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    Quote Originally Posted by Balt Observer View Post
    Let's get real here. It's impossible to win a national election without some form of "pandering". Agree or disagree?
    This may turn out to be the strangest election on record.

    I just wonder if the "anyone but Obama" vote is as large as the "anyone but a Bu****e Republican" vote of 4 years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zenwalk View Post
    Realism? Anyone wanting to know in quickly understandable terms what Bain does here's an instructional video:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reiq4lEvnEw
    America would not be the economic powerhouse it is without firms like Bain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Far from home View Post
    This may turn out to be the strangest election on record.

    I just wonder if the "anyone but Obama" vote is as large as the "anyone but a Bu****e Republican" vote of 4 years ago.
    A lot of the people that got duped into voting for Obama in 2008 are eager to correct their mistake this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balt Observer View Post
    Let's get real here. It's impossible to win a national election without some form of "pandering". Agree or disagree?
    What's important to me is where a particular candidate stands on various issues. With Romney, the only issues that he doesn't dither from are issues I abhor. Where does he stand on any issue? If he is running for POTUS, the American people should know by now, no?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NCBirdfan View Post
    What's important to me is where a particular candidate stands on various issues. With Romney, the only issues that he doesn't dither from are issues I abhor. What issues does he really stand? If he is running for POTUS, the American people should know by now, no?
    That's just part of the liberal media myth. If you want to know where Romney stands on various issues, the facts are out there to peruse. Start on his website.

    During the debates, his positions will be more widely disseminated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balt Observer View Post
    A lot of the people that got duped into voting for Obama in 2008 are eager to correct their mistake this year.
    LOL...the censor blocked my "Bush ite".

    Back to your statement...I'm not advocating for Obama when I say this, but the worst way a President is through a "don't vote for stupid" mentality.

    It gives the incoming guy too much wiggle room to ignore his mandate and go for personal pet projects.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NCBirdfan View Post
    What's important to me is where a particular candidate stands on various issues. With Romney, the only issues that he doesn't dither from are issues I abhor. Where does he stand on any issue? If he is running for POTUS, the American people should know by now, no?
    Exactly.

    ...and honesty has gone by the wayside in that regard.

    See Obama's pre-Biden stance on gay marriage as an example.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balt Observer View Post
    That's just part of the liberal media myth. If you want to know where Romney stands on various issues, the facts are out there to peruse. Start on his website.

    During the debates, his positions will be more widely disseminated.
    I will not vote him anyway, so it is of little use for me to go to his site. As far as the debates, they have become useless and not worth my time. Everyone knows that the debates are not really debates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by octoburn View Post
    I agree. Romney knows that he cannot win if he sticks to the issues and takes the more difficult ethical stance rather than stand up to the birther movement and The Donald.
    McCain was a very principled and ethical man, and it got him nowhere.

    If you're going to make a difference, you first have to win the election.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NCBirdfan View Post
    I will not vote him anyway, so it is of little use for me to go to his site. As far as the debates, they have become useless and not worth my time. Everyone knows that the debates are not really debates.
    Well there you go. If your mind is already made up, why do you care what Romney's stances are?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balt Observer View Post
    Well there you go. If your mind is already made up, why do you care what Romney's stances are?
    I once thought Romney would possibly be a good candidate, but he has taken the John McCain road to campaigning. And out of all the GOP candidates this year, he is by far not the worse one. However, if he continues to be afraid to show his true self, he really doesn't deserve anyone's vote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balt Observer View Post
    McCain was a very principled and ethical man, and it got him nowhere.

    If you're going to make a difference, you first have to win the election.
    Principled? Not during his presidential campaign. His VP choice is also what doomed McCain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NCBirdfan View Post
    Principled? Not during his presidential campaign. His VP choice is also what doomed McCain.
    McCain doomed McCain as well as the party as a whole. When you are left with Balto Observer as the only core supporter for your candidate, you are in deep trouble.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zenwalk View Post
    McCain doomed McCain as well as the party as a whole. When you are left with Balto Observer as the only core supporter for your candidate, you are in deep trouble.
    I am Romney's only core supporter? Do you really believe the crap that you write?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NCBirdfan View Post
    I once thought Romney would possibly be a good candidate, but he has taken the John McCain road to campaigning. And out of all the GOP candidates this year, he is by far not the worse one. However, if he continues to be afraid to show his true self, he really doesn't deserve anyone's vote.
    He is a good candidate. It is still relatively early in the campaign, and I am sure he will continue to differentiate himself from Obama as the months go on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NCBirdfan View Post
    If that is being the same as a flip-flopper, then I agree. The problem with Romney is that no one knows where he stands on the issues from one day or another, save the "don't tax the rich" and "Corporations are people" rhetoric.
    Hey! That's not fair. Romney has changed his position on flip-flopping. Now he's etch-a-sketching.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balt Observer View Post
    He is a good candidate. It is still relatively early in the campaign, and I am sure he will continue to differentiate himself from Obama as the months go on.
    If he were truly a man of principle, then surely he should know and declare where he stands NOW on issues and his stand shouldn't abruptly change the closer it gets to the election. No, he is neither a good candidate, nor a principled one. He is just a candidate the GOP settled on because they believe he is the best possible candidate to defeat Obama.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NCBirdfan View Post
    If he were truly a man of principle, then surely he should know and declare where he stands NOW on issues and his stand shouldn't abruptly change the closer it gets to the election. No, he is neither a good candidate, nor a principled one. He is just a candidate the GOP settled on because they believe he is the best possible candidate to defeat Obama.
    Again, you're talking about the myths that the liberal machine is trying to plant. Romney does know where he stands on the issues, and he states them regularly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balt Observer View Post
    I am Romney's only core supporter? Do you really believe the crap that you write?
    The cheese stands alone if this forum is a fair representation and you just support him for the troll value.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zenwalk View Post
    The cheese stands alone if this forum is a fair representation and you just support him for the troll value.
    If you think this forum is a fair representation of society, then you have spent far too much time on it.

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