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    Quote Originally Posted by Saticon3 View Post
    Oh, but geographic features certainly are no obstacles when it comes to safeguarding an incumbent or tossing out a rival, now, are they?
    I know that odd little slice into Baltimore county of the Maryland-1....Wait that is where Andy Harris' house is. Be careful or you may find Harris and Roscoe in the same district!

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    Sun editorializes against current map.

    As for the fact that gerrymandering is the norm, there are signs that voters across the nation are getting fed up with it. Most notably, California instituted a new, nonpartisan redistricting commission in advance of this year's elections that has made them more competitive than at any time in a generation. Voting against Question 5 is the only clear way Maryland voters can signal to our elected leaders that we want that kind of change here.

    The most coherent argument against the new districts is a picture of the maps themselves. They twist, they turn, they snake along narrow corridors and, in some instances, hop across the water. The 3rd District, represented by Democrat John Sarbanes, is the most egregious, combining portions of Baltimore City and Anne Arundel, Baltimore, Howard and Montgomery counties in a way that a federal judge described as "reminiscent of a broken-winged pterodactyl" — an insult to pterodactyls, if anything. Democrat C.A. Dutch Ruppersberger's 2nd District, which manages to include Randallstown, Aberdeen and Ft. Meade, isn't much better.
    Wow! Good for the Sun.
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    I agree. Good for the Sun.

    I have noticed that there has been little (if any) advertising this issue and even the surveys don't seem to ask questions about the popularity of the issue.

    I really hope that the O'Malley map is struck down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by demopublican View Post
    I agree. Good for the Sun.

    I have noticed that there has been little (if any) advertising this issue and even the surveys don't seem to ask questions about the popularity of the issue.

    I really hope that the O'Malley map is struck down.
    Initially I was voting for since I precieved the push as simply republican whinning but I have since decided I will vote against.

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    the hell with the people ........

    the one party state takes care of its own .......

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    Party over people.

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    Yet the Sun still supports the Democrats on almost all the issues like illegal immigration and gay marriage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jtowne-swim View Post
    Initially I was voting for since I precieved the push as simply republican whinning but I have since decided I will vote against.
    Good for you.

    More than likely it will pass as if you read actual ballot question, it makes it sound it just affiriming congressional redistricting based on census.

    Another example of one party control at it best - favor wording on ballot questions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MDvet View Post
    Good for you.

    More than likely it will pass as if you read actual ballot question, it makes it sound it just affiriming congressional redistricting based on census.

    Another example of one party control at it best - favor wording on ballot questions.
    I read the actual ballot question, and I will be voting against it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sigmalady View Post
    I read the actual ballot question, and I will be voting against it.
    A vote against forced them to O'MalleyMander all over again. Right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by demopublican View Post
    A vote against forced them to O'MalleyMander all over again. Right?
    not neccessarily. Since they would have a whole two years to redistrict it and fix it we could pass the type of comittee franchot requests and then get a new plan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jtowne-swim View Post
    Initially I was voting for since I precieved the push as simply republican whinning but I have since decided I will vote against.
    See, that's the negative side of - I don't know how to put this--- partisanship, maybe, or deomonizing the other side, or maybe just not listening to the other side--- you shut yourself off from maybe the few good valid points they may have-- while I realize one can be so put off by the other side that you just never bother to consider them but instead automatically dismiss- regradless of which "side" you're on--- each has occasionally the valid point, issue, or stance that may be overlooked.

    There are plently of dems, to their credit, who are against this abomination, the Washington Post and entire Montgomery County delegation- now you can't get more demlib them Mont. County on this coast, anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bloomin Onion View Post
    Yet the Sun still supports the Democrats on almost all the issues like illegal immigration and gay marriage.
    Well, at least they got one right. Actually, I see valid, good arguments in favor of the others, but find the districting issue simply indefensible on any grounds. It has one clear purpose, and that is to eject Bratlett and give MD yet one more Dem seat. Guess they won't be happy until they get all 8.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saticon3 View Post
    See, that's the negative side of - I don't know how to put this--- partisanship, maybe, or deomonizing the other side, or maybe just not listening to the other side--- you shut yourself off from maybe the few good valid points they may have-- while I realize one can be so put off by the other side that you just never bother to consider them but instead automatically dismiss- regradless of which "side" you're on--- each has occasionally the valid point, issue, or stance that may be overlooked.

    There are plently of dems, to their credit, who are against this abomination, the Washington Post and entire Montgomery County delegation- now you can't get more demlib them Mont. County on this coast, anyway.
    That is a serious issue the MD GOP has. They complain about everything instead of actually trying to work with the system. It was not until I listened to people on here. Some Independent and some moderate republicans and began to think that this tie die swirl is not good. I think that the MD-1, MD-5 and MD-6? are pretty compact for the most part but the rest is a huge mess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saticon3 View Post
    Well, at least they got one right. Actually, I see valid, good arguments in favor of the others, but find the districting issue simply indefensible on any grounds. It has one clear purpose, and that is to eject Bratlett and give MD yet one more Dem seat. Guess they won't be happy until they get all 8.
    That I don't agree with. The people of Caroll and Harford county both expressed an interest of not being in three different districts which we were. I think carving out the 40 corridor is not good but you had to shift Roscoe somewhere and that was Montgomery county.

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    Default Vote No on 5 - ... a stain on the political process

    Commentary: Redistricting map is a stain on the political process

    October 26, 2012 at 1:43 am
    3rd Congressional District 2012 (Md. Planning Dept. map)

    3rd Congressional District 2012 (Md. Planning Dept. map)

    By Len Lazarick

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    While there are legitimate arguments on both sides of the other three ballot questions – expanded gambling, same-sex marriage, tuition breaks for immigrant children – all the arguments for Question 5 are blatantly bogus.

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    Screwing Republicans and minorities

    Typically, in any statewide race – for president, governor, comptroller, attorney general or U.S. Senate – even a little-known Republican will garner at least 35% of the vote. In the last three elections, eight statewide Republican candidates averaged over 40% of the vote. Yet, in the map Democrats drew, Republicans are designed to have just 12.5% of the members of Congress.

    ...


    http://marylandreporter.com/2012/10/...tical-process/

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    I am voting against it because Donna Edwards coulldn't find AA county with a map.

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