C.C. Sabathia leaving per Valentine

[boulderterp]

Bobby Valentine says he "knows" CC will opt out and head to Los Angeles or Chicago. He acted liked like he knew something. Bobby V creditable or not is right more than wrong. Plus, cc added weight lost stuff of his fastball and got knocked around in playoffs and gave up the winning run last night. I see CC trend heading downhill for the rest of his career, maybe a blessing in disguise if he leaves New York. But either way if he opts out, he will get a bigger longer deal than he has now. Dealing Ian Kennedy bit the Yankees in the arse also.

[tjb13]

Did Valentine speculate that Girardi will be fired and that he would be hired to take the NYY job?

[tjb13]

First relief appearance by Sabathia in his entire professional career.

His stats were off the second half, but far better than most MLB pitchers. I'd love to see him go "Downhill" in an Oriole uniform.

[Norman]

Did Valentine speculate that Girardi will be fired and that he would be hired to take the NYY job?

Stop that!

[Stellar2213]

Why listen to a blowhole like Valentine......it's like reading Moon all the time.

[bmore_ken]

First relief appearance by Sabathia in his entire professional career.

His stats were off the second half, but far better than most MLB pitchers. I'd love to see him go "Downhill" in an Oriole uniform.

Come on son. 19-8, 3.00 ERA, 230Ks, we can't have that in Birdland

[weird-O]

Come on son. 19-8, 3.00 ERA, 230Ks, we can't have that in Birdland

the O's are eyeing him as a potential FA pickup in the winter of 2022. he'll be 40+ yrs old and running on fumes and past achievement.

that's when the O's will make their move to bring him in to lead the staff.

[dude]

CC is incredibly important to the Yankees at this point.

They ran this season with Colon, Garcia, Nova and Burnett in the rotation.

If they lose CC to FA, they really have a nothing pitching staff next year. If teams just choose not to trade the Yankees some starters, next ywear is trouble. i think they have guys like Matt Cain on the horizen, so it might not be long to get some pitching, but 2012 is trouble.

My guess is he takes a 3/70 extension and they call it a day.....which is exactly the reason a clause like this is in his contract....it's a 7yr-make good (3yr) for 10yr deal.
....unless he just doesn't like it there.

It's exactly the type of contract Fielder would want to sign with a team like the Orioles (or someone).

Go O's.

[Icterus Galbula]

CC is incredibly important to the Yankees at this point.

They ran this season with Colon, Garcia, Nova and Burnett in the rotation.

If they lose CC to FA, they really have a nothing pitching staff next year. If teams just choose not to trade the Yankees some starters, next ywear is trouble. i think they have guys like Matt Cain on the horizen, so it might not be long to get some pitching, but 2012 is trouble.

My guess is he takes a 3/70 extension and they call it a day.....which is exactly the reason a clause like this is in his contract....it's a 7yr-make good (3yr) for 10yr deal.
....unless he just doesn't like it there.

It's exactly the type of contract Fielder would want to sign with a team like the Orioles (or someone).

Go O's.

That is more-or-less what people here said in the winter and the Yankees won 97 games.

[Dirty Frank]

If CC leaves the Yanks, they will find a way to pry Felix loose from the M's.

[Icterus Galbula]

If Sabathia declares free agency the Yankees will be first in line to sign him at a higher rate, right after they sign Fielder, Pujols, Oswalt, Edwin Jackson, C.J. Wilson, and Jose Reyes.

[boulderterp]

It is rumored CC wants to go back home to California, plus add him to Weaver, Haren and that lineup with their first baseman back with their young players and playing most of their games vs Houston, Seattle and Oakland they will be a great team. Angels got lots of money, also. He will be an Angel, plus CJ Wilson from Texas will be on the move. I think the young Angels have a better longterm future than the yanks, bourjous, trumbo, Trout are up and comers also. Plus, players like Scoscia. Girardi not so much.

[boulderterp]

If CC leaves the Yanks, they will find a way to pry Felix loose from the M's.

The GM from Seattle doesn't like Cashman.

[Agrippa]

Valentine looks like he's had alot of platic surgery

[mythoughts]

He's been pretty damn consistant with the Yankees !
3 seasons...at least 19 Wins...never lost 10...and his ERA is always low-3s ( so you can't say its because of their Hitters)
I'm sure if he's leaving its by his choice.....or some idiot !

[Agrippa]

He's been pretty damn consistant with the Yankees !
3 seasons...at least 19 Wins...never lost 10...and his ERA is always low-3s ( so you can't say its because of their Hitters)
I'm sure if he's leaving its by his choice.....or some idiot !

Can he be as effective in 3 years as he's been the last 3?

[bmore_ken]

That is more-or-less what people here said in the winter and the Yankees won 97 games.

It's what the people here have been saying every since I've been on the board. It's like a rite of passage, underestimate the Yankees every year and they go on to win 90+ games

[tjb13]

Stop that!

I did it just for you.

[RolePlayer]

I'd love to see him go "Downhill" in an Oriole uniform.

not me. he won't be worth the contract he has with NY, going forward. and he surely won't be worth that kind of deal in baltimore, and that really sums up the problem the orioles have acquiring FA talent...

aside from poor drafting and scouting, perhaps BECAUSE of poor drafting and scouting, the orioles are never in a position to acquire that one big arm or one big bat to put them over the top.

but the yankees, they can have a roster scattered with under-performing $20M salaries. not many other teams can. so it's a perpetual standoff unless and UNTIL the the orioles start producing their own talent, putting themselves in position to acquire a miguel caberra type bat or whatever. the "frustrated GMs" here who complain so vehemently about AM don't seem to get that. and i actually believe it doesn't matter who the orioles GM is, they'll just complain about whoever is there. they don't see the big picture on competing in the AL east.

here's the big picture: who and when was the last ellsbury or cano developed by the orioles franchise?

it's those kind of players that make the difference, not going crazy about falling short of signing MT, a guy who would NOT push the orioles over the top. that is not the big picture.

[dude]

It is rumored CC wants to go back home to California, plus add him to Weaver, Haren and that lineup with their first baseman back with their young players and playing most of their games vs Houston, Seattle and Oakland they will be a great team. Angels got lots of money, also. He will be an Angel, plus CJ Wilson from Texas will be on the move. I think the young Angels have a better longterm future than the yanks, bourjous, trumbo, Trout are up and comers also. Plus, players like Scoscia. Girardi not so much.

So in a case like that, the Orioles could act as a catalyst to help the Angels make the move.

No one likes to discuss anything a little complicated, but there could be interest around LAA, LAD, TEX and NYM that lead to a series of (indirectly related) moves.

The Orioles could wind up trading Jones and getting Wright and Hunter (3/24). There's more to this.

Better if something like that (plus other moves like Bay for Wells) allowed LAA to sign CC.

Go O's.