Voter fraud exposed......easy in Vermont!

[Phineas Finn]

How many fraudulent votes are acceptable to you?

1? 20? 1,000?

Preventive measures are fine with me. We can't stop the fraud in the past, but we cancertainly prevent it in the future.

That's just the point -- these restrictions can and will stop legitimate voters from being able to cast their ballot. Why should an 80-year-old woman who's getting a ride to the polls have to go back and get anything at all -- she is an American citizen and has a right to vote. The fact is that there is no evidence of significant vote fraud, so why are these restrictions necessary if not to inconvience specific populations.

We could eliminate forgery and check fraud if we required a DNA test at the bank, but would we want to?

[Phineas Finn]

Mr Magoo can get one of these

Photo ID Card – New
$15.00
http://www.mva.maryland.gov/About-MV...riverLicensing

That's not the point, why should he have to?

Seventy-five years ago in Alabama they could have said, "All Mr. Magoo has to do is learn to read better and study his history."

[NCBirdfan]

That's just the point -- these restrictions can and will stop legitimate voters from being able to cast their ballot. Why should an 80-year-old woman who's getting a ride to the polls have to go back and get anything at all -- she is an American citizen and has a right to vote. The fact is that there is no evidence of significant vote fraud, so why are these restrictions necessary if not to inconvience specific populations.

We could eliminate forgery and check fraud if we required a DNA test at the bank, but would we want to?

When I was in Savannah, Georgia and had to cash a check at the Bank of America there, they made me put my thumb print on the check. Talk about creepy. If I knew the check would still be good when I went home (I got it from one of those time shares places), I wouldn't have done it. And because of my experience there I will never open an account with BOA.

[karlydee]

When I was in Savannah, Georgia and had to cash a check at the Bank of America there, they made me put my thumb print on the check. Talk about creepy. If I knew the check would still be good when I went home (I got it from one of those time shares places), I wouldn't have done it. And because of my experience there I will never open an account with BOA.

It's common practice for many banks to require a thumbprint for non-account holders cashing checks.

[NCBirdfan]

It's common practice for many banks to require a thumbprint for non-account holders cashing checks.

I don't usually do business outside of my personal bank. And I don't like it. If all banks did it I'd have to start putting my money under my mattress. The interest rates aren't that good anyway...but I digress.

[banner1124]

I want to tour various Govt buildings, drive a car, fly on a commercial airliner, travel to Sweden. I also want to cash my Govt welfare check, purchase a firearm, and go on the Disney Cruise.

Not without a proper ID. Which this person did not have.

None of that stuff is fundamental to the existence of our democratic repuliblic.

[bmore_ken]

That's not the point, why should he have to?

Seventy-five years ago in Alabama they could have said, "All Mr. Magoo has to do is learn to read better and study his history."

Apples and oranges. I can get a photo ID in 15 minutes, you can't teach an illiterate person to read in 15 minutes. That dog still won't hunt

[Phineas Finn]

Apples and oranges. I can get a photo ID in 15 minutes, you can't teach an illiterate person to read in 15 minutes. That dog still won't hunt

You just won't understand. How distanced are you from the way the poor, the working poor, and the low-income elderly really live?

[dsummoner]

If they can drum up an ID to purchase Boone's Farm and Mad Dog 20/20 then they can drum up an ID to vote.

[bmore_ken]

If they can drum up an ID to purchase Boone's Farm and Mad Dog 20/20 then they can drum up an ID to vote.

not to mention weed, meth, and pills

[bmore_ken]

You just won't understand. How distanced are you from the way the poor, the working poor, and the low-income elderly really live?

My mom was working poor and she had ID

[NCBirdfan]

My mom was working poor and she had ID

Good for your mother.

[NCBirdfan]

If they can drum up an ID to purchase Boone's Farm and Mad Dog 20/20 then they can drum up an ID to vote.

So every voter that doesn't have an ID is an alcoholic?

[banner1124]

So every voter that doesn't have an ID is an alcoholic?

Don't forget we're mostly talking about poor people. As far as dsummoner is concerned they are worse than alcoholics

[dsummoner]

So every voter that doesn't have an ID is an alcoholic?

Who said anything about being an alcoholic?

Ya' needs to deprogram ya'rself from that 'use is abuse' gub'met nonsense.

[dsummoner]

Don't forget we're mostly talking about poor people. As far as dsummoner is concerned they are worse than alcoholics

If they are on the dole or voting to themselves the funds of others... they are the worst form of semi-sentient atrocity that nature has created or ever could create.

[NCBirdfan]

Don't forget we're mostly talking about poor people. As far as dsummoner is concerned they are worse than alcoholics

I think he has made several comments about exterminating them (or something like that) - perhaps he can reiterate his position on the poor.

[dsummoner]

I think he has made several comments about exterminating them (or something like that) - perhaps he can reiterate his position on the poor.

If 'man' is the cause of global climate change, then the poor on the dole need to go.

[grggngll]

You just won't understand. How distanced are you from the way the poor, the working poor, and the low-income elderly really live?

We agree but it is not us keeping the poor poor. That is all at the feet of Democrats and liberals, full of good intention, but lacking foresight.

[cprenegade]

None of that stuff is fundamental to the existence of our democratic repuliblic.

Which makes voting more important than all of that stuff. Just because something has never happened does not mean it is not important to use technological advances to insure that it doesn't. I still cannot believe that anyone who wants to vote will be unable to get a voter id card. Everyone who is legally able to vote is registered in a database right now. Once voter id cards are required, they will be registered in a newer database. It would be a very easy task to cross reference the databases, and get a list of those who were registered before and did not get a voter id card. Both the DNC and RNC would no doubt actively follow up on this list.