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    Quote Originally Posted by Mom49of4 View Post
    What makes John Kerry a hero?
    He served in combat -- admirably, as far as those who served with him are concerned.

    They, and he, are heroes.

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    It's not a political hit piece. Colonel Hackworth was the real deal.

    A political hit piece would be like what the Swift Boaters did to the real hero John Kerry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mom49of4 View Post
    What makes John Kerry a hero?
    Are you suggesting that he is not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LarryN View Post
    And Bill Clinton.
    True...Clinton never served either.
    Come to think of it, I don't think a veteran of the Vietnam War has yet been elected as President. I also don't think that a veteran of the Korean War was ever elected President.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mitchum View Post
    It's not a political hit piece. Colonel Hackworth was the real deal.

    A political hit piece would be like what the Swift Boaters did to the real hero John Kerry.
    I should have been clearer . . . it was used as a political hit piece.

    And while he was the real deal, he was way off base with much of what he said in that article.

    I do agree wholeheartedly with your second sentence, though

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    Quote Originally Posted by octoburn View Post
    McCain is a hero. He proudly served in a cause he professed to believe in and voluntarily put himself in harm's way.

    Romney shared only the whole belief in the cause part. When it came to serving in the military himself, he opted to let others do what he himself supported, but only through words ~ not service.

    The distinction between the two is as glaringly different as it is obvious.
    So avoiding military service by manipulating draft boards, avoiding physical exams, running away to another country, and writing letters about "loathing the military" are now qualities that make a man unfit to be president?

    lol, the hypocrisy.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ms maggie View Post
    I often wondered why McCain is considered a war hero? He was captured and endured dreadful suffering, but how does that make him a hero? To me a hero is someone who willingly puts himself in harm's way for the benefit of others--so in that sense, everyone who served is a hero.
    http://www.azcentral.com/news/electi...-chapter3.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baltimatt View Post
    ms. maggie

    http://www.azcentral.com/news/electi...-chapter3.html

    McCain refused early release from prison because it would violate the Code of Conduct.
    You beat me to it. If that doesn't describe a hero, I don't what does.

    Who on this dumb arse board could possibly comprehend what it must have been like for McAin and the other prsioners.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LMoore24 View Post
    James Madison?

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    Madison asked Congress for a declaration of war, which was passed along sectional and party lines, with intense opposition from the Federalists and the Northeast, where the economy had suffered during Jefferson's trade embargo.[68][70]

    ...

    The British raided Washington in 1814, as Madison headed a dispirited militia. Dolley Madison rescued White House valuables and documents shortly before the British burned the White House, the Capitol and other public buildings.[74][75]

    ...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Madison#War_of_1812

    I'd be very suspecious about that "...as Madison headed a dispirited militia...", since I suspect the only thing he headed them in was the retreat. But I'll give you a gold star for this discover anyway. Who knows, the old boy might have actually heard the sound of gunfire at some point in the whole affair.

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    A vote for Romney is a vote for another war in the Middlle East, this time with Iran. Romney's foreign policy advisors are the same neocons that were advising Bush. Add that to Romney's 30+ year friendship with Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu, and you get a very hawkish Mid-East policy. I am not interested in another war, and certainly not another pre-emptive war started by a man who dodged the draft when it was his time to serve.

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    Romney Wants War in Iran

    Should Mitt Romney make it to the White House, his Middle East policy and plan for Iran may be as hawkish as that of Bush Junior, thanks to Eliot Cohen.

    http://www.veteransnewsnow.com/2012/...s-war-in-iran/

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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunRaven View Post
    You beat me to it. If that doesn't describe a hero, I don't what does.

    Who on this dumb arse board could possibly comprehend what it must have been like for McAin and the other prsioners.
    Just about every chattering nabob here that’s unfit to voice an opinion on the matter in the first place. McCain is the real deal, no matter what else you might think of him. And as wealthy as he probably is, he'd never have to pay for his own drinks when I'm around.

    These people who talk of "heroes" have no notion of what it's like. They have some romantic notion of war. That’s okay if you happen to be a colonel collecting bronze and silver stars for heroically directing battles from your CP. But the guys with their faces in the mud have a different view of what courage is. McCain belongs to this latter group. That's all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bullmikey View Post
    Just about every chattering nabob here that’s unfit to voice an opinion on the matter in the first place. McCain is the real deal, no matter what else you might think of him. And as wealthy as he probably is, he'd never have to pay for his own drinks when I'm around.

    These people who talk of "heroes" have no notion of what it's like. They have some romantic notion of war. That’s okay if you happen to be a colonel collecting bronze and silver stars for heroically directing battles from your CP. But the guys with their faces in the mud have a different view of what courage is. McCain belongs to this latter group. That's all.
    Totally agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bullmikey View Post
    Just about every chattering nabob here that’s unfit to voice an opinion on the matter in the first place. McCain is the real deal, no matter what else you might think of him. And as wealthy as he probably is, he'd never have to pay for his own drinks when I'm around.

    These people who talk of "heroes" have no notion of what it's like. They have some romantic notion of war. That’s okay if you happen to be a colonel collecting bronze and silver stars for heroically directing battles from your CP. But the guys with their faces in the mud have a different view of what courage is. McCain belongs to this latter group. That's all.
    Spot on!

    OMG, my typing is atrocious!

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