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    Quote Originally Posted by crabsnbeer View Post
    The father did the right thing exposing the situation. The school system has to sort out the details.
    But they where. They had fired the individuals who said the stuff.

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    Who sent notes home that the child was having problems with the aide?

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    Quote Originally Posted by crabsnbeer View Post
    Who sent notes home that the child was having problems with the aide?
    I believe the teacher did. Should she not have kept the father informed of the behavior? Physical outbursts and breakthroughs are not uncommon with non-verbal autistic children. It usually stems from a frustration at an inability to communicate!

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    But that is not uncommon in a special education situation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jtowne-swim View Post
    I believe the teacher did. Should she not have kept the father informed of the behavior? Physical outbursts and breakthroughs are not uncommon with non-verbal autistic children. It usually stems from a frustration at an inability to communicate!
    In my mind the teacher is a professional that would know if a child's behavior is out of character. I guess you just have lower expectations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mom49of4 View Post
    But that is not uncommon in a special education situation.
    Well aware. I just had my child's IEP meeting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mom49of4 View Post
    But that is not uncommon in a special education situation.
    So she, the teacher, should have informed the parents of the behavior and if neccessary called an IEP meeting to address the issue if it became a trend. I get that the dad cares for his son and that all autistic children are different but the behaviors described while the father might have felt "where not normal for his son" are not uncommon amongst Autistic Boys entering puberty. It is typical behavior that can be addressed in a variety of manners.

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    It is not about puberty but kids with autism have behaviors that occur simply because someone is not treating them correctly. That has been my experience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crabsnbeer View Post
    In my mind the teacher is a professional that would know if a child's behavior is out of character. I guess you just have lower expectations.
    The problem is Autistim does not leave a kid with a charachter. Behavioral changes are often random and occur without warning. It is not a matter of lowered standards. Her first move is to observe the behavioral changes and notify the parent, which she did. The parent should have taken the info to the doctor and than together they should have modified the IEP to help the student. Instead the dad said it was out of charachter and bugged his son. Don't get me wrong that what the other individuals said was reprehensible and they shouldbe, and have been, fired. That does not mean the teacher who did not say these things and most likely did not know about them should be fired.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mom49of4 View Post
    It is not about puberty but kids with autism have behaviors that occur simply because someone is not treating them correctly. That has been my experience.
    It has also been my experience that as they grow and hormones change so do their behaviors. Sometimes more towards functional and sometimes they regress from functional. Not sure if the kid was on any meds but it is possible that as he grew the meds need to be readjusted and until they are you get these behaviors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jtowne-swim View Post
    The problem is Autistim does not leave a kid with a charachter. Behavioral changes are often random and occur without warning. It is not a matter of lowered standards. Her first move is to observe the behavioral changes and notify the parent, which she did. The parent should have taken the info to the doctor and than together they should have modified the IEP to help the student. Instead the dad said it was out of charachter and bugged his son. Don't get me wrong that what the other individuals said was reprehensible and they shouldbe, and have been, fired. That does not mean the teacher who did not say these things and most likely did not know about them should be fired.
    The part in bold is bull. How do you know the parent did not go to the doctor?

    Do you honestly know what goes into IEP meetings?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mom49of4 View Post
    The part in bold is bull. How do you know the parent did not go to the doctor?

    Do you honestly know what goes into IEP meetings?
    Not sure he did or didn't but he should have either way. Yes I have been in mnay IEP meetings for a variety of kids with different Learning Disabilities. Pretty much a metting every Thursday.

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    I do not support your idea that autism leaves a child without character.
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    If you have not been to an IEP meeting for your child I suspect that your perspective is skewed. Likewise you view or autism. Having worked as a special education teacher and now living as the parent of two special needs children I know both sides of the table.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mom49of4 View Post
    I do not support your idea that autism leaves a child without character.
    I find it scary that a teacher would say that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crabsnbeer View Post
    I find it scary that a teacher would say that.
    My son drives me nuts from time to time. But he has character and honestly I do not always like it.
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    Better salaries for teachers?

    MD elementary school teachers have a median salary of $54,000, plus pension, plus medical, plus other perks.

    http://swz.salary.com/SalaryWizard/T...timore-MD.aspx

    Not to mention paid snow days. Can you imagine a roofer getting a call, it snowed today, don't come in, you still get a full days wages.

    I always love how teachers claim they do not receive a full year's salary.

    I would imagine any police officer, nurse, construction worker or EMS personnel would love to only be scheduled for around 180 days of work per year and be considered a full time employee with benefits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smokey 1 View Post
    I know they work more hours than the six hours the kids are in school each day but they do get nearly three months off.



    The average teachers pay in MD is $54,000/9.5 months.

    http://www.teacherportal.com/teacher-salaries-by-state

    Not bad pay for only nine months of work.



    I already have more than the required education to be a teacher and I took quite a bit more than all those "cut and paste" education courses that a moron couldn't fail.
    And yet you admitted before that you're a state government employee who once quit and tried but failed to make it in the private sector and had to return to again become an employee of the very state government you dislike.

    Seems to me that you're deliberately ignoring the little "supply and demand" aspect in the job market yourself.

    Taxpayers are in as much danger from being trampled by an mass exodus of teachers as they are from a rush to leave their "underpaid" jobs by government employees.

    Besides ~ most people tend to find out what their career choice jobs pay before entering them. If they pay isn't sufficient to meet their needs and their options to advance are limited, then they knowingly made the wrong choice early on if money was the basis for their choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jessup270 View Post
    Better salaries for teachers?

    MD elementary school teachers have a median salary of $54,000, plus pension, plus medical, plus other perks.

    http://swz.salary.com/SalaryWizard/T...timore-MD.aspx

    Not to mention paid snow days. Can you imagine a roofer getting a call, it snowed today, don't come in, you still get a full days wages.

    I always love how teachers claim they do not receive a full year's salary.

    I would imagine any police officer, nurse, construction worker or EMS personnel would love to only be scheduled for around 180 days of work per year and be considered a full time employee with benefits.

    Yes, they get paid snow days so do I but I am not a teacher in the school system. What does happen is the school year is extended. This year it will end on time because while we lost a day due to the earthquake we made it up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mom49of4 View Post
    Yes, they get paid snow days so do I but I am not a teacher in the school system. What does happen is the school year is extended. This year it will end on time because while we lost a day due to the earthquake we made it up.
    To my knowledge snow days are not made up, unless snow days exceed an established number.

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