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    Quote Originally Posted by MooGoo View Post
    If it was so "right" then why aren't people allowed to do it in Muslim Countries?
    So we should also have the right to stone women for adultery like they do in Muslim countries? What a dumb argument

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    Quote Originally Posted by MooGoo View Post
    Not at all. I think prolly you know more gay couples than I do. In fact, I am certain of it.

    All of the ones I know are incredibly self-absorbed and spend way too much time in front of a mirror.
    How would you know how much time they spend in front of a mirror? I know many, many women who spend a lot of time in front of the mirror and care what they look like, yet they have kids and are married. Why do people bring up qualities they think are negative as if that's a reason to vote against gay marriage?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MooGoo View Post
    Nah. I want it on the ballot in November. Let the people of Maryland have their voices heard. Then, I will accept whatever outcome is decided.
    The people anywhere don't need to have their voices heard on issues of civil rights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bmoreteacher View Post
    My apologies, 1 out of the multiple examples I gave was decided by a vote in MD, which eventually became irrelevant because of Federal laws.
    Actually, more than one but your ego won't let you admit it. It really doesn't matter though. In this state the citizens have the right to bring issues to referendum and, like it or not, it may go to referendum. And I believe that the law will stand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sprightly View Post
    Actually, more than one but your ego won't let you admit it. It really doesn't matter though. In this state the citizens have the right to bring issues to referendum and, like it or not, it may go to referendum. And I believe that the law will stand.
    This has nothing to do with my ego, actually. What else did I miss? Citizens having the right to vote on something doesn't make it the right thing to do

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baltimatt View Post
    It certainly isn't against a homosexual's nature; it is his nature. Are you suggesting it is up to our legislature to determine what is right in the eyes of the lord [sic]?

    As far as the percentage of the population which is gay, so what? A small percentage of the population is left handed, too. And ???


    Most people are straight. That doesn't make homosexuality a wrong.
    It is against the laws of nature. You don't see homosexuality in animals in the wild. And of course, I don't want the Legislature decding one thing. Again, put it on the ballot and let the people decide.



    If it was so "right" as you claim, the percentage in the general population would be much higher. Dare I say, near 100% and the straight folks would be the smaller percentage?



    Put it on the ballot and let the people of Maryland decide.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bmoreteacher View Post
    The people anywhere don't need to have their voices heard on issues of civil rights.
    It is not a civil right. It is a special right for a small minority of the population.

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    No, it's not a special right. Same-sex marriage will be available to anyone regardless of sexual orientation.
    Dieser Weg wird kein leichter sein; dieser Weg wird steinig und schwer.
    Nicht mit vielen wirst du dir einig sein, doch dieses Leben bietet so viel mehr. --Xavier Naidoo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bmoreteacher View Post
    I know many, many women who spend a lot of time in front of the mirror and care what they look like, yet they have kids and are married. confused:
    The people I know are men. I rest my case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baltimatt View Post
    No, it's not a special right. Same-sex marriage will be available to anyone regardless of sexual orientation.
    You have yourself talking in circles. If you are heterosexual, then why would you need it?

    It is a special right given to a small percentage of the population of Maryland. AND you know it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MooGoo View Post
    It is not a civil right. It is a special right for a small minority of the population.
    If it is such a small minority why are you so scared of it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MooGoo View Post
    It is not a civil right. It is a special right for a small minority of the population.
    Equality isn't a special right.

    Homosexuality actually has been observed in many species of animals, so you're only showing how little you actually understand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmore_ken View Post
    So we should also have the right to stone women for adultery like they do in Muslim countries? What a dumb argument
    The dumb part was you not understanding what my point was. If the muslim countries are so heavily populated, or more to the point, if Islam has become the dominant religion in the world, and being gay is so "right" (and clearly not wrong) then, why isn't homosexuality more accepted in a larger population? wouldn't it figure that a larger population has more gays just due to overall numbers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MooGoo View Post
    You have yourself talking in circles. If you are heterosexual, then why would you need it?
    Duhhh. I see you are finally catching on.

    It is a special right given to a small percentage of the population of Maryland. AND you know it.
    No, legally it is not restricted to homosexuals. Everyone has the right to marry a man or a woman.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MooGoo View Post
    The people I know are men. I rest my case.
    OK, and I know straight men who take their time in front of a mirror. What's your point? I didn't realize people who took their time getting ready shouldn't be able to get married.

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    I think it's hilarious that either of you think that you're going to change MooGoo's point of view.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MooGoo View Post
    The dumb part was you not understanding what my point was. If the muslim countries are so heavily populated, or more to the point, if Islam has become the dominant religion in the world, and being gay is so "right" (and clearly not wrong) then, why isn't homosexuality more accepted in a larger population? wouldn't it figure that a larger population has more gays just due to overall numbers?
    That larger population of Muslims has extremely severe laws against homosexuality. You're not going to see too many gay clubs popping up if it means you're going to be hung in a public square. Your argument is imbecilic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sprightly View Post
    I think it's hilarious that either of you think that you're going to change MooGoo's point of view.
    I don't think I'm going to change it, I just think its fun to shoot holes through it.

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    Most people already know they are wrong on this and understand that what they really fear is the desires deep down in their bodies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bmoreteacher View Post
    Equality isn't a special right.

    Homosexuality actually has been observed in many species of animals, so you're only showing how little you actually understand.

    "observed" is a far cry from "right" or "normal" or whatever you are calling it. In fact, most of the observed behavior was seen in captured, caged, lab animals (read mice and rats). The point could be more easily be made that the behavior was exibited in the lab animals becasue they were in some way damaged by the fact that they were caged lab animals instead of wild (ie: natural).

    And BTW the other studies that observed this behavior were set up to see ewhat effect overcrowding had on a population. Homosexuality was just one of the "unnatural" behaviors that the rats exhibited due to the overcrowding.

    Put it on the ballot and let the majority of Marylanders decide.

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