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    Quote Originally Posted by Balt Observer View Post
    McCain was a very principled and ethical man, and it got him nowhere.

    If you're going to make a difference, you first have to win the election.
    Then we are in agreement that Romney will say or do anything to get elected president, even if it means deliberately ignoring principles and the ethics of those he now embraces

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    Quote Originally Posted by octoburn View Post
    Then we are in agreement that Romney will say or do anything to get elected president, even if it means deliberately ignoring principles and the ethics of those he now embraces
    No, not anything.

    That is the state of the political battlefield today. You have to play by the current rules. If you play by the rules that worked in the 70's or 80's, you have no chance.

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    What do you think Mitt the Mexican promised Trump for all this? An Ambassadorship?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balt Observer View Post
    Again, you're talking about the myths that the liberal machine is trying to plant. Romney does know where he stands on the issues, and he states them regularly.
    If they are myths, then tell me some specific issues he stands for. Surely you are behind him 100%. Why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by michiganjoe View Post
    Willard oozes weakness and has a spine the consistency of oatmeal. If he can't stand up to the fringe elements in his own party how can he stand up to the enemies of America? It's a dangerous world and the country can't afford to take that risk.
    how is all that Hope and change working out for the finge elements in your party? Talk about spineless......Obama-Biden....The teleprompter and gaffe machine ticket in 2012

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    Quote Originally Posted by soulflower View Post
    Why can't Romney just say 'no' to appearing in public with Trump? Why doesn't he stand up to the extremists and crazies in his party?
    Why didn't Obama just say 'no' to appearing in public with Bill Ayers, the Rev Wright, the Commie Van Jones or Jonathan Lavine, who is an Obama bundler with a direct connection to the Ampad plant-closing while at Bain. Why doesn't obama stand up to the extremists and crazies in his party?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NCBirdfan View Post
    If they are myths, then tell me some specific issues he stands for. Surely you are behind him 100%. Why?
    If you're really interested then look at this summary of some of his positions.

    http://www.mittromney.com/sites/defa...th-Summary.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balt Observer View Post
    If you're really interested then look at this summary of some of his positions.

    http://www.mittromney.com/sites/defa...th-Summary.pdf
    I thought you were a huge supporter of Romney. You should be able to present some reasons why you personally support his campaign and not keep trying to send me to his website. I want to know why YOU support him. Why do YOU think he will be a good POTUS?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NCBirdfan View Post
    I thought you were a huge supporter of Romney. You should be able to present some reasons why you personally support his campaign and not keep trying to send me to his website. I want to know why YOU support him. Why do YOU think he will be a good POTUS?
    I voted for Obama in 2008. Like most voters, I first look at my personal situation when deciding who to vote for. While things have gotten marginally better since early 2009, I think that a better job could have been done. If Obama's economic performance had been outstanding and my personal situation had improved dramatically as a result, I would probably have little reason to vote for someone else.

    As you know, Obama was running on "Hope and Change" in 2008. Obama was supposed to be a different kind of politician. I think it's pretty easy to see now that that was not the case. He's proven to be just a standard politician, and the divisiveness that we see now is among the worst in recent memory. Some will argue otherwise, but I can't see how Obama can't take some of the blame for that.

    I like a lot of Romney's positions, particularly on things like repealing Obamacare, which provides no benefit for me. I truly believe that he will put the country on a better track than Obama has.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balt Observer View Post
    I voted for Obama in 2008. Like most voters, I first look at my personal situation when deciding who to vote for. While things have gotten marginally better since early 2009, I think that a better job could have been done. If Obama's economic performance had been outstanding and my personal situation had improved dramatically as a result, I would probably have little reason to vote for someone else.

    As you know, Obama was running on "Hope and Change" in 2008. Obama was supposed to be a different kind of politician. I think it's pretty easy to see now that that was not the case. He's proven to be just a standard politician, and the divisiveness that we see now is among the worst in recent memory. Some will argue otherwise, but I can't see how Obama can't take some of the blame for that.

    I like a lot of Romney's positions, particularly on things like repealing Obamacare, which provides no benefit for me. I truly believe that he will put the country on a better track than Obama has.
    No one I know can give me specific reasons why they like Romney either. Your answer is typical of what I get from them. When I ask about issues they immediately go into anti-Obama rants - just like you just did. I guess the only reason they like him is because he has an 'R' behind his name.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NCBirdfan View Post
    No one I know can give me specific reasons why they like Romney either. Your answer is typical of what I get from them. When I ask about issues they immediately go into anti-Obama rants - just like you just did. I guess the only reason they like him is because he has an 'R' behind his name.
    Anti-Obama rants? I certainly wouldn't consider my last post a rant. What's wrong with criticizing Obama? And yes, my Obama criticisms are certainly part of the reason I'm supporting Romney.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balt Observer View Post
    I like a lot of Romney's positions, particularly on things like repealing Obamacare, which provides no benefit for me.
    So something has to benefit you personally before you consider it worthwhile?
    Quote Originally Posted by Balt Observer View Post
    I truly believe that he will put the country on a better track than Obama has.
    What has he proposed will do that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balt Observer View Post
    If you're really interested then look at this summary of some of his positions.

    http://www.mittromney.com/sites/defa...th-Summary.pdf
    Nothing lazy about that reply.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EmDot View Post
    So something has to benefit you personally before you consider it worthwhile?
    I expected some reply like that.

    Why should I consider Obamacare worthwhile if I never intend to be in a position to need it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balt Observer View Post
    Again, you're talking about the myths that the liberal machine is trying to plant. Romney does know where he stands on the issues, and he states them regularly.
    What myth? The reason people say they don't know where Romney stands on the issues is because on just about every issue he's had every stance you can take. So, how are we to know that what he says now is true given the fact that at some point he's said the complete opposite? The man is a serial liar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balt Observer View Post
    I voted for Obama in 2008. Like most voters, I first look at my personal situation when deciding who to vote for. While things have gotten marginally better since early 2009, I think that a better job could have been done. If Obama's economic performance had been outstanding and my personal situation had improved dramatically as a result, I would probably have little reason to vote for someone else.

    As you know, Obama was running on "Hope and Change" in 2008. Obama was supposed to be a different kind of politician. I think it's pretty easy to see now that that was not the case. He's proven to be just a standard politician, and the divisiveness that we see now is among the worst in recent memory. Some will argue otherwise, but I can't see how Obama can't take some of the blame for that.

    I like a lot of Romney's positions, particularly on things like repealing Obamacare, which provides no benefit for me. I truly believe that he will put the country on a better track than Obama has.
    On the divisiveness issue I'm sorry but that falls squarely on the shoulders of the Republicans. They have clearly stated that their main goal was making Obama a one term president... and their actions have clearly indicated that they are dead serious about that because they've put defeating Obama above everything else.

    As to repealing Obamacare, how can you possibly hold that up as a reason to vote for Romney? If anything that should only reinforce what kind of a liar the guy really is. He had Romneycare in MA and is on record as saying that he thought Romneycare was a great model for the rest of the country. And now... he's saying the exact opposite. How can you possibly support a man who lies like Geroge Costanza on steroids?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balt Observer View Post
    I expected some reply like that.

    Why should I consider Obamacare worthwhile if I never intend to be in a position to need it?
    Really? Is that really the way you think? Says alot.

    Just for the record, I'm sure that the majority of people on welfare or receiving some form of government assistance never intended to be in a position to need it

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    Quote Originally Posted by banner1124 View Post
    What myth? The reason people say they don't know where Romney stands on the issues is because on just about every issue he's had every stance you can take. So, how are we to know that what he says now is true given the fact that at some point he's said the complete opposite? The man is a serial liar.
    Sorry, but that's just more of the liberal rhetoric talking. And it's obviously a gigantic exaggeration to say he's had every stance you can take on just about every issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by banner1124 View Post
    On the divisiveness issue I'm sorry but that falls squarely on the shoulders of the Republicans. They have clearly stated that their main goal was making Obama a one term president... and their actions have clearly indicated that they are dead serious about that because they've put defeating Obama above everything else.

    As to repealing Obamacare, how can you possibly hold that up as a reason to vote for Romney? If anything that should only reinforce what kind of a liar the guy really is. He had Romneycare in MA and is on record as saying that he thought Romneycare was a great model for the rest of the country. And now... he's saying the exact opposite. How can you possibly support a man who lies like Geroge Costanza on steroids?
    I figured that there would be many people here who would consider Obama blameless for what's going on. That's partisanship for you.

    I don't know all the details about Romneycare, but one of the tenets of Romney's position is that the states should have the power to make their own determination of what system works best for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by banner1124 View Post
    Really? Is that really the way you think? Says alot.

    Just for the record, I'm sure that the majority of people on welfare or receiving some form of government assistance never intended to be in a position to need it
    I don't like handouts, especially undeserved ones, and I especially don't like to pay for them.

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