Respected Deford Rips Angelos

[TravisMoon]

awww, looks like moonie's girlie parts are hurting again....Deford is a respected writer....whining about the timing is sad, but when you've dedicated your life to being a message board martyr, it's expected...

here are some indisputable truths:

what he says is true and it comes from being a Baltimore native and real Oriole fan...moonie never lived in Baltimore and latched on to the O's for reason that no really cares about

deford has more talent in his little pinkie than the oft-fired, no talent dj could ever hope to have...

deford writes for some of the best periodicals around...moonie posts crap on this board....

deford is nationally respected...moon toils in obscurity, but he is good at mailing resume's....

being in first place today means nothing and does not erase the last 14 years, they've been in first at various times over the last 4 years and have finished dead last each year.....

calling him an idiot demeans idiots....

Someone cranky?

TM

[Softbank Orioles]

I agree with you regarding most teams in every sport. but Angelos isn't influenced by these things. this article, while accurate, will change nothing. don't misunderstand, I'm not suggesting that it shouldn't have been printed. I'm commenting on this board. there are several posts (it seems weekly) that gripe about the lack of critical reporting on the team. I just don't see the point of it all when the owner isn't influenced by it.

is there any doubt that he knows his team is in the state of ineptitude that Deford described? heck no. he's fully aware. that's not the problem. the problem is he doesn't care.

what did he say in Press Box? "losing's not my game"

I think most of us would like to have a newspaper that isn't trying to feed us fantasies and/or boring by-the-numbers game recaps of our teams.

[Rob]

That's a misquote. Try again.

TM

http://talk.baltimoresun.com/showpos...46&postcount=9

http://talk.baltimoresun.com/showpos...4&postcount=53

http://talk.baltimoresun.com/showpos...35&postcount=5

http://talk.baltimoresun.com/showpos...8&postcount=12

http://talk.baltimoresun.com/showpos...9&postcount=29

http://talk.baltimoresun.com/showpos...05&postcount=4

http://talk.baltimoresun.com/showpos...6&postcount=40

http://talk.baltimoresun.com/showpos...2&postcount=27

http://talk.baltimoresun.com/showpos...4&postcount=58

http://talk.baltimoresun.com/showpos...83&postcount=8

[TravisMoon]

http://talk.baltimoresun.com/showpos...46&postcount=9

http://talk.baltimoresun.com/showpos...4&postcount=53

http://talk.baltimoresun.com/showpos...35&postcount=5

http://talk.baltimoresun.com/showpos...8&postcount=12

http://talk.baltimoresun.com/showpos...9&postcount=29

http://talk.baltimoresun.com/showpos...05&postcount=4

http://talk.baltimoresun.com/showpos...6&postcount=40

http://talk.baltimoresun.com/showpos...2&postcount=27

http://talk.baltimoresun.com/showpos...4&postcount=58

http://talk.baltimoresun.com/showpos...83&postcount=8

Again, read your quote and then read mine. You've misquoted me.



Me: "An owner's role is overstated"

Rob: "The owner's roll in a team's fortunes are minimal."

They are vastly different.
Plus, I know how to use the term "role" with the correct spelling.

TM

[Softbank Orioles]

Again, read your quote and then read mine. You've misquoted me.



Me: "An owner's role is overstated"

Rob: "The owner's roll in a team's fortunes are minimal."

They are vastly different.
Plus, I know how to use the term "role" with the correct spelling.

TM

Semantics.

[weird-O]

I think most of us would like to have a newspaper that isn't trying to feed us fantasies and/or boring by-the-numbers game recaps of our teams.

I'm not a fan of that type of reporting either. I don't think I'm doing a good job of making my point, so I'll move on.

[TravisMoon]

Semantics.

If a "Site Monitor" decides to represent themselves as me in a post, (complete with my initials tagged at the end), then "semantics" should synch up more accurately. Then again, said Site Monitor seems to be jumping the shark when it comes to the carrying out the important responsibilities they are trusted with here.

TM

[Agrippa]

If a "Site Monitor" decides to represent themselves as me in a post, (complete with my initials tagged at the end), then "semantics" should synch up more accurately. Then again, said Site Monitor seems to be jumping the shark when it comes to the carrying out the important responsibilities they are trusted with here.

TM

Your name is not Travis Moon, Bobby

[can you hear me now!]

hate to break this to you moonie...TM stands for a lot of things...

total moron

totally moronic

terribly manic

the moron

totally meaningless


but your NPD automatically makes it about you.....

and isn't it a shame you can't control Rob like you do the other mods? more's the pity for you...

GET OVER YOURSELF.....

[TravisMoon]

hate to break this to you moonie...TM stands for a lot of things...

total moron

totally moronic

terribly manic

the moron

totally meaningless


but your NPD automatically makes it about you.....

and isn't it a shame you can't control Rob like you do the other mods? more's the pity for you...

GET OVER YOURSELF.....

Right on cue.

TM

[Rob]

If a "Site Monitor" decides to represent themselves as me in a post, (complete with my initials tagged at the end), then "semantics" should synch up more accurately. Then again, said Site Monitor seems to be jumping the shark when it comes to the carrying out the important responsibilities they are trusted with here.

TM

TM stands for Team Mensa

[TravisMoon]

TM stands for Team Mensa

How did you know?

TM

[can you hear me now!]

TM stands for Team Mensa

well played....I'm sure mr duck, dodge, deny the truth and it's all about me is moaning again.......

[SeaDee3]

The owner's roll in a team's fortunes are minimal.

TM

What????
I would say that statement is about 90% incorrect.
In Angelos' case he is directly responsible if you look at the people he has hired and fired.

Before he bought the team there were players who wanted to come here, managers who would kill for a chance to manage here and what better ball park and better fans than we have? Almost 4 million to slightly more than 1 million in attendance? Dumb luck or bad breaks? Hardly.

How do you reverse that trend so quickly and keep it on the skids for 14 years?
By thinking that you know more about the game than baseball people and you let your kids get involved who know even less than you.

Andy MacPhail was a good hire as is Buck Showalter. MacPhail had enough and lets see how long before Buck says screw it.

A real savy baseball operation would be trying to lock up Matt Wieters and Adam Jones to long term deals. The Orioles see their situation as money saved for the time being.
Example....Tampa Bay.