Do you really believe Flacco was that good today

[Iron Lion Zion]

Look I'm all for the Ravens winning but Joe missed 4 or 5 wide open receivers today. Smith should have had 5 TD's himself and Joe was barely over 50% at one point today. If you really think the problems of Joe are done, so be it,but I just hope he gets better in his completions as the year goes on.

look at me look at me look at me

your cries for attention are getting pretty pitiful.

[elj1201]

"hate hate hate hate hate hate hate"

[ivanbalt]

by the way,did anyone notice no TD's in the 2nd half today. That is scary to me. If you truly think this offense has no problems with consistency, you are in la la land

Should the Ravens have scored 60 points to make you happy? 500+ yards of offense and people still complain.

[Ravens_Flock]

Look I'm all for the Ravens winning but Joe missed 4 or 5 wide open receivers today. Smith should have had 5 TD's himself and Joe was barely over 50% at one point today. If you really think the problems of Joe are done, so be it,but I just hope he gets better in his completions as the year goes on.

I believe what I stated in an earlier thread: that he got lucky early, because no one gameplanned for Torrey Smith, and he took advantage. You notice that the Rams lowly defense pretty much eliminated Smith from the equation after the 1st quarter. Flacco went back to under-throwing guys, sailing passes way over them, etc., from the 2nd quarter onward. And Cam, bless his retarded heart, got so beside himself with Torrey's amazing one-off performance, that he decided to keep pass-pass-passing the entire rest of the game, even though the Rams have one of the worst run-D's in the NFL.

I believe that Flacco got lucky with Torrey in the 1st, and I believe that Flacco does what he has done since he was drafted...against BAD teams. He put up numbers. But let's see him put up numbers against NY. Let's see Torrey Smith not disappear against the likes of Reevis and Cromartie, let's see us put up numbers against a still very good Jets D. Let's see us not wilt in the second half, and play them tough for 60 full minutes. Then we'll talk.

Quite frankly, we could very easily have another "let down" after another dominating win. We should be 3-0 right now, but Flacco played what is right now ranked the #1 D in the NFL last week. And it showed. The Rams are terrible on D, and it showed. The Jets aren't amazing, but it's still Rex, and they have great players on that side of the ball. Plus they've got Holmes, Burress, Mason, LT, etc. If our offense AND defense play like they did today, then sure, we can beat the Jets. But the problem is, Cam has a habit of reeling in the offense and pulling his rush-rush-pass BS against better teams, and Joe has the frustrating habit of suddenly not looking so fantastic against good defenses. Look how he performed against the Jets last year, after all.

All I'm saying is, I'd LIKE to believe that Flacco and Co. can perform like this at will. But I've seen otherwise for the last three years. So call me cautious, until I see proof to the contrary.

[Ponticar]

by the way,did anyone notice no TD's in the 2nd half today. That is scary to me. If you truly think this offense has no problems with consistency, you are in la la land

By the way did anyone notice the score was 27-0 at halftime and the main concern becomes just running the clock down so they could get back on the plane? Obviously youdidn't.

[Duckey]

I was very surprised that Flacco threw the ball as much as he did. I'm not sure that was the initial game plan or after Smith went wild in the 1st quarter, Cameron just decided to wing it the rest of the way. I figured they'd get pretty conservative against the Rams weak run defense and just pound the ball all day. In any rate, I have a feeling it was a one game anomaly and they'll be back to a more balanced attack against New York. Flacco piled up some impressive yards yesterday but I'd rather see consistency over several games, even if it means 100 yards less.

[durango46]

I wished they would have opened up the playbook last week against the Titans. Things might have turned out differently.

Anybody know how many times they even tried to stretch the field last week ? I don't remember any.

IMO, complete victory this week.

[West Chester Raven]

Glad to see I'm not the only one who isn't buying the snake oil. Yes Joe had a great game. Yes he rolled up the gaudy stats against a Rams secondary that isn't good - and was further hobbled by injuries to starters. Joe victimized a benchwarmer CB for the TD's. That's OK - that's what QB's do in the NFL.
Just keep this in perspective people. When you have the used car salesman on this board parading Joe's stats around, make sure you break things down by the level of competition that they're built up against.
Joe deserves credit for a great game today - but look at the stats next week and again the following week with a fresh set of eyes. I want to see "stats" against good competition - not one of the WORST TEAMS IN THE NFL.
Sorry - I'm not a sucker.

[West Chester Raven]

So the man had almost 400 yards, 3 touchdowns (almost 4 if Boldin doesnt drop the one), and zero picks, and that's not good enough?

Are you really a sucker in real life? The Rams SUCK. To make things worse, the had a CB off the bench starting.
Joe had a great game. He deserves credit - but we want to see him perform when the level of competition is tough.

[West Chester Raven]

It's amazing how pessimistic people can be after a 30 point win.

It's amazing how stupid and gullible some people are.

[ivanbalt]

It's amazing how stupid and gullible some people are.

It's amazing how bitter some people are after we win.

[davenraven]

Are you really a sucker in real life? The Rams SUCK. To make things worse, the had a CB off the bench starting.
Joe had a great game. He deserves credit - but we want to see him perform when the level of competition is tough.

We have cornerbacks off the bench starting as well. Don't tell me other cornerbacks would have covered Smith especially with that closing speed. It is an NFL team. I agree it was an easier game but Flacco was good, do not keep looking to put him down. Look at Matty Ice. I haven't heard a word about him on this board because he has been exposed and the "why isn't Flacco more like Matt Ryan" argument from last year has no bearing. I have heard some mutter about Cam Newton. The grass is always greener but Flacco is good and do not tell me the Steelers D was not tough. He handled them OK.

[BleedingPurple]

It's amazing how stupid and gullible some people are.

LOL

Yeah, those stupid, gullible "fans" enjoying their team's win.

What is wrong with them? They should be carving up the team for only beating the team by 30 pts. They should be skewering the QB for "only" 389 yards.

This is no time to celebrate or give praise.

I find it funny how some seem to create no-win scenarios for Joe Flacco.
It is always heads I win, tails you lose....

If he does good against an avg team, the response is: ha, he should against THAT team.

If he does good against a very good team, the response is: well, he just got lucky this time....lets see him do it regularly against that team (LOL, memories are short....it will take years, at best, to do it "regularly" against many teams...this isnt baseball)

Nevermind the fact that they ignore that Peyton, Tom, Ben, Drew etc....all have their not-so-great games (they are allowed, Flacco is not).

Nevermind the fact that the Ravens have a coaching staff that puts the plan in place and calls plays, recievers that can run a wrong route, Oline and a defense that play parts in whether they win or not..

But, everything is Flacco's fault UNTIL he does great- then we gotta start nitpicking and qualifying everything.....giving credit to the other teams bad defense, etc....

[Peej7245]

Look I'm all for the Ravens winning but Joe missed 4 or 5 wide open receivers today. Smith should have had 5 TD's himself and Joe was barely over 50% at one point today. If you really think the problems of Joe are done, so be it,but I just hope he gets better in his completions as the year goes on.

Flacco overthrew open receivers on 6 passes:

• Two were to Dixson but the fact is that Flacco was under a middle-blitz scheme and had to throw the ball sooner than planned.
  
• One was to Doss who might have given up on the ball as someone has written, but I believe that he adjusted his route differently than Flacco expected.
  
• One was to Smith in the end zone. No pressure, but I believe someone wrote that these are low-percentage passes. For Flacco to connect on them, he needs to be confident in his WRs. More importantly, he needs to try them so he can make his adjustments. He did a few minutes later on the same pattern!
  
• One was to Rice when Chris Long was applying pressure
  
• One was to Boldin when Justin Bannen had broken up the middle.

If you noticed, each of those misses were "just missed" plays and not 10 yd overthrows. Sometimes the QB misses, but sometimes he throws the ball to a spot but its the receiver who doesn't get to that spot.

The concensus of the NFL Network and Sun weenies is that Flacco was moving around in the pocket and buying time in an overall excellent effort. Most people agree, but some have to find fault.

My take? Flacco might not throw for nearly 400 yds against the Jets, but he will find other ways to help the Ravens win.

By the way, who threw for 4TDs but had 4 INTs and lost their game?

[Peej7245]

I believe what I stated in an earlier thread: that he got lucky early, because no one gameplanned for Torrey Smith, and he took advantage. You notice that the Rams lowly defense pretty much eliminated Smith from the equation after the 1st quarter. Flacco went back to under-throwing guys, sailing passes way over them, etc., from the 2nd quarter onward. And Cam, bless his retarded heart, got so beside himself with Torrey's amazing one-off performance, that he decided to keep pass-pass-passing the entire rest of the game, even though the Rams have one of the worst run-D's in the NFL.

I believe that Flacco got lucky with Torrey in the 1st, and I believe that Flacco does what he has done since he was drafted...against BAD teams. He put up numbers. But let's see him put up numbers against NY. Let's see Torrey Smith not disappear against the likes of Reevis and Cromartie, let's see us put up numbers against a still very good Jets D. Let's see us not wilt in the second half, and play them tough for 60 full minutes. Then we'll talk.

Quite frankly, we could very easily have another "let down" after another dominating win. We should be 3-0 right now, but Flacco played what is right now ranked the #1 D in the NFL last week. And it showed. The Rams are terrible on D, and it showed. The Jets aren't amazing, but it's still Rex, and they have great players on that side of the ball. Plus they've got Holmes, Burress, Mason, LT, etc. If our offense AND defense play like they did today, then sure, we can beat the Jets. But the problem is, Cam has a habit of reeling in the offense and pulling his rush-rush-pass BS against better teams, and Joe has the frustrating habit of suddenly not looking so fantastic against good defenses. Look how he performed against the Jets last year, after all.

All I'm saying is, I'd LIKE to believe that Flacco and Co. can perform like this at will. But I've seen otherwise for the last three years. So call me cautious, until I see proof to the contrary.

A 34-17 career winning record? The difference this year is threefold: 1) Flacco has some weapons, 2) Flacco has some weapons, and 3)... well you get the picture.

[Pretzlelogic]

Wow 37 to 7 and people are still fretting.

[Peej7245]

Are you really a sucker in real life? The Rams SUCK. To make things worse, the had a CB off the bench starting.
Joe had a great game. He deserves credit - but we want to see him perform when the level of competition is tough.

...and the Ravens had to start a rookie in place of Evans (a rookie, by the way, that many were already labelling "a bust").

...and the Ravens had their own injury issues to their DBs

...and the Ravens had their third LG starting

...and the Ravens were on the road

The Ravens don't get to pick their opponents, but when a weak one shows up on the schedule, the Ravens did what they are supposed to do - apply a serious beating and get out of there healthy.

BTW, what were you saying about his performance after week 1 (and about tough competition that is)?

[18-87-44-29]

In a word? No. In several...Rams were depleated esp in the 2ndary. And really....they're just not there yet. Like Boomer more or less said @ halftime....'Well no wonder they're winning so big....look who they're playing.' Sam Brad needs a few more pieces around him yet...especially on the other side of the ball.

Ah....but let's see Manwich attempt to (keyword there: attempt) fling it all over the field v. Big Rex and co. O/U: 150 passing yds.

[Rael]

you sunny side optimist keep the faith. I saw screens and slants today,along with many roll outs. Joe is inconsistent ,you guys need to understand winning like this was easy today. Let us see what he does next week. Will he have brain freeze as usual or even hurry his pace like he did today. He even ran for 1st downs today,so someone must have told Cam and Joe to start leading the team and stop playing not to lose.Brain freeze happens alot to Flacco but when he is right, he is very good

Brady threw 4 interceptions yesterday. No QB hits on even 50% of the long passes over the long run. Every single QB, including Brady and Manning make some bad throws every single game.

[ivanbalt]

In a word? No. In several...Rams were depleated esp in the 2ndary. And really....they're just not there yet. Like Boomer more or less said @ halftime....'Well no wonder they're winning so big....look who they're playing.' Sam Brad needs a few more pieces around him yet...especially on the other side of the ball.

Ah....but let's see Manwich attempt to (keyword there: attempt) fling it all over the field v. Big Rex and co. O/U: 150 passing yds.

But you said Bradford would decimate our seconday. No comments to that?