92 Card, Dunbar is trying to get you guy's when they think you are down on talent. What's the assessment?
Most interesting scheduling I have come across is Prep playing Anacostia, a consistently weak DC public school program. I can't say for certain, but if this game is an indication, prep will go from playing in the best conference state to keeping historical rivalries with Landon and Gonzaga and playing a bunch of weak DC-area non-WCAC schools.
Anacostia is coached by former NFL LB Cato June.
Joppatowne:
Week 1 (8/31)- Harford Tech
Week 2 (9/7)- North East
Week 3 (9/14)- Edgewood
Week 4 (9/21)- @ Aberdeen
Week 5 (9/28)- @ Bel Air
Week 6 (10/5)- Havre de Grace
Week 7 (10/12)- @ C. Milton Wright
Week 8 (10/18)- Fallston
Week 9 (10/26)- @ Owings Mills
Week 10 (11/2)- @ North Harford
North Harford:
Week 1 (8/31)- Hereford
Week 2 (9/7)- @ Rising Sun
Week 3 (9/14)- @ St. Paul's
Week 4 (9/21)- Friendly
Week 5 (9/28)- Aberdeen
Week 6 (10/5)- @ Bel Air
Week 7 (10/12)- @ Havre de Grace
Week 8 (10/18)- C. Milton Wright
Week 9 (10/26)- @ Fallston
Week 10 (11/2)- Joppatowne
C. Milton Wright:
Week 1 (8/31)- Rising Sun
Week 2 (9/7)- Patterson Mill
Week 3 (9/14)- @ North East
Week 4 (9/21)-Havre de Grace
Week 5 (9/28)- Overlea
Week 6 (10/5)- @ Fallston
Week 7 (10/12)- Joppatowne
Week 8 (10/18)- @ North Harford
Week 9 (10/26)- @ Aberdeen
Week 10 (11/2)- Bel Air
Aberdeen:
Week 1 (8/31)- @ Edgewood
Week 2 (9/7)- @ Perryville
Week 3 (9/14)- @ Elkton
Week 4 (9/21)- Joppatowne
Week 5 (9/28)- @ North Harford
Week 6 (10/5)- @ McDonough
Week 7 (10/12)- Bel Air
Week 8 (10/18)- @ Havre de Grace
Week 9 (10/26)- C. Milton Wright
Week 10 (11/2)- Fallston
Bel Air:
Week 1 (8/31)- @ National Academy Foundation
Week 2 (9/7)- Elkton
Week 3 (9/14)- @ Patterson Mill
Week 4 (9/21)- @ Fallston
Week 5 (9/28)- Joppatowne
Week 6 (10/5)- North Harford
Week 7 (10/12)- @ Aberdeen
Week 8 (10/18)- New Town
Week 9 (10/26)- Havre de Grace
Week 10 (11/2)- @ C. Milton Wright
Fallston:
Week 1 (8/31)- @ North East
Week 2 (9/7)- Edgewood
Week 3 (9/14)- Rising Sun
Week 4 (9/21)- Bell Air
Week 5 (9/28)- @ Havre de Grace
Week 6 (10/5)- C. Milton Wright
Week 7 (10/12)- @ Lansdowne
Week 8 (10/18)- @ Joppatowne
Week 9 (10/26)- North Harford
Week 10 (11/2)- @ Aberdeen
Havre de Grace:
Week 1 (8/31)- @ Elkton
Week 2 (9/7)- Bohmeia Manor
Week 3 (9/14)- @ Perryville
Week 4 (9/21)- C. Milton Wright
Week 5 (9/28)- Fallston
Week 6 (10/5)- @ Joppatowne
Week 7 (10/12)- North Harford
Week 8 (10/18)- Aberdeen
Week 9 (10/26)- @ Bel Air
Week 10 (11/2)- Overlea
Last edited by eaglesinsider; 07-10-2012 at 10:10 PM. Reason: added games
Harford Tech:
Week 1 (8/31)- @ Joppatowne
Week 2 (9/7)- @ Tower Hill (DE)
Week 3 (9/14)- Friends School
Week 4 (9/21)- Bohemia Manor
Week 5 (9/28)- Edgewood
Week 6 (10/5)- @ Patterson Mill
Week 7 (10/12)- North East
Week 8 (10/19)- @ Rising Sun
Week 9 (10/26)- @ Elkton
Week 10 (11/2)- Perryville
Bohemia Manor:
Week 1 (9/1)- @ John Carroll
Week 2 (9/7)- @ Havre de Grave
Week 3-
Week 4 (9/21)- @ Harford Tech
Week 5 (9/28)- Patterson Mill
Week 6 (10/5)- @ North East
Week 7 (10/12)- Elkton
Week 8 (10/18)- Rising Sun
Week 9 (10/26)- @ Perryville
Week 10 (11/2)- Edgewood
Edgewood:
Week 1 (8/31)- Aberdeen
Week 2 (9/7)- @ Fallston
Week 3 (9/14)- @ Joppatowne
Week 4 (9/21)- Elkton
Week 5 (9/28)- @ Harford Tech
Week 6 (10/5)- Rising Sun
Week 7-
Week 8 (10/18)- Perryville
Week 9 (10/26)- @ North East
Week 10 (11/2)- @ Bohemia Manor
North East:
Week 1 (8/31)- Fallston
Week 2 (9/7)- @ Joppatowne
Week 3 (9/14)- C. Milton Wright
Week 4 (9/21)- @ Rising Sun
Week 5 (9/28)- @ Perryville
Week 6 (10/5)- Bohemia Manor
Week 7 (10/12)- @ Harford Tech
Week 8 (10/18)- Patterson Mill
Week 9 (10/26)- Edgewood
Week 10 (11/2)- @ Elkton
Patterson Mill:
Week 1 (9/1)- @ Chesapeake
Week 2 (9/7)- @ C. Milton Wright
Week 3 (9/14)- Bel Air
Week 4-
Week 5 (9/28)- @ Bohemia Manor
Week 6 (10/5)- Harford Tech
Week 7-
Week 8 (10/18)- @ North East
Week 9-
Week 10 (11/2)- @ Rising Sun
Perryville:
Week 1-
Week 2 (9/7)- Aberdeen
Week 3 (9/14)- Havre de Grace
Week 4-
Week 5 (9/28)- North East
Week 6 (10/5)- Elkton
Week 7 (10/12)- @ Rising Sun
Week 8 (10/18)- @ Edgewood
Week 9 (10/26)- Bohemia Manor
Week 10 (11/2)- @ Harford Tech
Rising Sun:
Week 1 (8/31)- @ C. Milton Wright
Week 2 (9/7)- North Harford
Week 3 (9/14)- @ Fallston
Week 4 (9/21)- North East
Week 5 (9/28)- @ Elkton
Week 6 (10/5)- @ Edgewood
Week 7 (10/12)- Perryville
Week 8 (10/19)- Harford Tech
Week 9-
Week 10 (11/2)- Patterson Mill
Elkton:
Week 1 (8/31)- Havre de Grace
Week 2 (9/7)- @ Bel Air
Week 3 (9/14)- Aberdeen
Week 4 (9/21)- @ Edgewood
Week 5 (9/28)- Rising Sun
Week 6 (10/5)- @ Perryville
Week 7 (10/12)- @ Bohemia Manor
Week 8-
Week 9 (10/26)- Harford Tech
Week 10 (11/2)- North East
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IAC:
Bullis School:
Week 1 (8/31)- @ Saint Mary's Ryken
Week 2 (9/8)- @ Bishop Ireton (VA)
Week 3 (9/14)- Saint Mary's
Week 4 (9/21)- Avalon School
Week 5-
Week 6 (10/6)- Bishop McNamara
Week 7-
Week 8 (10/20)- @ St. Albans (DC)
Week 9 (10/27)- Landon School
Week 10 (11/2)-Episcopal
Week 11 (11/9)- Georgetown Prep
Landon School:
Week 1 (8/31)- Bishop McNamara
Week 2 (9/8)- vs. Annapolis Area Christian School (Patriot Classic @ USNA)
Week 3 (9/15)- @ Mount Saint Joseph's
Week 4-
Week 5-
Week 6 (10/5)- @ Episcopal
Week 7-
Week 8-
Week 9 (10/27)- @ Bullis School
Week 10 (11/3)- @ Georgetown Prep
Week 11 (11/10)- St. Albans (DC)
WCAC:
Good Counsel:
Week 0 (8/24)- @ Bishop Gorman (NV)
Week 1 (8/31)- vs. Gilman (I-95 Classic @ TBA)
Week 2 (9/8)- vs. St. Joseph's Regional (NJ) (Patriot Classic @ USNA)
Week 3 (9/14)- Woodson (DC)
Week 4 (9/22)- @ Gonzaga (DC)
Week 5- BYE
Week 6- (10/5)- DeMatha
Week 7 (10/12)- Bishop McNamara
Week 8 (10/20)- @ Saint John's (DC)
Week 9 (10/27)- Bishop O'Connell
Week 10 (11/3)- @ Archbishop Carroll (DC)
Bishop McNamara:
Week 0 (8/25)- @ Mount Saint Joseph
Week 1 (8/31)- @ Landon School
Week 2 (9/8)- @ Georgetown Prep
Week 3-
Week 4-
Week 5-
Week 6 (10/6)- @ Bullis
Week 7 (10/12)- @ Good Counsel
Week 8 (10/20)- @ Bishop O'Connell (VA)
Week 9 (10/27)- Archbishop Carroll (DC)
Week 10 (11/2)- vs. Dematha (@ PG Sports & Learning Complex)
DeMatha:
Week 1 (8/31)- @ Hillside (NC)
Week 2 (9/7)- vs. Calvert Hall (Patriot Classic @ USNA)
Week 3 (9/14)- vs. Loyola-Blakefield (@ PG Sports & Learning Complex)
Week 4 (9/21)- vs. Dunbar (DC) (@ PG Sports & Learning Complex)
Week 5 (9/29)- @ Bishop O'Connell (VA)
Week 6- (10/5)- @ Good Counsel
Week 7 (10/13)- vs. St. John's (DC) (@ PG Sports & Learning Complez)
Week 8 (10/19)- vs. Archbishop Carroll (DC) (@ PG Sports & Learning Complex)
Week 9 (10/27)- @ Gonzaga
Week 10 (11/2)- vs. Bishop McNamara (@ PG Sports & Learning Complex)
Last edited by eaglesinsider; 07-06-2012 at 09:41 PM. Reason: added games
Well, that's one way to put it. LOL. A few things that have transpired in the past few years had me thinking the same thing, but there is no way to know for sure unless you know them well enough to have a candid conversation with their coaches. CHC will definitely be down on varsity experience, especially early in the season. However, the talent, albeit young, is there. They have won 4 out of the last 5 MIAA A JV Championships. I know some might take my next statement the wrong way, and it does not apply exclusively to Dunbar. I don't think this Dunbar offense has ever had to match wits with the likes of Ed Holshue. He is one of the best D Coordinators around and possibly the best in the state when it comes to halftime adjustments. I also think the offense will put up points in this game if they open up the playbook. How quickly the young players fill the huge holes left by the 25+ graduating seniors is the million dollar question.
The word is a few Dunbar coaches are still harboring some bad feelings that stem from a 4 star player applying to CHC this time two years ago. Funny thing is the 4 players that went the other way in '09 was no big deal. Well, it actually made CHC a better "team" that year.
Even though neither side will admit it, I don't think there's a lot of love lost on either sidelines for each other. There's always been a unspoken rivalry between Dunbar and CHC. I think it goes back to the golden years of the basketball era and each school thinking they had the best teams. I expect this to be hotly contested and definitely hope I can make the game.
It's incredibly hard to get kids to come even if you are recruiting hard when your not in a league. Only playing 10 games with no shot at a championship isn't very appealing.
I heard from a very reputable source on the board of trustees at Prep that a lot of trustees are mad about Prep leaving the MIAA- they never brought it before the trustees and most of them found out about it when we did.
It's also interesting they chose to leave right after the IAC proposal to kick them out in all sports failed by only 1 vote.
I wonder if the IAC ever does kick Prep out in all sports if they will try to return to the MIAA in all sports. There are no logical leagues for them to join in the DC area outside of the IAC.
eaglesinsider, why is Prep so apposed to joining the WCAC? As an outsider, is it because they think they would not be competive in anything but Lacross, or maybe Basketball where they have fell off lately in?
I've always gathered the main reason is Prep not wanting to be associated with the WCAC academically. Prep generally feels like they are on another level then those schools. There is a reason that Prep is the only MD school founded by a religious order in the IAC, and that is that there is a sense that they are too good academically to be associated with any of the WCAC schools. When the IAC kicked Prep out in football, they did not even consider the WCAC, it was either go independent or join the MIAA.
The fact that they would be competing with Gonzaga for 3rd place in football does not help either. They would probably be top of the conference in lacrosse and top 5 in basketball. I think they would be fairly dominant in track and top 3 in wrestling. I don't think competition is the main reason of keeping them out of the WCAC though.
Prep is the biggest school by far in the IAC, with nearly twice as many boys as the next closest school. Landon may have a big campus but they have less than 250 boys in the upper school.
Another thing I think is keeping them out of the WCAC is that Prep seems to try to downplay the "Catholic" aspect of their education. I mean, when naming the Jesuit/Catholic schools, Prep can be easily left out. Prep tries to align themselves more as a McDonogh/Gilman/Landon, an elite secular/non-religious school then as a an elite religious-affiliated school like Loyola where Jesuit education is very important. There are a lot more non-Christian students at Prep (they get a lot of sons of foreign diplomats in DC) than you would find at Loyola, CHC, DeMatha, GC, etc... Prep is still nominally a Jesuit school headed by a Friar, but the religious make up of the school is much closer to the secular schools.
Why would this be considered a down year for Calvert Hall? Based on the last 2 yrs. and the talent at that school I would think most people would project them to finish in 2nd in the MIAA this year behind Gilman. Dunbar and Calvert Hall both finished 2nd in their leagues last year and have programs that bring in a lot of talent year in and year out. To say that Dunbar is trying to catch Calvert Hall in a down year is just an excuse. These are two PROGRAMS that shouldn't be worried about down years.
It's not like Dunbar isn't losing any talent off of last year's team and they didn't win the city league last year. There's no Tavon Austin coming back next year. This looks like a good matchup on paper any way you look at it. Scheduling is about timing and it might have taken a couple of years to get this game scheduled. Given all the talk about how dominant the MIAA is I'm shocked to hear people talk about this being a down year for one of their top teams especially when they're only facing a team from the "weak city league." We're talking about a program that's been stocked at the jv and freshman team levels for a few years now. Do you honestly believe Coach Davis is looking at this upcoming year as a down year? I don't think Dunbar will be looking at Calvert Hall as an inferior opponent.
Let's not start making excuses months before the game is even played. I'm looking forward to a very good game and keep in mind I'm far from being a Dunbar fan. We had an entire thread talking about how overrated Dunbar is because they don't play anybody and now they're playing a program that's been one of the top in the state for the last few years and people are still complaining. I guess they just can't win.
Last edited by 85Knight; 04-06-2012 at 11:13 AM.
I definitely think CHC will be down in comparison to the last two years. They will not be able to replace Stuart and the Williams boys. Those will be the three big ones that they will be missing most of all.
As everyone's knows, I'm not a CHC supporter but I believe on paper Dunbar is stronger, they are LOADED. That being said, I truly think CHC will win this game.
I agree with you GA. But with Dunbar being loaded as you say, what makes you pick CHC? I think CHC will out coach Dunbar, which IMO along with Oline play has been their achilles heel. Playing in a weak league teams can get by on suspect coaching and bad Oline play and rely solely on athletic ability. I honestly see CHC winning by 3 TDs and I dont think Dunbar will score much on their D. It is one thing playing IBE but not the same when a team plays CHC.
It's all relative and there was some omitted back story about CHC/Dunbar. There is some validity to his statement. I understand it brought some emotions to the surface concerning city league vs. the MIAA. The person who made that post is not a CHC or Davis fan. He was a supporter of one player who is graduating in 2 months, but not the program or Davis the least. As for me, well, I am a big supporter or both, aka CHC/Davis homer.
Yes, people are considering this year down compared to 2010, 2011 seasons and the potential in 2013 and 2014. Personally, I think they will be a playoff team and project to finish 2nd again and I think the OL will be considerably than last year, but it will take a few games to gel. I would call this upcoming season a "transition" season. Most seasons in HS sports are transition seasons, but the 2012 Calvert Hall football team will be going through a greater transition than most, if not all MIAA teams. The starters (and contributing players) lost from both teams is not even close to comparable to Dunbar. The only two teams in the state more talented on paper going into the 2012 season are Good Counsel and Gilman. The 2012 Dunbar team could end up being their most talented team ever. CHC loses many, many more starter on both sides of the ball than Dunbar and they lose 28 seniors total. The varsity experience gap in this game will be huge but talent is there at CHC. 85 Knight, you are correct, the program itself is in much better shape than it was 3 years ago. CHC is now in a position to compete year in and year out. Overcoming the loss of 28 seniors, including 15 starters is not something that happens over night. 16 starters if you count another player who would be a 3rd year defensive starter in 2012, but he was dismissed from the school.
Don't get me wrong, there is plenty of talent at CHC, but they will have new starters playing upwards of 15 out of 22 starting positions. New QB Colar Kuhns (Thomas Stuart's understudy) is a very smart kid (4.0 gpa) who has all of the tools to play D1 football. How quickly he develops a rapport with the group of very good WR's and RB's, including a transfer RB and possibly a freshman or 2 WR/TE will go a long way in determining the outcome of this game. Colar won the Underclassmen MVP at Rivals 5 star camp over Dunbar's QB and many others from NY to North Carolina. He also won underclassmen QB MVP at IMG Madden Camp in Florida in January. Colar might have the best arm in the area this season. Maybe the Dunbar game is going to be his coming out party, but you never know until they play the game 5 months from now. The real challenge early will be the amount of new players moving up from JV and or playing their 1st game on the big stage without previous varsity experience. The leadership vacuum is an annual dilemma in HS footbal. However, some coaches can coach 20 years without losing 28 seniors in one class. It's quite a transition but I think they will be fine there too.
I am pretty sure the "down year" comment is subjective based on a few variables. The person who made that comment has been very critical of Davis on this board in the past. It also evolved from a few things that transpired off the field. They wouldn't touch CHC with a 10 ft pole (scrimmage or game) the past two years. There has already been plenty of smack talk among a group of a handful or two friends that work out together in the off season. However, GA is correct. There is not much love lost among some of the the adults. I really hope they did not take it personally when their best player applied to CHC two years ago. I know the CHC staff didn't take it personally when four seniors transferred to Dunbar for their senior year. Every one of those kids stood behind the CHC bench in '09 at Gilman and cheered on their former team while their coaches were behind the Gilman bench. They were welcome back on CHC campus to visit and a couple of them still work out at CHC in the summer and attend CHC football games. I would have hoped the Dunbar coaches felt the same when their best player applied to CHC two years ago, but the word is they did not.
Nope, I actually forgot about him. The transfer is from a public school. Good RB who will provide depth. We are still waiting on the word if the two transfers from the class of 2015 were accepted. I am not holding my breath on that one. I heard one of Gilman's 8th graders is going to McDonogh too. He played MLB for Hamilton last year.
I didn't hear that but it would be a serious loss. I think he's going to be a monster. His brother is a senior at Gilman so that's surprising. But along with TV Jr. Gilman is getting his brother who will be a 8th grader. Word is he is a 5 star player and better than his brother.
Looks like McDonogh is making moves
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