Hispanic assimilation has failed

[wake_up]

"But if only 48 percent of third-generation Hispanic adults describe themselves as Americans first and Peruvians or Mexicans or Cubans second, can anyone say that assimilation is workin well for Hispanic immigrants? That glass is clearly not half full. Shouldn’t we expect that third-generation number to be closer to 90 percent?"

Remember to Press one for English and two for Spanish.

http://www.wnd.com/2012/04/hispanic-...on-has-failed/

Who is Dave Camp and what is he doing?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxKlAwRzMn4

[Mitchum]

LOL Tom Tancredo has fallen so low that he is resorting to writing columns for the "World Nut Daily"?

[Bmoreteacher]

"But if only 48 percent of third-generation Hispanic adults describe themselves as Americans first and Peruvians or Mexicans or Cubans second, can anyone say that assimilation is workin well for Hispanic immigrants? That glass is clearly not half full. Shouldn’t we expect that third-generation number to be closer to 90 percent?"

Remember to Press one for English and two for Spanish.

http://www.wnd.com/2012/04/hispanic-...on-has-failed/

Who is Dave Camp and what is he doing?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxKlAwRzMn4

Are you serious?

38 percent are bilingual in using Spanish and English with equal ease, but among those with a preference, 38 percent prefer speaking Spanish while only 24 percent prefer to use English

In other words, 62% of Hispanic immigrants use English? Since when is it a crime for native speakers of another language to prefer their own language??? If I moved to another country, I would prefer to speak English as that is my first and easiest language. How is this not self-evidence to the writer of this moronic article?

Many pundits will applaud the fact that 82 percent of adult Hispanics can speak English, but what are we to make of the 18 percent who do not? Maybe it’s just as well that the data do not tell us how many of these 9 million non-English speaking adults are registered voters.

What in the freaking hell does this even mean? This is speculation, not fact. Shame on Wake Up for posting such an utterly ridiculous piece of crap article.

[Calamari]

They keep forgetting to pretend they are only against illegals, lol.

[crabsnbeer]

"But if only 48 percent of third-generation Hispanic adults describe themselves as Americans first and Peruvians or Mexicans or Cubans second, can anyone say that assimilation is workin well for Hispanic immigrants? That glass is clearly not half full. Shouldn’t we expect that third-generation number to be closer to 90 percent?"

Remember to Press one for English and two for Spanish.

Who the hell cares?

[ivanbalt]

Maybe the US should set up re-education camps to ensure assimilation?

I'm joking.

[Fang]

"But if only 48 percent of third-generation Hispanic adults describe themselves as Americans first and Peruvians or Mexicans or Cubans second, can anyone say that assimilation is workin well for Hispanic immigrants? That glass is clearly not half full. Shouldn’t we expect that third-generation number to be closer to 90 percent?"

Remember to Press one for English and two for Spanish.

http://www.wnd.com/2012/04/hispanic-...on-has-failed/

Who is Dave Camp and what is he doing?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxKlAwRzMn4

I'm not sure the point you are getting at.

[uche]

Are you serious?

In other words, 62% of Hispanic immigrants use English? Since when is it a crime for native speakers of another language to prefer their own language??? If I moved to another country, I would prefer to speak English as that is my first and easiest language. How is this not self-evidence to the writer of this moronic article?

What in the freaking hell does this even mean? This is speculation, not fact. Shame on Wake Up for posting such an utterly ridiculous piece of crap article.

Wakeup's article stated "...only 48 percent of third-generation Hispanic adults describe themselves as Americans first..." Read - Describe themselves as Americans first..." Nothing to do with what language they speak. I lived in Los Angeles for 20 years up to a few years ago. The Hispanic community's Joint (meaning Mexican, El Salvador, etc) attitudes is that they will "take back" this country from the invaders. Most Mexicans I met did not like to consider Los Angeles anything other than Northern Mexico.

[betamanlet]

I'm curious why the left are so opposed to hispanics assimilating.

They can only have one of two purposes given that every other group that came here to the US has been expected to assimilate, and has assimilated.

There aren't multi generation of other groups say from Vietnam, that can't speak the language.

So the reasons are simple.

1. Liberals think hispanics are too stupid to assimilate and learn english

or

2. They realize that if they don't assimilate, their prospects will be limited, and thus will need handouts from the government, and thus will vote for libs in gratitude.

Which is it?

[regularguy]

1. Ask someone of pure Irish or Italian ancestry what his cultural identification is. A pretty hefty percentage will say "Irish" or "Italian".

2. If you were transferred to France for your job and decided you would like to stay there indefinitely, would your stop speaking English to your spouse? Would you discourage your children from learning and/or speaking English?

3. An "American" would be anyone living in North America, Central America, or South America.

[banner1124]

I'm curious why the left are so opposed to hispanics assimilating.

They can only have one of two purposes given that every other group that came here to the US has been expected to assimilate, and has assimilated.

There aren't multi generation of other groups say from Vietnam, that can't speak the language.

So the reasons are simple.

1. Liberals think hispanics are too stupid to assimilate and learn english

or

2. They realize that if they don't assimilate, their prospects will be limited, and thus will need handouts from the government, and thus will vote for libs in gratitude.

Which is it?

The problem with your question is that it's based on the lie that the left is opposed to hispanics assimilating. Unless you can prove that claim the rest is just noise.

[Wes]

I'm curious why the left are so opposed to hispanics assimilating.

They can only have one of two purposes given that every other group that came here to the US has been expected to assimilate, and has assimilated.

There aren't multi generation of other groups say from Vietnam, that can't speak the language.

So the reasons are simple.

1. Liberals think hispanics are too stupid to assimilate and learn english

or

2. They realize that if they don't assimilate, their prospects will be limited, and thus will need handouts from the government, and thus will vote for libs in gratitude.

Which is it?

Huh???

[Smokey 1]

1. Ask someone of pure Irish or Italian ancestry what his cultural identification is. A pretty hefty percentage will say "Irish" or "Italian".

Of course if you asked about their cultural identification you would get that response but the real question should be do you indentify as an American.

2. If you were transferred to France for your job and decided you would like to stay there indefinitely, would your stop speaking English to your spouse? Would you discourage your children from learning and/or speaking English?

No, but I would encourage them to use French as much as possible and not to be rude and speak English in front of people who didn't understand the language.

3. An "American" would be anyone living in North America, Central America, or South America.

It could be but common usage generally means a US resident.

[regularguy]

Of course if you asked about their cultural identification you would get that response but the real question should be do you indentify as an American.

It wasn't at all clear what the survey question was in the linked article.

No, but I would encourage them to use French as much as possible and not to be rude and speak English in front of people who didn't understand the language.

Depends what you mean by "in front of". If they were walking down the sidewalk talking to each other, should they speak French because there are others who will overhear them? If a person who doesn't speak the language isn't part of the conversation, what difference does it make?

[Smokey 1]

It wasn't at all clear what the survey question was in the linked article.

Depends what you mean by "in front of". If they were walking down the sidewalk talking to each other, should they speak French because there are others who will overhear them? If a person who doesn't speak the language isn't part of the conversation, what difference does it make?

It does depend on the situation but I would try to avoid using a language where it appears that you might be talking about non speakers who are in earshot. That is just rude.

[kudzu]

1. Ask someone of pure Irish or Italian ancestry what his cultural identification is. A pretty hefty percentage will say "Irish" or "Italian".

That's great ! Those folks should probably move to Italy or Ireland so they can feel more at home.

2. If you were transferred to France for your job and decided you would like to stay there indefinitely, would your stop speaking English to your spouse?

Nope.

Would you discourage your children from learning and/or speaking English?

No, but I'd make damn sure that French was their primary language since that's the country/culture I chose to raise them in.

3. An "American" would be anyone living in North America, Central America, or South America.

Oh, please. You think a sheep herder in Pantagonia considers themselves an "American".

American in the eyes of the world = being a United States citizen.

[georjec2]

Maybe the US should set up re-education camps to ensure assimilation?

I'm joking.

Which is a disappointment to some posters here.

[Bmoreteacher]

I'm curious why the left are so opposed to hispanics assimilating.

They can only have one of two purposes given that every other group that came here to the US has been expected to assimilate, and has assimilated.

There aren't multi generation of other groups say from Vietnam, that can't speak the language.

So the reasons are simple.

1. Liberals think hispanics are too stupid to assimilate and learn english

or

2. They realize that if they don't assimilate, their prospects will be limited, and thus will need handouts from the government, and thus will vote for libs in gratitude.

Which is it?

I'm curious as to where anyone said they were opposed to hispanics assimilating.

[octoburn]

They keep forgetting to pretend they are only against illegals, lol.

That is actually pretty funny and it is an accurate observation. It's happened before when they forgot and let their guard down when spouting off about Hispanics.