Body of 13 year old girl found

[ybnormal]

This entire case is getting uglier by the minute, overshadowing the fact that the life of a 13-year old girl has needlessly been snuffed out yet all that some care about on here is how the police department can't be trusted. Wow. Life means nothing to some.

[Wizard777]

Obviously, I think the focus would still be on the cop, that happens to be a family relation to the admitted suspects.

The family has already aligned against the cop. He'll take the deserved fall.

In such a public case, planting the gun on a suspect would only magnify this fools stupidity. They know who fired the gun, so thats not a question.

The lawyers will write that off as coincidence. As a friend of the family of course he's going to work extra hard on the case. Wouldn't you? If you didn't what kind of a friend would you be? It's all about the spin.

[Wizard777]

Mayor 'disgusted' over police allegations in girl's death

Mayor Stephanie Rawlings-Blake on Wednesday called allegations that a police officer may have been involved in the aftermath of a fatal shooting of a 13-year-old girl "disgusting."

"As a mother, it's hard for me to describe what a tragedy this is," the mayor said, speaking after the weekly Board of Estimates meeting. "It's a tragedy made worse by allegations of police involvement. The thought of it is quite frankly disgusting."

Rawlings-Blake said she had spoken with relatives of Monae Turnage to give her sympathies. She declined to comment on the details of the case, but said she would not stand for wrongdoing by police.

No arguments here. This is something everyone in Baltimore and beyond will stand firmly behind the Mayor on.

[Lawman 27]

Mayor 'disgusted' over police allegations in girl's death


Mayor Stephanie Rawlings-Blake on Wednesday called allegations that a police officer may have been involved in the aftermath of a fatal shooting of a 13-year-old girl "disgusting."

"As a mother, it's hard for me to describe what a tragedy this is," the mayor said, speaking after the weekly Board of Estimates meeting. "It's a tragedy made worse by allegations of police involvement. The thought of it is quite frankly disgusting."

Rawlings-Blake said she had spoken with relatives of Monae Turnage to give her sympathies. She declined to comment on the details of the case, but said she would not stand for wrongdoing by police.


No arguments here. This is something everyone in Baltimore and beyond will stand firmly behind the Mayor on.

Wizard,

It is my honor to be able to (electronically) spar with you once more.

The Mayor said that "as a mother..."

Got news for you... As a PROUD DAD this kind of thing makes me quite ill too.

As a (former) City Lawman, this thing makes me want to retch. The Officer deserves his day in court, just as all citizens. Should he be found guilty, he deserves the worst punishment for tarnishing the reputation of the good Officers.

By the way...As long as the City's residents are happy with low quality Officers, they are going to have to live with their choices. (I am not saying that you have to pay alot of money for good Officers, but the department does have to raise its standards and treat its Officers with some respect if they want Officers who won't get press like this).

[QQng]

Chances, are very high that the monster who did this has multiple priors and was able to do this because of Baltimores revolving door judicial system. Maybe the Innocence Project got this creep an early out too.

well,,,monster true,,but 2 teens,,,12 and 13,,,and they knew her,,,AND an off-duty Baltimore City Police Officer could be involved somehow!! I think I know the "monster",,and of course,,,,our department keeps hiring the legal criminals!!

[QQng]

Wizard,

It is my honor to be able to (electronically) spar with you once more.

The Mayor said that "as a mother..."

Got news for you... As a PROUD DAD this kind of thing makes me quite ill too.

As a (former) City Lawman, this thing makes me want to retch. The Officer deserves his day in court, just as all citizens. Should he be found guilty, he deserves the worst punishment for tarnishing the reputation of the good Officers.

By the way...As long as the City's residents are happy with low quality Officers, they are going to have to live with their choices. (I am not saying that you have to pay alot of money for good Officers, but the department does have to raise its standards and treat its Officers with some respect if they want Officers who won't get press like this).

SOMEONE NEEDS TO RAISE THE STANDARDS!! The department doesn't do enough to screen these people they hire. Our department has been in the gutter for a long time. I know of 2 young men that were turned down,,,,wonder why? One of them my son! I have been disgusted by the hiring process for years! Sad to say, I have family that is still in law,,,and even they are ashamed.

[Wizard777]

Wizard,

It is my honor to be able to (electronically) spar with you once more.

The Mayor said that "as a mother..."

Got news for you... As a PROUD DAD this kind of thing makes me quite ill too.

As a (former) City Lawman, this thing makes me want to retch. The Officer deserves his day in court, just as all citizens. Should he be found guilty, he deserves the worst punishment for tarnishing the reputation of the good Officers.

By the way...As long as the City's residents are happy with low quality Officers, they are going to have to live with their choices. (I am not saying that you have to pay alot of money for good Officers, but the department does have to raise its standards and treat its Officers with some respect if they want Officers who won't get press like this).

Ah, my good Lawman. How have you been? As you can see I've been my usual cantankerous old self.

I will say that the evidence thus far doesn't look good at all. But you can't spar with me when I agree with you whole heartedly. Yes, he does deserve his day in court.......if Bernstein will give him a day in court. Right now that is my real concern. Berstein calling this another unfortunate mistake.

[QQng]

This entire case is getting uglier by the minute, overshadowing the fact that the life of a 13-year old girl has needlessly been snuffed out yet all that some care about on here is how the police department can't be trusted. Wow. Life means nothing to some.

yes it does get uglier. Very sad that this girl lost her life at the hands of friends w/gun! I'm sorry, but I believe they should be tried as adults! Wasn't like they don't have the knowledge that people with guns, kill!! They know exactly what they had in their hands. It makes it worse that a possibility of an officer involved somehow,,either lending them a hand in dragging this child's body and discarding it like trash! Wouldn't surprise me that the gun was snuffed by that cop and left in the house for these teens to get their hands on it! If this officer is found to have been involved in ANY way,,I would hold them all accountable AS ADULTS!! Rest peacefully to a beautiful angel, and prayers to her family!

[Baltimatt]

QQng--

I don't believe children that young can be tried as adults. This is a 13-year-old article, but I've seen the same ages given in one report of this case.

In 1994, Maryland lawmakers voted to require police to charge minors 16 and older as adults when they are arrested for any of a long list of crimes, including armed robbery, possession of a handgun and various forms of assault. The state already required police to treat youths 14 and older charged with first-degree murder and rape as adults.

[buzzthefuzz]

johnsensback--

They called police at 1 a.m. Maybe they became alarmed before then and were trying to contact her or the people she was with. There's a lot of detail we don't know.

There may a lot of detail that we really don't want to know, because knowing that detail might require a response that might be troubling.

[Wizard777]

QQng--

I don't believe children that young can be tried as adults. This is a 13-year-old article, but I've seen the same ages given in one report of this case.

Do a search on "13 year old tried as an adult." There are states that are trying kids a young as 11 y/o as adults.

[Baltimatt]

Wiz--

This case will be tried under Maryland law. Maybe some states try children that young as adults, but we don't.

[Sprightly]

I've seen that the police officer's name has been list as John Ward but why won't the police and/or mayor verify or deny it? What makes him any different than any other suspect whose names are provided?

[prepfan]

I've seen that the police officer's name has been list as John Ward but why won't the police and/or mayor verify or deny it? What makes him any different than any other suspect whose names are provided?

Is he a suspect (like "any other suspect") ?

[ybnormal]

Wiz--

This case will be tried under Maryland law. Maybe some states try children that young as adults, but we don't.

Then 'WE' need to adapt to the latest trend of "youths" committing more and more crimes in this area, including but not limited to murder, rape, assault, robbery, riding dirt bikes illegally in the city, distribution of narcotics, etc. 11 seems about right.

[Sprightly]

Is he a suspect (like "any other suspect") ?

Yes, I believe he is. If the names of men busted for allegedly soliciting a prostitute can be released, surely the name of the suspect involved in a murder of child should be released.

[ybnormal]

From FoxNews:

"Sources say the Officer is 32-year-old John Ward of the Eastern district.

Sources say he advised the teens on how to cover up the crime and the gun that killed Monae was found in Ward's car.

Lower the standards for LEOs, or for any employee staffing, and this is what you can expect. I agree with SRB, DISGUSTING [behavior].

[Wizard777]

Wiz--

This case will be tried under Maryland law. Maybe some states try children that young as adults, but we don't.

I was just putting it out there. I was kind of shocked by the results of the search. Those were first degree murders where there was intent. If this was an accidental shooting. Then I don't have a problem with them being tried as Juveniles for manslaughter. If there was intent. I might have a problem with them being tried as juveniles.

[Cetshwayo]

Is everyone crazy? An accidental shooting isn't a crime. The cop did what he's been trained to do and followed orders, the mayors orders. Mitchum said yesterday that the police follow the orders of the mayor. Obama, oMalley and the lady mayor all break the law by not enforcing illegal immigration law and encouraging illegal behavior which is treason so the cop, if he did anything wrong, he was just following his president, governor and mayor, all democrats by the way. They set the example and now they complain that rules aren't being followed. No wonder the police dept is a wreck with such political leadership from the top setting the example of how not to follow rules, just break them, we do!

[sigmalady]

Is everyone crazy? An accidental shooting isn't a crime. The cop did what he's been trained to do and followed orders, the mayors orders. Mitchum said yesterday that the police follow the orders of the mayor. Obama, oMalley and the lady mayor all break the law by not enforcing illegal immigration law and encouraging illegal behavior which is treason so the cop, if he did anything wrong, he was just following his president, governor and mayor, all democrats by the way. They set the example and now they complain that rules aren't being followed. No wonder the police dept is a wreck with such political leadership from the top setting the example of how not to follow rules, just break them, we do!

First, we don't know that it really was accidental. Second, didn't you learn as a young child that two wrongs don't make a right. You're beginning to rival beta for nonsensical postings.