Condo association tells jew to remove mezuzah

[betamanlet]

http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/20...jewish-mezuzah

[bullmikey]

From the link:

Susan Reid, who lives across the hall from Cadranel, has an Easter display on her door. She is in favor of the board's decision for Cadranel to remove the mezuzah.

"Everybody has different religions and if we all start to put things (up), it looks unsightly," Reid said.

You gotta love these ****ing Nimrods. I would never invest in property that I did not have full say about. I would never willingly buy a condo (a glorified apartment that costs as much or more than a house) or put mysef under the thumb of one of these Associations. Too many little Hitlers and Stalins on those committies.

[CajunRaven]

From the link:



You gotta love these ****ing Nimrods. I would never invest in property that I did not have full say about. I would never willingly buy a condo (a glorified apartment that costs as much or more than a house) or put mysef under the thumb of one of these Associations. Too many little Hitlers and Stalins on those committies.

Used to live in a townhouse neighborhood that had an HOA. We used to call the board the tin pot dictators. What a bunch of OCD anal whining weasels.

Never again.

[Baltimatt]

Most mezuzahs I've seen are are the doorposts, not the doors. They are very unobtrusive. Let the woman keep her mezuzah.

[AttackPlanR]

I'm with Mikey on this one. I've turned down condos because I couldn't put up a bird feeder. Rules is rules, and she should have been aware of them before signing the contract.

[Fang]

I would have no issue with a mezuzah on the doorpost. But I don't live in a condo. Rules are rules and she should have been aware of them before she bought. Unless they changed the rules after she bought.

[karlydee]

I would have no issue with a mezuzah on the doorpost. But I don't live in a condo. Rules are rules and she should have been aware of them before she bought. Unless they changed the rules after she bought.

If the Covenant(s) she agreed to upon close of purchase provide(s) for an Association Board with rule making powers, it does not matter if they changed the rule after she bought the Condo .

Caveat Emptor.

[CajunRaven]

If the Covenant(s) she agreed to upon close of purchase provide(s) for an Association Board with rule making powers, it does not matter if they changed the rule after she bought the Condo .

Caveat Emptor.

That's it. Her only recourse is get like minded residents together and run for the board. Then they can make the rules.

[jrob]

She should leave it, and not pay any stupid fines. All kinds of discrimination have been backed up by law in various times and places, and she's right to fight it.

Obviously, it's not an eyesore, and doesn't adversely affect the image or property values of others.

[kandace]

The pettiness of the contemporary American middle class is oft times amazing to behold.

[Baltimatt]

WKDWZD--

According to Wikipedia, mezuzah literally means doorpost, and Jews are instructed to place the Schema on their doorposts.

[WKDWZD]

Because Mezuzot go on the door post, not the door.
So judenrein neighborhoods are okay so long as a private HOA does it? Seems to me racially restrictive covenenants are unenforceable, but this is?

It's saying that jews cannot live there.

WKDWZD--

According to Wikipedia, mezuzah literally means doorpost, and Jews are instructed to place the Schema on their doorposts.

Ok, then option 2 (move) would be her best choice. I suggest that she moves to a place that doesn't have an HOA.

[Gopher]

The Justice Department has already expressed a very strong opinion on this.

The Civil Rights Division's Housing and Civil Enforcement Section enforces the Fair Housing Act, which prohibits housing discrimination on the basis of race, color, religion, sex, national origin, disability, or familial status. These housing protections apply to discrimination in the sale or rental of housing, and also apply to the "terms and conditions" of the sale or rental of housing. Thus, if people are permitted to put decorations on their apartment doors, religious individuals should be able to put religious items or decorations on their doors, such as a Jewish mezuzah or a cross.

In the end, the HOA will lose.

http://www.justice.gov/crt/spec_topi...ff_housing.php

[karlydee]

The Justice Department has already expressed a very strong opinion on this.



In the end, the HOA will lose.

http://www.justice.gov/crt/spec_topi...ff_housing.php

As long as the rule banning imagery and icons is enacted neutrally with respect to association owned property. And there is no actions taken specifically against and because of 1 particular religion, the Association will WIN.

The case Jrob cited clearly states that absent explicit showing of discriminatory intent against specific religion(s), a neutrally enforced ban on religious icons would have been legal.

[regularguy]

When you buy a house or condo in a development that has strict covenants, you'd better read the fine print before signing on the dotted line.

My (rather old) neighborhood has suggested rules, but none are enforceable.

[Passerine]

As long as the rule banning imagery and icons is enacted neutrally with respect to association owned property. And there is no actions taken specifically against and because of 1 particular religion, the Association will WIN.

The case Jrob cited clearly states that absent explicit showing of discriminatory intent against specific religion(s), a neutrally enforced ban on religious icons would have been legal.

Problem is the article states:

The fact that the mezuzah is on the doorpost, and not the door, means it is in a common area, something that is against condo association rules, according to Reid.

Video from inside the complex showed several common areas adorned with Easter eggs and other Easter decorations.

So yes, it's selective enforcement.

[Wes]

This is totally totally ridiculous. Let the woman keep her mezuzah. It not an eyesore and she probably is a good neighbor. Damn” wanna be in charge of everybody” schnooks of that particular board need to get an life. I know about folks like that. I have then in my community as well. I almost got in a fight with the self appointed block “captain” of my neighbor hood. But I realized that if I popped him no one would be bailing me out of jail.

[banner1124]

This is the reason that I will never, eeeeeever own a property where there's an HOA... NEVER.

[Diego]

I wonder if the first person to hang a Bendera outside their door will be instructed to take it down

Anyone who lives where there is an HOA is an idiot

[Fang]

I wonder if the first person to hang a Bendera outside their door will be instructed to take it down

Anyone who lives where there is an HOA is an idiot

Calling everyone who lives with HOAs an idiot is ridiculous. Not every HOA is bad.

I like having an HOA. My previous neighborhood did not have an HOA and some people left trash in their yard. One guy had a toilet seat sitting in his front year for over a year. A few people parked boats on their front yard. One guy tore down his deck and left the rotting wood there for months. Then there was the guy that parked his construction equipment on the street.

There was not a darn thing anyone could do about all of this. So I sold, moved into a new home with an HOA and it's been great ever since. The value of my home has maintained and the neighborhood looks great.

One bit of good news. I did sell my old house at a nice profit right before the housing crash. But still, some neighbors can be real idiots if not for an HOA.