The same thing can be said about Baltimore except Baltimore doesn't have a basketball team and the baseball team is more minor league than anything else!! LOL Baltimore fans resent everyone that isn't Baltimore conected or includes them, which is most things, and are very envious of those cities with real teams and fans!!
When the Ravens started out they were poorly run and broke. If not for Art finally turned the reins over to Ozzie and getting an infusion of money via Biscuit's ownership this still may have been a franchise with a modicum of success.
Cleveland fans are just bitter because their teams sucks. If the Ravens sucked and Cleveland had won a SB in the first five years of its new existence the anger would've been more muted.
They still have the Cleveland Browns. Unlike the fans in every other "former" NFL city.
He didn't take the name, the history, etc.
Unlike the scumbag Irsay. And every other owner who has uprooted and moved a team - all of them took everything from the former city. Only Modell was good enough to allow Cleveland to still have the Browns.
They are in Cleveland, the mistake by the lake. If they're stupid enough to stay there, they deserve a team like the Brownies.
What it did was strengthen the hold that the mid-west has on the league.....first you had Chicago then GB....then Minny....St L to an extent....and yes Cleveland too....and now here comes Indy into the fold....much to the NFL's benefit as has been proven this last decade and 1/2.
NO ONE forgives Baltimore for ripping Cleveland's (and dare I say Ohio's)hearts out. They likely never will. Of all cities to victimize like that.....*shakes head* Don Trumpy spoke for pretty much every non-Baltimore football fan w/his cold winds and muddy roads/moldy hot dogs comment way back when.
So when you wonder why the Ravens always seem to get short scrip from the likes of Bristol/NFLN/NBC/CBS....while there are certianly other minor factors @ work here....as a whole it all goes back to 11/6/95. It always does and always will.
Also (getting off on a tangent here).....if you think about it....this may be the thing that is keeping Tags out of Canton.....his failure to stop the move. Altho from what you read and hear.....if he could've he absolutely would've.
Wrong bub I come on here and read from time to time and on occasion I may post as well. The O’s are the same as they always are and I’ll have plenty of time to go over there and rip them a new one again. I guess when you are a loser following a loser team you have to talk trash and boast as much as possible when the opportunity presents itself cause you know that it will be a very short time that you will have to do so. I’ll see you on the O’s side later and we’ll see whose talking smack then!!
I'd like the Browns to succeed in this years draft just to keep it competitive in our division. Walking all over them weakens our team. If you can never sleep, most likely you won't.
while that has gotten nasty at times, I am not going to cleveland anytime soon ........
last year while visiting a college in cleveland with my daughter, we did go over and check out the stadium and take pictures in front of the ozzie plaque on the stadium wall ........
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