pull the plug, when it was obvious to the rest of the world that the Ravens were going nowhere with Billick/Boller. Those types of systemic failures are different than legitimate wins and losses. But hey...if you think it makes your team better by pointing out other team's failures -- which appears to be the case -- knock yourself out.
Pretty inexcusable for your #1 receiver to have 1 reception for 1 yard in a home playoff game. Funny - he got shut down the last time they played the Jets too. Guess they didn't learn from their mistakes.
Again - no one in the playoffs the last 10 years has failed more than the Colts at winning a SB.
If it takes pointing out other team's failures to make you feel better about that - knock yourself out.
Manning has as many rings as Ray Lewis. Guess they are both failures.
LOL. You're funny.
(You should have made the title of this thread "The Most Squandered Opportunities Since 2000". The Ravens would top the list. At least the Colts have won more than their share of division championships, have been to 2 super bowls, and are at least an elite team on offense. They overcame mind boggling injuries in 2010 to win their division. And the list goes on and on. The Ravens...not so much.)
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