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    http://www.capitalgazette.com/news/s...4fbcb51a2.html

    "An Arundel Middle School group — meant to mentor boys and address academic and disciplinary disparities — has drawn the ire of parents who said some students weren’t allowed to attend because of their race.

    At issue is the Man Up group, which meets during the school day to allow mentoring from professionals around the community. But the school allowed only African-American youths to attend, some parents said.

    “It was race-based, not needs-based,” said Tracy Mathews, who spoke at this week’s Board of Education meeting. “It was causing a racial divide.”



    The objective is noble and worthwhile, but the execution of the "man up" group needs further work....

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    Quote Originally Posted by slapshot View Post
    http://www.capitalgazette.com/news/s...4fbcb51a2.html

    "An Arundel Middle School group — meant to mentor boys and address academic and disciplinary disparities — has drawn the ire of parents who said some students weren’t allowed to attend because of their race.

    At issue is the Man Up group, which meets during the school day to allow mentoring from professionals around the community. But the school allowed only African-American youths to attend, some parents said.

    “It was race-based, not needs-based,” said Tracy Mathews, who spoke at this week’s Board of Education meeting. “It was causing a racial divide.”



    The objective is noble and worthwhile, but the execution of the "man up" group needs further work....
    I agree. There are plenty of white, asian, and/or hispanic youth who could use a group such as this to help provide strong male role models.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bmoreteacher View Post
    I agree. There are plenty of white, asian, and/or hispanic youth who could use a group such as this to help provide strong male role models.
    Yep. Not everyone in need of mentoring and help is black.

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    Why not just call it discrimination?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baltimatt View Post
    Why not just call it discrimination?
    I agree

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    We have a similar group but there has never been a race factor. In fact ALL boys are invited to join. Some boys are more aggressively invited based on academic, behavior and attendance issues.

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    not surprising at all ........

    that's why we need to eliminate all race based special rights and privileges ......

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    "reverse discrimination."


    There's really no such thing. Discrimination is ugly and should be illegal regardless of the direction it's traveling in. I think part of making all people equal should also include making all bigots equal by say discrimination is discrimination. No flavor of discrimination is more or less palatable or acceptable. There is simply is no exscuse for it in any way, shape or form.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wizard777 View Post
    "reverse discrimination."


    There's really no such thing. Discrimination is ugly and should be illegal regardless of the direction it's traveling in. I think part of making all people equal should also include making all bigots equal by say discrimination is discrimination. No flavor of discrimination is more or less palatable or acceptable. There is simply is no exscuse for it in any way, shape or form.
    I agree 100%

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    so there should be NO affirmative action?? I agree with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thoughtful View Post
    so there should be NO affirmative action?? I agree with that.

    Way back in the bad old days. Affirmative Action was an effective tool for breaking down the walls of segregation. It was a way to hold accountable and punish the corporate persona for their bigotry and discrimination. But now one of the richest women in the world is a black woman and America has hired a black man to be President Of The United States. So to a certain degree I think Affirmative Action has outlived it's usefulness. Now we look at things in terms of equal opportunity with discrimination of any kind being it's antithesis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wizard777 View Post
    Way back in the bad old days. Affirmative Action was an effective tool for breaking down the walls of segregation. It was a way to hold accountable and punish the corporate persona for their bigotry and discrimination. But now one of the richest women in the world is black woman and America has hired a black man to be President Of The United States. So to a certain degree I think Affirmative Action has outlived it's usefulness. Now we look at things in terms of equal opportunity with discrimination of any kind being it's antithesis.
    The minorities are not going to give that crap up

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thoughtful View Post
    so there should be NO affirmative action?? I agree with that.
    So do most black people

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wizard777 View Post
    "reverse discrimination."


    There's really no such thing. Discrimination is ugly and should be illegal regardless of the direction it's traveling in. I think part of making all people equal should also include making all bigots equal by say discrimination is discrimination. No flavor of discrimination is more or less palatable or acceptable. There is simply is no exscuse for it in any way, shape or form.
    Well said.

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    All Arundel Middle School boys were expected to attend a Man Up Summit today to address self-empowerment and empowerment, according to a flier sent to parents. Other activities have been planned for female students at the school.

    The activities were seen as a victory for Arundel Middle parents who said they worried students had been kept from participating.

    Principal Shawn Ashworth said Man Up has never been exclusive.
    The meetings have been open to students of other races, Ashworth said. “But there’s been a focus.”

    The focus, Ashworth said, is addressing disparities in disciplinary referrals and testing performance among African-American students. The Man Up group was meant to bring in male role models to talk with students.

    “It provides young men with outside people who talk about what it means to be a successful man in society,” she said.
    If it's a program for male students, it should be open to all male students who meet the criteria, which should not include race.

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    The Man Up group was meant to bring in male role models to talk with students.
    Where are their fathers? Are they not good role models?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeebus View Post
    Where are their fathers? Are they not good role models?
    I covered that with you in another thread

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    Might I suggest the racemongers in this forum to do a little research on the Man Up program. The group has been and continues to be open to boys of all races. If there's lack of participation from races other than African Americans then it's a reflection on those who choose not to participate not the Man Up program!

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingSolomon View Post
    Might I suggest the racemongers in this forum to do a little research on the Man Up program. The group has been and continues to be open to boys of all races. If there's lack of participation from races other than African Americans then it's a reflection on those who choose not to participate not the Man Up program!
    I'm glad you brought that up, because nothing in their mission statement mentions color

    http://www.manupgroup.com/missionstatement.htm

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    That 70% number doesn't mean that 70% of black fathers aren't involved in their children's lives. You're falling for the old okie doke. You don't have to be married to the mother or live with the child to be a responsible father. Sadly, they don't keep statistics like that because it doesn't jive with their agenda. Yet another reason I don't buy into most statistics

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