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    "...he also says voter fraud is almost nonexistent."

    That's it in a nutshell. These fringe groups have an axe to grind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jtowne-swim View Post
    See the article. It covers that. I am simply saying every 2 or 4 years they should allow the BOE to actually have the money to conduct a good search and follow up the leads. That is the problem. If the watch groups actually made a real attempt to contact the individual, like visit the home. Than I would be for it. This is what the problem is. The group is citing a person, who is not dead a year yet, as a huge problem. While if dead they should be removed from the roles this is not an example of fraud. It would be fraud if someone else votes for them. That has not happened. What if the person is alive and votes and this group pitched a fit because a clerical error like a DOB entered slightly wrong like 6/6/77 instead of 6/6/78. The voter here is not at fault and not the enemy. I am not against cleaning roles but it should be done at state expense by the government and by people with a set standard of proof requiring some confirmation of the voters death or move. That takes time and money so in this case throwing money at the problem would help.
    The State needs to decide that it is important enough to throw money at it. Obviously it does not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sprightly View Post
    The State needs to decide that it is important enough to throw money at it. Obviously it does not.
    Since voter roles are maintained by the local governments in this state they should. Note that it has taken this long for the Army of volunteers to comb through Montgomery county alone and they still do not feel their work is done yet.

    This leads to the two fold problem I have. One why did they pick Montgomery County first? What county will be next, and what about counties in which most of it's elderly go out of county to die because of a lack of geriatric facilities.

    If they really want to volunteer to fix the problem they should perhaps find the level of information required to correct the error or remove the registration. To say these are fraudulent registrations or adds up to voter fraud is a clear distortion of the facts. Dieing is a natural act not voter fraud!

    In all seriousness when a person gets the death certificate of a loved one to execute the estate perhaps on the checklist of things to do from the state could be call the local Board of elections to get their name removed.

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    I was going to call it thinly veiled racism but in reality it's not even thinly veiled.

    http://www.colorlines.com/archives/2...r_id_card.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mitchum View Post
    It looks like the Tea Party is behind the latest campaign to disenfranchise Democratic voters in Maryland.
    That's exactly what this is about. Funny, these tea-partyers claims to be for the constitution and the founding father's intent...... But yet, the founding fathers didn't require any ID to vote in elections, nor did the founding fathers have any term limits.

    Thank goodness for the US justice department blocking these racist laws in the south.

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    Remember when they pretended they were the in favor of less Government regulations?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gps29070 View Post
    That's exactly what this is about. Funny, these tea-partyers claims to be for the constitution and the founding father's intent...... But yet, the founding fathers didn't require any ID to vote in elections, nor did the founding fathers have any term limits.

    Thank goodness for the US justice department blocking these racist laws in the south.
    Why is it racist to ask for identification? Is is really just in the south?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mitchum View Post
    Remember when they pretended they were the in favor of less Government regulations?
    Govt has a few very basic and important functions. Two important roles are securing the border and holding fair and accurate elections.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crabsnbeer View Post
    Why is it racist to ask for identification? Is is really just in the south?
    No, Crabs, it's everywhere. If you're white, you're racist.

    Deal with it.

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    Why isn't this a bipartisan issue? Those that are passionate about voting, will get an ID before the election. These are good citizens.

    Those who want to vote on behalf of dead people or who want to vote multiple times for cash will cry "woe is me." These are bad citizens.

    Those few who have a legitimate hardship should seek assistance now. There's plenty of time.

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    I agree that democratic control of this state has resulted in extreme benefits to all residents, taxpayers and new americans. Now they have to double gas taxes and double toll taxes and double car registration taxes and raise income taxes, as if any of us have any, raise hunting and fishing licenses, boat taxes, what did I forget? Please don't do anything to endanger the democrats voracious appetite to raise your taxes, raise your taxes, raise your taxes.

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    Demockery in action. The first 4 minutes say it all (rest is redundant):

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLSjL--qvsw

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omaha Beach View Post
    So making sure that the people who try to vote are legally entitled to do so is, now voter supression.?? Who knew? Dont people like Mitchum ever get tired of sounding like a jackass?
    If his words are in a post, you can bet he's lying. He's been caught so many times it's not even worth replying to his lies.

    It's a rarity if you can find any truth in any of his posts.

    Lies, lies, lies. SOP for Mitchum, he has nothing left.

    Quote Originally Posted by crabsnbeer View Post
    Why is it racist to ask for identification? Is is really just in the south?
    Because we all hate Obama because he is black, and it's Bush' fault - normal DailyKos-issued talking points response.

    Just pull the string in his back. The lies will shortly follow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saticon3 View Post
    good luck to them at disenfranchising 2/3 of the voters in this fine state.
    How come they require id to get Human Resource bennies such as food stamps, WIC, TCA, and all that? Doesn't that discriminate against poor people?
    Anyone getting any taxpayer bennies should be required to show and I.D. and no I.D. then no bennies. People can get State Issued I.D. Cards for just about nothing. The Tea Party is NOT Disentrancing anyone in Maryland. Maryland's continued love affair with the likes of O'Malley, Miller & Busch and the rest of the TAX & SPEND DEMOCRATS had made Maryland one of the top 5 (soon to be top 2) taxed States in the U.S. The only way to keep people & businesses in Maryland is to get rid of the Democrats and run the State like a Business and not as a Free for All.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mitchum View Post
    It looks like the Tea Party is behind the latest campaign to disenfranchise Democratic voters in Maryland.

    http://www.npr.org/2012/03/13/148518...1&f=1014&sc=tw
    I read the story and didn't come to that conclusion

    "But critics say these efforts are far from nonpartisan. They note that True the Vote is aligned with conservatives and Republicans who are behind a wave of new voter ID laws, which opponents say will block some legitimate voters from the ballot box."

    so who are the opponents "alleging" a wave of new voter ID laws will block some legitimate voters from the ballot box? The SEIU, CASA, OCCUPY MOVEMENT?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gps29070 View Post
    That's exactly what this is about. Funny, these tea-partyers claims to be for the constitution and the founding father's intent...... But yet, the founding fathers didn't require any ID to vote in elections, nor did the founding fathers have any term limits.

    Thank goodness for the US justice department blocking these racist laws in the south.
    No, the founding fathers correctly intended for only property owners to vote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crabsnbeer View Post
    Why is it racist to ask for identification? Is is really just in the south?
    not racist but difficult for some who can not afford a state issued ID. Like the vetran in Ohio who had an expired drivers liscence which they would not accept nor his vetran card because it is not issued by Ohio!

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    Which state is it that recently offered completely free identification for those without it, and for the elderly or infirmed, offered home visits?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just Pondering View Post
    Why isn't this a bipartisan issue? Those that are passionate about voting, will get an ID before the election. These are good citizens.

    Those who want to vote on behalf of dead people or who want to vote multiple times for cash will cry "woe is me." These are bad citizens.

    Those few who have a legitimate hardship should seek assistance now. There's plenty of time.
    Some don't know they have a hardship until they get to the poll. If you don't take a Military ID, which some states don't than you create a hardship for people who otherwise don't additionally the MVA will need to subsidize ID's for the poor!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TFinan View Post
    Anyone getting any taxpayer bennies should be required to show and I.D. and no I.D. then no bennies. People can get State Issued I.D. Cards for just about nothing. The Tea Party is NOT Disentrancing anyone in Maryland. Maryland's continued love affair with the likes of O'Malley, Miller & Busch and the rest of the TAX & SPEND DEMOCRATS had made Maryland one of the top 5 (soon to be top 2) taxed States in the U.S. The only way to keep people & businesses in Maryland is to get rid of the Democrats and run the State like a Business and not as a Free for All.
    For some people $30 is not easy

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