What happend to these underachieving programs

[agentorange]

1. BCC........Cant beat Dunbar or Poly...question marks galore despite
what i think is top DC in the metro area. I'm not a
Freind of the Jedi today and the Knights are fair game.
I'm tired of answering questions i cannot answer
Altho i think the answer is as simple as Petrides
bringing in a good OC.

2.LOYOLA.....Why are the glory days gone...what happened.

3.ARUNDEL....Cant beat Old Mill or win a state championship despite
Record setting Offense.

4.ST JOES......Not that anything big was or is expected but daaayumm
St Joes, you have an enrollment of 5 billion gazillion boys.
Cmon maaaaaan.

5.MCDONOGH....This is the 6th year in the ongoing epic saga of the great
eagles rize to glory and dominance....ok, enough is enough
what the hell is the holdup. Theres plenty of doe for
Recruiting.

6. Annapolis.....The fastest growing metro area in the state outside of
Frederick and the panthers are still 5-5 each year...help
me out.

[GREYHOUND ALUM]

1. BCC........Cant beat Dunbar or Poly...question marks galore despite
what i think is top DC in the metro area. I'm not a
Freind of the Jedi today and the Knights are fair game.
I'm tired of answering questions i cannot answer
Altho i think the answer is as simple as Petrides
bringing in a good OC.

2.LOYOLA.....Why are the glory days gone...what happened.

3.ARUNDEL....Cant beat Old Mill or win a state championship despite
Record setting Offense.

4.ST JOES......Not that anything big was or is expected but daaayumm
St Joes, you have an enrollment of 5 billion gazillion boys.
Cmon maaaaaan.

5.MCDONOGH....This is the 6th year in the ongoing epic saga of the great
eagles rize to glory and dominance....ok, enough is enough
what the hell is the holdup. Theres plenty of doe for
Recruiting.

6. Annapolis.....The fastest growing metro area in the state outside of
Frederick and the panthers are still 5-5 each year...help
me out.

McDonogh is making some moves. They are my favorite to win the MIAA in 2013. They will have two Gilman transfers and both have the potential to be superstars. MSJ also is making serious moves. Loyola, anything question.

[eaglesinsider]

The biggest thing that has kept McDonogh from becoming a dominant program is the fact that they have been on the wrong end of lots of close games. If some of those swung the other way, there would be a different conversation about McD.

2004- 6-3 (losses by 3,4,7 pts)
2005- 6-3 (losses by 8,10,28 pts)
2006- 6-3 (losses by 5,6,7 pts)
2007- 6-4 (losses by 3,3,7,39 pts)
2008- 4-6 (losses by 1,3,7,7,16,31 pts)
2009- 8-2 (losses by 2,7 pts)
2010- 6-4 (losses by 1,1,13,38)
2011- 6-5 (losses by 1,3,6,7,10)

Total wins 2004-2011: 48
Total losses 2004-2011: 30
Losses by 8 pts or less: 22

If McD had managed to pull out those close games, they'd be averaging 9 wins a season and would be discussed as a dominant team.

I don't know what a doe has to do with recruiting, but you're right, there are plenty of does at McDonogh, the woods are full of them.

[agentorange]

McDonogh is making some moves. They are my favorite to win the MIAA in 2013. They will have two Gilman transfers and both have the potential to be superstars. MSJ also is making serious moves. Loyola, anything question.

I have listened to the "the eagless are making big moves jargon" since 06....

[agentorange]

The biggest thing that has kept McDonogh from becoming a dominant program is the fact that they have been on the wrong end of lots of close games. If some of those swung the other way, there would be a different conversation about McD.

2004- 6-3 (losses by 3,4,7 pts)
2005- 6-3 (losses by 8,10,28 pts)
2006- 6-3 (losses by 5,6,7 pts)
2007- 6-4 (losses by 3,3,7,39 pts)
2008- 4-6 (losses by 1,3,7,7,16,31 pts)
2009- 8-2 (losses by 2,7 pts)
2010- 6-4 (losses by 1,1,13,38)
2011- 6-5 (losses by 1,3,6,7,10)

Total wins 2004-2011: 48
Total losses 2004-2011: 30
Losses by 8 pts or less: 22

If McD had managed to pull out those close games, they'd be averaging 9 wins a season and would be discussed as a dominant team.

I don't know what a doe has to do with recruiting, but you're right, there are plenty of does at McDonogh, the woods are full of them.

Countless tough loss's such as the ones pointed out here means that the eagles have what it takes to win talent wize but they are getting outcoached"

[2K10Terp]

1. BCC........Cant beat Dunbar or Poly...question marks galore despite
what i think is top DC in the metro area. I'm not a
Freind of the Jedi today and the Knights are fair game.
I'm tired of answering questions i cannot answer
Altho i think the answer is as simple as Petrides
bringing in a good OC.

2.LOYOLA.....Why are the glory days gone...what happened.

3.ARUNDEL....Cant beat Old Mill or win a state championship despite
Record setting Offense.

4.ST JOES......Not that anything big was or is expected but daaayumm
St Joes, you have an enrollment of 5 billion gazillion boys.
Cmon maaaaaan.

5.MCDONOGH....This is the 6th year in the ongoing epic saga of the great
eagles rize to glory and dominance....ok, enough is enough
what the hell is the holdup. Theres plenty of doe for
Recruiting.

6. Annapolis.....The fastest growing metro area in the state outside of
Frederick and the panthers are still 5-5 each year...help
me out.

Don't think its time for the knights to find a new OC, but maybe a new Head coach. Petrides should have hung it up years ago but we all know he was not going to leave especially with a new field being put on the hill. Sadly he wont leave until he sees fit because he is the athletic director and he wont fire himself.

[Gryphon 7598]

Ao I am surprised. Ok I will give you Poly. We have let some wins go with that team . But let's get down to the truth of it . City college is not the City of old and let be serious they don't get the talent they us to . The knight always have skilled position players Qb, WR, RB, DB but city college issue is offensive and defensive lineman. They don't have the size in the trenches to beat the dunbar's of the world.

[agentorange]

Don't think its time for the knights to find a new OC, but maybe a new Head coach. Petrides should have hung it up years ago but we all know he was not going to leave especially with a new field being put on the hill. Sadly he wont leave until he sees fit because he is the athletic director and he wont fire himself.

I kinda see where u are coming from but ur wrong on the turf thing...That was something that just landed in the hands of Bcc...it had no bearing whatsoever on wether George stays or go.....George is certainly not that trivial of a guy...

[agentorange]

Ao I am surprised. Ok I will give you Poly. We have let some wins go with that team . But let's get down to the truth of it . City college is not the City of old and let be serious they don't get the talent they us to . The knight always have skilled position players Qb, WR, RB, DB but city college issue is offensive and defensive lineman. They don't have the size in the trenches to beat the dunbar's of the world.

Ime far more sirprised then u are...totally shocked that i gotta say something u deem as stupid or inaccurate just to get my freind to talk or communicate with me....whats up with u man...

[golflover0311]

McDonogh is making some moves. They are my favorite to win the MIAA in 2013. They will have two Gilman transfers and both have the potential to be superstars. MSJ also is making serious moves. Loyola, anything question.

Speaking of Gilman transfers be on the lookout for Ricardo LLiano. I watched this kid at Hamilton last year and at the rate he is growing and progressing in his training he has the potential to make some serious noise as a linebacker

[golflover0311]

Ime far more sirprised then u are...totally shocked that i gotta say something u deem as stupid or inaccurate just to get my freind to talk or communicate with me....whats up with u man...

Ok guys. This ain't the forum for this. Lets take it off the board

[GREYHOUND ALUM]

Speaking of Gilman transfers be on the lookout for Ricardo LLiano. I watched this kid at Hamilton last year and at the rate he is growing and progressing in his training he has the potential to make some serious noise as a linebacker

Yeah he's 1 of the 2 transfers to McDonogh I was speaking of. I was just saying to someone that he is going to be a monster in the future. With him and Wyatt Cook, McDonogh will be very strong in the LB position for a couple of years.

McDonogh is pretty loaded with some young stars. With Montgomery from Gilman, Justin Hawkins, Akeem Myers, Cook, Ricardo and the super rising frosh Eric Burrell, they will have the most talent that they ever have had in one team in 2013. Obviously a lot will depend on development but I have them as early favorites.

[92 Card]

McDonogh is making some moves. They are my favorite to win the MIAA in 2013. They will have two Gilman transfers and both have the potential to be superstars. MSJ also is making serious moves. Loyola, anything question.

MSJ serious moves? Do tell... You also omitted Calvert Hall and Spalding. Are you saying you think 2013 is going to come down to McDonogh, Gilman and MSJ?

[lord_baltimore]

MSJ serious moves? Do tell... You also omitted Calvert Hall and Spalding. Are you saying you think 2013 is going to come down to McDonogh, Gilman and MSJ?

I've heard about some transfers to MSJ. New D-Coordinator as well.

[GREYHOUND ALUM]

MSJ serious moves? Do tell... You also omitted Calvert Hall and Spalding. Are you saying you think 2013 is going to come down to McDonogh, Gilman and MSJ?

I think 2013 will be between McDonogh, CH and Gilman. I mean a lot has to do with development of players and we will know a lot more this year. Especially in MSJ case. I haven't heard much about Spalding to be honest.

Like I said, McD is my early favorite with what they will have. CHC will have a lot of young starters this year and I think this will ultimately help them next year. Which is also the reason why I feel Gilman runs away with the A title easily this year. Too many horses returning and the 2 new additions are major. They will also keep Gilman in the hunt in 2013 but Gilman will have a lot of questions on defense. Especially at LB!

[mop]

Does MCD have enought lineman? Remember, you can't run or pass if you can't block. My take: They have a lot of returning skill players at WR and DB and Cook is a solid LB. Counting on 9th graders or underclassman transfers to fill starting spots is not a good policy. Depth and skill in the junior and senior classes drive the success of a football team, not touted 9th or 10th grade recruits.

[GREYHOUND ALUM]

Does MCD have enought lineman? Remember, you can't run or pass if you can't block. My take: They have a lot of returning skill players at WR and DB and Cook is a solid LB. Counting on 9th graders or underclassman transfers to fill starting spots is not a good policy. Depth and skill in the junior and senior classes drive the success of a football team, not touted 9th or 10th grade recruits.

Your point about touting young recruits is the exact reason why I pick them in 2013 and not this year. Those young recruits like Cook, Hawkins and Myers will all be juniors and 3 year Varsity players. Montgomery coming from Gilman will be a juniors this year and senior in 2013. He has serious talent but will need to stay healthy.

Now linemen will be an issue for them. But they have really good position coaches. They will not have serious size, they never do but try are all sound technique wise. They seem to be a program that has a great conditioning program. Now like I said, I have to see how these kids progress this year. But one thing is for certain, they will be extremely fast. This much I do know!

[mop]

Yes MCD is and will be fast. But remember, its not seven on seven in high school. My view on MCD is they don't have a well disciplined team based lifting program. Their view on football is chuck it and let the fast guys run under it. Not much defensively against the run either. They get killed by teams who have size, strength and speed (Gilman). MCD excels against teams like Loyola (who has been slow recently). Just my opinion.

[eaglesinsider]

Yes MCD is and will be fast. But remember, its not seven on seven in high school. My view on MCD is they don't have a well disciplined team based lifting program. Their view on football is chuck it and let the fast guys run under it. Not much defensively against the run either. They get killed by teams who have size, strength and speed (Gilman). MCD excels against teams like Loyola (who has been slow recently). Just my opinion.

No, McDonogh does not have any mandatory lifting at all. One of Coach Dom's favorite sayings is "the guy with the biggest bench press is usually the worst player on the team."

However, they have always been capable of running on the unprepared. Evan Grant went for over 200 on Loyola in 2010 and he's not even playing college football.

No, McDonogh hasn't beaten Gilman since 2008, but it is not fair to say their getting "killed" by them. The only bad loss was in 2010. The losses in 2009 and 2011 were by 7 and 10 points respectively. The 2009 game was one of the best HS games I have ever seen.

The 2010 team was possibly the most overachieving team in McD history, they would have won 8 games if not for terrible kicking. I would bet money that not one person on the board could identify their 3rd and 4th WRs (starters in McDs offense) in 2010. Do the names David Williams, Kyle Simmons, and Austin Berg ring any bells? Those were McD's 3/4 WRs in 2010 who contributed a total of less than 10 catches and 1 TD in 10 games. Add to that a new starting QB (Jorgensen), a new starting RB (Grant), new 1/2 WRs (Walker, Weems, Crump), and a new C and RG. They replaced all their skill positions on offense as well as K/P and about 1/2 the defense and still won 6 games.

The 2011 team on the other hand, underachieved disappointingly. They had many more returning players and should have won more games.

[Outside Looking In]

No, McDonogh does not have any mandatory lifting at all. One of Coach Dom's favorite sayings is "the guy with the biggest bench press is usually the worst player on the team."

However, they have always been capable of running on the unprepared. Evan Grant went for over 200 on Loyola in 2010 and he's not even playing college football.

No, McDonogh hasn't beaten Gilman since 2008, but it is not fair to say their getting "killed" by them. The only bad loss was in 2010. The losses in 2009 and 2011 were by 7 and 10 points respectively. The 2009 game was one of the best HS games I have ever seen.

The 2010 team was possibly the most overachieving team in McD history, they would have won 8 games if not for terrible kicking. I would bet money that not one person on the board could identify their 3rd and 4th WRs (starters in McDs offense) in 2010. Do the names David Williams, Kyle Simmons, and Austin Berg ring any bells? Those were McD's 3/4 WRs in 2010 who contributed a total of less than 10 catches and 1 TD in 10 games. Add to that a new starting QB (Jorgensen), a new starting RB (Grant), new 1/2 WRs (Walker, Weems, Crump), and a new C and RG. They replaced all their skill positions on offense as well as K/P and about 1/2 the defense and still won 6 games.

The 2011 team on the other hand, underachieved disappointingly. They had many more returning players and should have won more games.

No mandatory lifting program? I am actually shocked to hear that. I think the comraderie of a football team is in what is done in the offseason specifically the weight room.