Indiana takes a giant step backwards

[Mom49of4]

I would never insult you. I'm in the middle of cooking dinner, but I'll elaborate more I'm done.

Matt it was not directed at you as I know you would not insult me.

What is for dinner? I might be a coming. lol

[Grindelwald]

Most people are idiots.

Let's see some hard scientific Proof.

What reason is there to believe they are not?

[Eastside Terp]

What reason is there to believe they are not?

people make life style choices all the time that are not biological or genetic ......

[Baltimatt]

Mom--

Spaghetti and sausage. My son and a friend of his are over, so it will probably be gone by the time you get here.

[kudzu]

What reason is there to believe they are not?

Seriously ? I ask for scientific proof and this is what you come back with ?

[Mom49of4]

Mom--

Spaghetti and sausage. My son and a friend of his are over, so it will probably be gone by the time you get here.

That is okay.

[kudzu]

sausage

Ha ! that goes without saying.

[Grindelwald]

people make life style choices all the time that are not biological or genetic ......

That does not mean in anyway shape or form that homosexuals are not born that way. Homosexuals can not help feeling sexual desires toward someone of the same sex. The only choice they have is whether or not to act on those desires.

Seriously ? I ask for scientific proof and this is what you come back with ?

Yes, seriously. What makes you think that homosexuals are not born that way?

[kudzu]

That does not mean in anyway shape or form that homosexuals are not born that way.

You clearly have no scientific training whatsoever.

What you're asking is akin to us proving that you do not molest poodles.

[Eastside Terp]

That does not mean in anyway shape or form that homosexuals are not born that way. Homosexuals can not help feeling sexual desires toward someone of the same sex. The only choice they have is whether or not to act on those desires.

Yes, seriously. What makes you think that homosexuals are not born that way?

that's your opinion ......

most folks that champion a scientific theory such as homosexuality is biological understand the need for evidence .......

[kudzu]

Yes, seriously. What makes you think that homosexuals are not born that way?

Um, because there's no proof of that whatsoever.

From a simple blood sample, we can tell a person's racial makeup, sex, etc.

If a person was born homosexual, there would be a readily identifiable marker to tell us so.

[Grindelwald]

You clearly have no scientific training whatsoever.

What you're asking is akin to us proving that you do not molest poodles.

Nope. Try again.

[kudzu]

Nope. Try again.

Exactly. Try again.

And bring some proof.

[Grindelwald]

Exactly. Try again.

And bring some proof.

There are plenty of studies showing "gay genes".

http://www.webmd.com/sex-relationshi...there-gay-gene
http://www.livescience.com/2623-gays-dont-extinct.html
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn6519

I have a feeling I'm going to get the usual surrender of "Those links are crap".

So tell me what makes you think they are not born with it?

[Baltimatt]

no I am .......

I am for the Fair Tax as well but that doesn't mean I don't take any deductions .......

you have to play by the rules of the game until they change them ........

I am working to change them .......

I would rather that all folks pay the same taxes, be able to designate anyone they want as beneficiaries, visit anyone in the hospital, etc. without the government being involved .....

I don't mean to be getting too personal, but when a married person says government marriage is a crock ...

You could always get a divorce and live with your ex-spouse as legal strangers.

If your spouse predeceases you, you go probably forego the marital exemption on transfers of property you jointly owned, any pension benefits she may have accrued, etc.

Again, I don't like to go there, but just bringing up some things to think about.

[Baltimatt]

Ha ! that goes without saying.

And if I were cooking eggplant parmesan, as I did the other week?

[Baltimatt]

The freedom to be allowed to say what one believes without being attacked.

Yeah, the rhetoric gets rather heated at times, but it's not just the pro-SSM side that does it.

Homosexuals get called every name in the book when they seek marriage. We are constantly lied about, with claims that we oppose traditional marriage, are attacking marriage, etc. When folks try to deny any kind of recognition to our relationships and families, yes, we get rather upset and fight back.

[demopublican]

If two people want to spent their lives together in a gay lifestyle that fine with me. I also think whatever wealth/property/insurance they build together should be treated no different than a married couple.

That's not the problem most people on the right have a problem with. Its the in your face attitude of the gay lifestyle that bothers people where the gay community thinks they have more rights than the rest of us just because they are gay. Most of us couldn't care less whom your shagging. Its the "I queer and I am here" the majority of the gay community portrays on to the rest of us that bothers people.

Oh those uppity people getting all in your face with their quest to have their families treated just like everyone else. The nerve of some people.

[Calamari]

There are plenty of studies showing "gay genes".

http://www.webmd.com/sex-relationshi...there-gay-gene
http://www.livescience.com/2623-gays-dont-extinct.html
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn6519

I have a feeling I'm going to get the usual surrender of "Those links are crap".

So tell me what makes you think they are not born with it?

Kudzu clearly has no scientific training whatsoever.

[Eastside Terp]

I don't mean to be getting too personal, but when a married person says government marriage is a crock ...

You could always get a divorce and live with your ex-spouse as legal strangers.

If your spouse predeceases you, you go probably forego the marital exemption on transfers of property you jointly owned, any pension benefits she may have accrued, etc.

Again, I don't like to go there, but just bringing up some things to think about.

matt, I think you are missing my point .......