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    Quote Originally Posted by AntiMoon View Post
    No no no! Can't carry Andino's .290 OBP and .310 Slg as a 3rd basemen
    Why not? They were carrying Mark Reynold's -.9 WAR.

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    I still prefer Reynolds at 3B to Andino. He's a 2nd half power hitter. Ideally Roberts will be DH, with Andino at 2B, Reynolds at 3B and Davis/Betemit/Johnson at 1B.

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    I think many fans are underestimating what stable defensive 3b play has brought to the O's. Tolleson has been pretty good over there, and you're seeing better play overall in the field from the team because of it.

    It will be nice to see what Reynolds can do for them when he comes back, but he's not really a solution to any of the O's needs.
    Andino could work full time, but you don't get max value out of him at that position.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oriole Dave View Post
    I wish that Dude guy was still around to work out theoretical trades
    Short answer: Dempster and LaHair from CHC, Mike Young from TEX.

    Also.....tell BRob to start working out in LF in Bowie....LF would be easier on him physically and mentally....and with Reimold ???.....gives you a change to keep Andino at 2B and let BRob lead-off (I'm still skeptical on his return, but we'll see).

    LF Avery/Reimold/BRob
    RF Markakis
    3B Young
    DH LaHair

    CF Jones
    C Wieters
    SS Hardy
    1B Davis (sign 3+2)
    2B Andino (sign 3+2)

    Dempster
    Arrieta
    Chen
    Hammel
    Matusz

    Hunter to the bullpen

    Longer answer:

    The Cubs are out of the race and Demspter (14M) is a $$ drag on the team. They get nothing out of him in draft pick compensation and there should be a fair number of pitchers on the market diluting the in trade for most of them. Theo is never afraid to pull the trigger and he's looking for money and prospects. LaHair is 29 and just holding a spot for Rizzo (who's killing the ball at AAA). Rizzo would liklely already be there if LaHair wasn't hitting the ball so well too.....they've already protected Rizzo's service time and possibly Super2 (some rule changes there). If you get Rizzo up soon, he'll still have a shot at RoY.

    Agree to take the money. Schoop is the Orioles only top100 not named Bundy or Machado and if you extend Andino to a 3+2(team options), then 2B is still covered for up to 5 years. Pomeranz has looked good. Hoes gives them another "BAL Top10" guy ('value') and maybe one of the 6 pitchers from last draft top 10 picks not named Bundy (Wight, Simon, Taylor, Howard, Jones, Wilson....all doing fairly well)

    Dempster and LaHair for Schoop, Pomeranz, Hoes, Trent Howard ('11 #7....I think you have to do him as a PTBNL)
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    The Rangers are loaded with RHed bats and Mike Young, displaced off 3B by Beltre seems like the off fit. The Rangers could be better served by a quality LHed 1B/DH bat. Young isn't staying there after next season and if they could move his salary, they'd free up some resources for Hamilton. Young is 16M this season and next with 3M each year deferred.

    The Twins are done. I read something that said they aren't interested in moving Morneau, but that seems ridiculous since they need so many things including prospects and salary relief. Morneau is 14M this season and next and isn't likely in the Twins plans beyond next season. Given JMs uncertainly (various injuries) he may be inclined to sign a team friendly deal (even re-work 2013) for both security and opportunity, both which he could get in Texas.

    There could be some minor prospect pieces to this, but most simply it's...
    TEX gets Morneau
    MIN gets Reynolds
    BAL get Young (MIN pays deferred $$)

    Reynolds could play 1B/3B/DH in MIN where he'll likely re-establish his value and the Twins could move him/salary for prospects (better than they'd likely get for Morneau) at the July deadline.
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    I don't usually come over here much....if you were just being sarcastic, apologies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dude View Post
    I don't usually come over here much....if you were just being sarcastic, apologies.
    Where the heck did ya go?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oriole Dave View Post
    True, if Roberts and Reimold can prove they are healthy you think they'd part with Andino or Avery? If they could pick up a proven player at 3rd or 1st they could part with Reynolds or Davis? I wish that Dude guy was still around to work out theoretical trades
    Avery? Are you serious? Reynolds or Reimold are limited at best when and if healthy, but Avery has proven to be the real deal and is the future and producing now. That's what I would have expected from PA several years ago; mortgage the future. Avery, Jones, Weiters, Markakos are the core.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TeamofSTEEL View Post
    Avery? Are you serious? Reynolds or Reimold are limited at best when and if healthy, but Avery has proven to be the real deal and is the future and producing now. That's what I would have expected from PA several years ago; mortgage the future. Avery, Jones, Weiters, Markakos are the core.
    Bit of a stretch to say Avery has proven himself as the real deal in what less than a month? Been lots of players that came up on a tear that fizzled out. If he can keep it up all year and into next year I might believe it but not yet. Don't get me wrong I hope he does continue his great play but just too early for me.


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