Owners of dangerous dogs demand protection from liability

[crabsnbeer]

Pit Bull Struck by Freight Train While Pulling Owner Away from Tracks



This is the true nature of pit bulls.

Is THIS the true nature of pit bulls?


http://www.lcsun-news.com/ci_2057483...e=most_emailed

LAS CRUCES — A 16-month-old child died Tuesday after being mauled by her family dog, a 2-year-old pit bull, in the backyard of her grandparents' house on the 800 block of Stone Canyon Drive.
The girl's 52-year-old grandmother was also accidentally shot in the leg by a neighbor who tried to stop the pit bull from attacking her and the child. The neighbor followed the dog and fatally shot it near the side of the house, police said.
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Tuesday's attack marked the second deadly pit bull attack in less than a week in New Mexico. Santa Fe police are investigating the May 2 death of a 74-year-old man who had been reportedly attacked by his own pit bull.

[Cetshwayo]

I drove through Irvington today and passed a young man walking two gigantic pitts down Frederick Rd. They both looked powerful and even though he appeared to be about 18-22 and strong he was having trouble keeping them under control. But he looked as proud as a peacock with he two ghetto dogs.
Maybe he is a nice guy and maybe those two dogs are sweethearts.
But then again maybe not.

If stereotyping people is wrong then stereotyping animals is wrong. A person should assume no person or no animal is a danger to them until the dog clamps it's powerful jaws onto your childs leg and thrashes him/her like a ragdoll. Then one might have some suspicion for a subsequent episode, but, that would be stereotyping, so, one should never assume a dog could be a danger regardless of one's experience.

Bigotry is bigotry whether it's a person, pitbull or malarial mosquito.

[Mitchum]

They are the best dogs with kids out there. That's why they were always called the "Nanny Dogs".

http://www.ywgrossman.com/photoblog/?p=676

[gps29070]

They are the best dogs with kids out there. That's why they were always called the "Nanny Dogs".

except when they are tearing the limbs off young children.

100% of Pitbull owners claim their dogs are the greatest... that includes the owners who breed them to fight. That's why their opinion means nothing, it's distorted.

[Mitchum]

No, you have it wrong the Pitt Bull detractors are the one's with the distorted views.

[Wizard777]

Thats cool, but you're sort of expressing the sort of bravado that's caused this issue in the first place. You're describing your dogs as killers, with the only thing making them not as popular as Pits is the cost.

So whats a thug to do if he can't afford your breed? Consider, he wants to brag about his dogs lethality, just like you're doing, but he can't afford the exotic breeds. The Pit Bull and it's variations fit the bill for the urban thug, if not the gentrified well off guy.

No, I describe my dogs as the biggest domesticated breed of dogs in existance. That is the main reason I got them is because they are proportionate to me. All 6' 11" of me. They are my size dogs. I think this is what lead you think that.

if you don't belong in their territory you will not be coming back.

That is entirely my fault. I should have elaborated more on that. There are only two places you are going to get a decent Tibetan Mastiff. That's from the monks that domesticated them or the wild. If you do not belong in the camp, temple or monestary. The Mastiff will try to drive you off with intimidation Tactics. Basically barking, growling and snarling. If you try to harm someone in the camp, temple or monestary then yes they will attack you. They have been world famous guard dogs for centuries. The same applies for animals that try to harm flocks they guard. They can take down Tigers. But when I say, "if you don't belong in their territory you will not be coming back." I was refering to the wild Tibetan Mastiffs. They are just as dangerous as the Mongolian Mastiff or any other wild animal.

Yes I will not hesitate to tell the truth about them. As a responsible dog owner I always have to keep in the back of my mind what they are fully capable of. I also don't want others having false a impression of them. Most people think of even big dogs of being able to kill an alley cat. But a Tiger would eat them. Not the case with my dogs. They would inhale an alley cat before eating a tiger. That is not bravado or even braggadocio. It just the God's honest truth about them. The other thing I will not hesitate to tell people about them is that they are big hairy lovable slobber factories. Again it just the God's honest truth about them. Even though the breed has been world famous guard dogs for centuries. I do not leave that to their instincts. They are professionally trained guard dogs just like Sweet I and Heart I.

I'm sorry I gave you the wrong impression.

[crabsnbeer]

Sweet and heart.

And you have bragged about their training and deadly power many times.

[Wizard777]

Is THIS the true nature of pit bulls?


http://www.lcsun-news.com/ci_2057483...e=most_emailed

Crabs, That is just another incideous part of the real damage people that abuse them not only do to the dog but their bloodline as well. Because they can pass that vicious trait along to their puppies. If you're not dealing with a reputable breeder. You can buy a cute lovable lil pit bull puppy that grows up to be just as vicious as their mommy and daddy. You really have no way of knowing that you just bought a timebomb until it's chewing your childs face off.

So I also favor a Pit Bull registry to help save the breed and also to protect consumers that buy Pit Bulls. They have a right to know what they're truly buying. They have a right to know if they are getting a "good pit bull" or a vicious beast. The only way to know that is by tracking the Bloodlines. It can also be used to remove the known vicious dogs from the gene pool. This in turn restoring the more desirable traits through animal husbandry to the entire breed. Then buying a pit bull will eventually cease to be a crap shoot.

[Wizard777]

Sweet and heart.

And you have bragged about their training and deadly power many times.

No, I have been very open and honest in discussions about them. It's not like I do what Police Dog Handlers occassionally do. That's take them to a school or a fair so children can watch them tear up a guy in a padded suit and see how vicious police dogs can be. Geesh

[pepper]

They are the best dogs with kids out there. That's why they were always called the "Nanny Dogs".

http://www.ywgrossman.com/photoblog/?p=676

And thats obviously true, and it's why they're the most popular breed with families.

[Sidewinder]

I agree.

If someone owns a pet alligator, it shouldn't get "one free bite" either before the owner is liable.

Good analogy, and thanks for the chuckle!

[Sidewinder]

Pit Bull owners are simply demanding an equal protection of law. That is a very valid issue. I just can't see any parent standing in an ER saying, I'm just glad my child's face was chewed off by a Standard Poodle instead of a Pit Bull. That is until it's time to pay the bills for the many facial reconstruction surgeries. Then the parents will wish that their childs face had been chewed off by a Pit Bull with a greater liability. But because the childs face was chewed off by a Standard Poodle with one free bite they'll be paying most of those bills. Liability should be specific to the injury, not the breed. Bit is bit and dead is dead. It's not like a snake bite where a doctor needs to know what species of snake bit you so they know which anti venom to use. It's going to take 10 stiches to close the wound regardless of it being inflicted by a Pit Bull or Chihuahua. The doctor just doesn't need to know what breed the dog was to treat the wounds. So the liability should be injury specific instead of breed specific.

I can't recall a poodle chewing a kid's face off recently...got a link for that?

[Mitchum]

Happens quite a bit.

http://www.wboc.com/story/10769319/g...edirected=true

[Smokey 1]

Happens quite a bit.

http://www.wboc.com/story/10769319/g...edirected=true

How do you get "quite a bit" out of one reported incident you cited? You have to do better than that to prove "quite a bit".

[The Astute Reader(tm)]

I see that The Usual Suspects subscribe to Voodoo and other superstitions.

Show me a dog with violent tendencies and I'll show you a dog that was not properly socialized and disciplined by its owner. Period. You may now return to your regularly scheduled Chicken Little dance.

[yuca]

Good analogy, and thanks for the chuckle!

Comparing a wild animal with a domesticated animal. Yeah, that's a good analogy.

Is THIS the true nature of pit bulls?

I don't know... Is THIS the true nature of humans? Or, in this case, a particular subset of humans?

[crabsnbeer]

I have no respect for any person that chooses to own a pit bull

[crabsnbeer]

Happens quite a bit.

http://www.wboc.com/story/10769319/g...edirected=true

Posted: Jul 22, 2009 10:20 AM EDT
Updated: Aug 06, 2009 12:50 PM EDT

[Wizard777]

I have no respect for any person that chooses to own a pit bull

Who are you trying to kid? You have no respect for anyone.

[Sidewinder]

I have no respect for any person that chooses to own a pit bull

I'll take it a step further: I don't know any normal middle-class person who owns a pit bull. They are the status symbol of white trash and black thugs. If that sounds harsh, so be it.