Man beat into coma for complimenting other guy's car

[Calamari]

Amazing how every stormfront thread seems to end up here nearly verbatim.

[Baltimatt]

Calamari--

I don't normally peruse Stormfront, so I guess I'll have to take your word for it. Even the responses are basically the same?

[Smokey 1]

Calamari--

I don't normally peruse Stormfront, so I guess I'll have to take your word for it.

I just checked, no one linked to that site on this thread. She is just making things up again.

[betamanlet]

Calamari: Are you suggesting a zionist jew such as myself frequents stormfront?

Do you think those people look favorably upon people like me?

[karlydee]

Do you really think it's "worse" if someone decided to knock me into a coma because I'm Jewish than if someone knocked me into a coma becuse I complimented his car's rims?

One should be treated more seriously than the other?

Intent and motive are commonly used to differentiate between severity of crimes and punishments.

The State has decided that in order to deter crimes motivated primarily or entirely because of racial, ethnic, or religious prejudice/bigotry; punishments for such crimes will be more severe.

Comparable statutes are found with respect to escalating punishments as the age of victims of certain crimes decreases. Is it fair to the adult victims of such crimes that the perpetrator of their assault has a maximum sentence much lower than if they (the victim) was under age 12?

[Wild Eyed Southern Boy]

Specific hate crime punishment is useless unless it is applied equally.

There are obviously protected areas, sexual orientation, race, religion, etc., no?

Either enforce it equally or it's worthless. Arguments that majority populations cannot be victimized by hate crimes renders hate crime legislation impotent.

Can't have it both ways.

If you have an expected level of unacceptable behavior, it must apply to everyone, regardless of whatever happened a hundred, two hundred or 1000 years ago. Giving somebody a pass for it makes the the intent of the law worthless.

[betamanlet]

Intent and motive are commonly used to differentiate between severity of crimes and punishments.

The State has decided that in order to deter crimes motivated primarily or entirely because of racial, ethnic, or religious prejudice/bigotry; punishments for such crimes will be more severe.

Comparable statutes are found with respect to escalating punishments as the age of victims of certain crimes decreases. Is it fair to the adult victims of such crimes that the perpetrator of their assault has a maximum sentence much lower than if they (the victim) was under age 12?

But there are only a handful of those crimes, black on black crime is far more common, so wouldn't it make sense to try to further discourage black on black crime? I would think deterring the COMMOn crimes would be more important of a priority given how many more lives it takes, including even innocent bystanders.

I find it hard to believe it's worse to beat up a gay guy than to kill an innocent bystander in a drive by s hooting.

[Baltimatt]

Specific hate crime punishment is useless unless it is applied equally.

There are obviously protected areas, sexual orientation, race, religion, etc., no?

Either enforce it equally or it's worthless. Arguments that majority populations cannot be victimized by hate crimes renders hate crime legislation impotent.

Can't have it both ways.

Who says majority populations can't be victimized. Wisconsin v. Mitchell.

[Wild Eyed Southern Boy]

Who says majority populations can't be victimized. Wisconsin v. Mitchell.

I've seen it stated by some on this board that white people can't be victims of hate crimes.

Good for somebody that actually implemented the law as it was written. Even then it was challenged on appeal to the state supreme court.

[betamanlet]

I've seen it on this board that white people can't be victims of hate crimes.

Good for somebody that actually implemented the law as it was written.

We've had multiple cases of what would think you would at least charge for a hate crime, where the authorities have refused to do so.

Remember my link last week of the Norfolk, VA beating where 30+ black teens attacked a white couple, even their newspaper buried the story for 2 weeks. No hate crime charges.

[Baltimatt]

I've seen it on this board that white people can't be victims of hate crimes.

Good for somebody that actually implemented the law as it was written.

Don't believe everything you read on this board. But yes, the Supreme Court case the decided the constitutionality of hate crimes law where where a black person was charged with assaulting a white person.

[Wild Eyed Southern Boy]

We've had multiple cases of what would think you would at least charge for a hate crime, where the authorities have refused to do so.

Remember my link last week of the Norfolk, VA beating where 30+ black teens attacked a white couple, even their newspaper buried the story for 2 weeks. No hate crime charges.

A I said, either implement it equally or its effect is worthless and continues to contribute to a divided society.

[betamanlet]

A I said, either implement it equally or its effect is worthless and continues to contribute to a divided society.

It's not politically correct to admit a minority is capable of a hate crime.

[Wild Eyed Southern Boy]

It's not politically correct to admit a minority is capable of a hate crime.

The article doesn't really expalin what actually happened.

What did the victim do, mistake 22's for 18's?

[betamanlet]

http://wtop.com/109/2855431/Girl-10-...g-in-car-in-DC

Fortunatly this girl will recover, but what is more common, anti gay hate crimes or people getting shot by stray bullets from intraracial crime? What needs to be discouraged more?

[zenwalk]

http://wtop.com/109/2855431/Girl-10-...g-in-car-in-DC

Fortunatly this girl will recover, but what is more common, anti gay hate crimes or people getting shot by stray bullets from intraracial crime? What needs to be discouraged more?

You'll find life perks up once you stop obsessing over race, gays, crime and guns.

[betamanlet]

You'll find life perks up once you stop obsessing over race, gays, crime and guns.

That's too bad liberals don't obsess about those issues. At least I believe in equality, unlike liberals who think some people are more special and deserve more protections.

[banner1124]

Good Lord beta you still don't get it. This discussion is pretty much over because you can't see past your own tired and flat out wrong argument. Nothing more to see here