What should be done about Syria?

[Daan]

Oded Yinon's essay makes it all perfectly clear. Whatever happens in the Middle East is according to plan and benefits Israel.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Cook
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In 2008, Cook authored Israel and the Clash of Civilizations: Iraq, Iran and the plan to remake the Middle East, published by Pluto Press.[10] Of the book, Antony Loewenstein wrote that, "Cook bravely skewers the mainstream narrative of a Jewish state constantly striving for peace with the Palestinians." According to Lowenstein, Cook argues that Israel "pursues policies that lead to civil war and partition," and that this idea of dissolving many of the nations of the Middle East, shared by the neocons and the Bush administration, was developed by Israel's security establishment in the 1980s.[11] Cook discusses an essay authored by Oded Yinon and published by the World Zionist Organisation in 1982 which advocated for Israel's transformation into a regional imperial power via the fragmentation of the Arab world, "into a mosaic of ethnic and confessional groupings that could be more easily manipulated" (p. 107). A review of the book in The Jordan Times called it, "well-researched and very readable."[12]

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[Daan]

A Strategy for Israel in the Nineteen Eighties
by Oded Yinon

From the forword by Isarel Shahak :

"The following essay represents, in my opinion, the accurate and detailed plan of the present Zionist regime (of Sharon and Eitan) for the Middle East which is based on the division of the whole area into small states, and the dissolution of all the existing Arab states."

http://cosmos.ucc.ie/cs1064/jabowen/...le0005345.html

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[jrob]

A Strategy for Israel in the Nineteen Eighties
by Oded Yinon

From the forword by Isarel Shahak :

"The following essay represents, in my opinion, the accurate and detailed plan of the present Zionist regime (of Sharon and Eitan) for the Middle East which is based on the division of the whole area into small states, and the dissolution of all the existing Arab states."

http://cosmos.ucc.ie/cs1064/jabowen/...le0005345.html

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Looks like the evil zionist plot was thwarted as usual, as the US has been actively strengthening Iranian influence for several years.

Not to mention the absurdity of Israel commandeering US media to blame neocon Jooos for the US's pro-Islamist warmongering.

[Daan]

With this letter the Neocons are advising Bush on Bin Laden, Iraq, Iran, and Syria and on increasing America's defense budget.

http://www.newamericancentury.org/Bushletter.htm


The usual Neocons, Zionists, and IsraelFirsters signing.

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[Daan]

Highly recommend this book.

The Transparent Cabal: The Neoconservative Agenda, War in the Middle East, and the National Interest of Israel by Stephen J. Sniegoski


Good review:
http://mepc.org/create-content/book-...nterest-israel
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In this well-written, well-organized book, Stephen J. Sniegoski makes some compelling arguments about neoconservatives: (1) they were the driving force behind the Bush administration’s war in Iraq, (2) their motivation was based on their belief that American interests in the Middle East are virtually identical with the Israeli Likud party’s beliefs about Israeli interests in the region, and (3) these mutual interests lie in destabilizing Israel’s adversaries and reconfiguring the environment rather than in the traditional American policy of stabilizing the Middle East. Others have plowed this same ground, but Sniegoski has marshaled a prodigious amount of evidence and added some new elements. He notes that these arguments have often elicited charges of anti-Semitism, particularly from neoconservatives themselves.

The author provides a good definition of neoconservatives: primarily Jewish individuals who began as liberals and leftists but migrated to the right in the late 1960s and early 1970s.

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[jrob]

Highly recommend this book.

The Transparent Cabal: The Neoconservative Agenda, War in the Middle East, and the National Interest of Israel by Stephen J. Sniegoski

...The author provides a good definition of neoconservatives: primarily Jewish individuals who began as liberals and leftists but migrated to the right in the late 1960s and early 1970s.[/INDENT]End Quote


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Daan, do you think that the Muslim countries epitomize Koranic values?

[beeg jacques]

Oded Yinon's essay makes it all perfectly clear. Whatever happens in the Middle East is according to plan and benefits Israel.

Baby Assad is indiscriminately exterminating thousands and thousands of his own citizens (just like Daddy Assad did), and he parrots the "blame Israel" justification, just like his Iranian masters do.

Quite the coincidence that Daan is also ardently promoting that excuse

[Daan]

Media Propagates Myth of Israel’s Non-Involvement in Syria


http://thepassionateattachment.com/2...ment-in-syria/
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The reality, however, is that the self-described Jewish state has plenty of options available to it to influence the outcome of the “upheaval” destabilizing its northern neighbour [Syria]. [Israel's] most effective option is, of course, the influence it is able to exert over U.S. policy. As Haim Saban, a prominent “influencer,” once told an Israeli conference, there are “three ways to be influential in American politics” — make donations to political parties, establish think tanks, and control media outlets.

The think tank part of Saban’s tripartite Israel-protection formula was initiated in 2002 with a pledge of nearly $13 million to the Brookings Institution to establish the Saban Center for Middle East Policy. In 2007, the Saban Center expanded operations with the launch of the Brookings Doha Center. Its Qatar-based project was inaugurated in February 2008 by the founding director of the Saban Center, Martin Indyk. A former research director at the American-Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC), Indyk had previously founded the AIPAC-created Washington Institute for Near East Policy (WINEP).

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Who is Haim Saban ?

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[Daan]

Nothing that Khalilzad or anybody else from the 1980's did back then or in 2003, left an armada of American ships, equipment and thousands of American troops, stranded off the coast of Turkey just days before our planned invasion of Iraq, jrob. The Pentagon run by Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz, did that all on their own. And for you to even suggest otherwise jrob, underlines the ridiculousness of your post and the state of your very obviously brainwashed mind.

Who is this Khalilzad character and what about his family?

Zalmay is married to Cheryl Benard (reportedly Jewish) and they have two sons, Alexander and Maximilian (not very Muslim names) and since their mother is Jewish, then they are Jewish.

Alexander goes by the name "Alexander Benard", not "Khalilzad" (why is that?).

Alexander once worked at the U.S. Defense Dept. and at WINEP ( a Washington based pro-Israel think tank).

The Zalmay/Benard clan are pro-Israel NeoCons.


Interesting Link:
http://www.gryphon-partners.com/our-team/

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[Byng]

There are no two dots jrob isn't able to connect.

The problem for jrob and the other Israel Firsters is that the State of Israel is no longer the most important and decision making regional power in the Middle East and Israel albeit still an ally and a friend of the United States has less and less strategic value to the United States.

The Middle East has become a power struggle between Russia and China on one side (most of the time) and the United States on the other side.

Russia wants to be the influential super power in Syria to retain the use of Syria's Mediterranean warm water ports for its continued expansion of its Blue Water Navy and its rise back to super-power status on the back of its oil and other natural resources wealth. While China's interest in the area remains primarily commercial.

What I see possibly happening is a trade-off between the 3 super-powers (Russia, China and the United States) where Russia and China, join with the United States on solving our current problem over the Nuclear issue in Iran, while in return we (The United States) accept that Russia take the lead role in Syria to find a solution there and hence retain the use of Syria's warm water ports, while the US retains its current bases in the Gulf.

It is a win/win for the 3 super-powers in that Iranian oil continues to flow to China, (Russia does not need Iranian oil); the United States gets itself out of a War with Iran on behalf of Israel by removing the Iranian Nuclear threat, which also keeps the Gulf Oil States happy and our bases there more secure. And the Russians basically get the mess in Syria which they are more than willing to take on in return for continued use of Syria's warm water ports.

The loser of course will be Syria in that the Russians may well get rid of Assad for them but Russia will definitely want to replace Assad with either a military government or at least a combination of military and secular civilian government because there is no way an Islamist Government gets in while Russia is calling the shots!

[beeg jacques]

Media Propagates Myth of Israel’s Non-Involvement in Syria


http://thepassionateattachment.com/2...ment-in-syria/
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The reality, however, is that the self-described Jewish state has plenty of options available to it to influence the outcome of the “upheaval” destabilizing its northern neighbour [Syria]. [Israel's] most effective option is, of course, the influence it is able to exert over U.S. policy. As Haim Saban, a prominent “influencer,” once told an Israeli conference, there are “three ways to be influential in American politics” — make donations to political parties, establish think tanks, and control media outlets.

The think tank part of Saban’s tripartite Israel-protection formula was initiated in 2002 with a pledge of nearly $13 million to the Brookings Institution to establish the Saban Center for Middle East Policy. In 2007, the Saban Center expanded operations with the launch of the Brookings Doha Center. Its Qatar-based project was inaugurated in February 2008 by the founding director of the Saban Center, Martin Indyk. A former research director at the American-Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC), Indyk had previously founded the AIPAC-created Washington Institute for Near East Policy (WINEP).

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Who is Haim Saban ?

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It's always so convenient to blame Israel for the slaughter of Arabs by their own leadership.

Who knew that citizens of Arab countries such as Syria were perfectly content to live under the thumb of brutal oppressive regimes?

Apparently Israel is even behind Iran sending over Iranian forces to assist the Syrian army with it's vicious and deadly crackdown.

[Daan]

The problem for jrob and the other Israel Firsters is that the State of Israel is no longer the most important and decision making regional power in the Middle East and Israel albeit still an ally and a friend of the United States has less and less strategic value to the United States.

The Middle East has become a power struggle between Russia and China on one side (most of the time) and the United States on the other side.

Russia wants to be the influential super power in Syria to retain the use of Syria's Mediterranean warm water ports for its continued expansion of its Blue Water Navy and its rise back to super-power status on the back of its oil and other natural resources wealth. While China's interest in the area remains primarily commercial.

What I see possibly happening is a trade-off between the 3 super-powers (Russia, China and the United States) where Russia and China, join with the United States on solving our current problem over the Nuclear issue in Iran, while in return we (The United States) accept that Russia take the lead role in Syria to find a solution there and hence retain the use of Syria's warm water ports, while the US retains its current bases in the Gulf.

It is a win/win for the 3 super-powers in that Iranian oil continues to flow to China, (Russia does not need Iranian oil); the United States gets itself out of a War with Iran on behalf of Israel by removing the Iranian Nuclear threat, which also keeps the Gulf Oil States happy and our bases there more secure. And the Russians basically get the mess in Syria which they are more than willing to take on in return for continued use of Syria's warm water ports.

The loser of course will be Syria in that the Russians may well get rid of Assad for them but Russia will definitely want to replace Assad with either a military government or at least a combination of military and secular civilian government because there is no way an Islamist Government gets in while Russia is calling the shots!

"While China's interest in the area remains primarily commercial." - Byngo


http://www.foreignpolicy.com/article...decomments=yes
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In about a week, the Afghan Ministry of Mines will announce that the China National Petroleum Corp. (CNPC) -- the largest state-owned Chinese company -- has won the rights to develop and explore several oil fields in the Amu Darya basin in northern Afghanistan.

How was CNPC able to win a tender for such a strategic resource in a country where the United States wields tremendous influence? Amazingly, one reason is that the U.S. Defense Department, whose Task Force on Business and Stability Operations, which is charged with resuscitating the economies of Afghanistan and Iraq, designed and oversaw a tender process that played to the strengths of Chinese state-owned companies over Western private ones.

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And this article was written by -

"Alexander Benard is managing director of Gryphon Partners, an advisory and investment firm focused on the Middle East and Central Asia. He previously worked at the U.S. Defense Department. Eli Sugarman is a Truman fellow and senior director of Gryphon Partners. He previously worked at the U.S. State Department."

[Byng]

"While China's interest in the area remains primarily commercial." - Byngo


http://www.foreignpolicy.com/article...decomments=yes
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In about a week, the Afghan Ministry of Mines will announce that the China National Petroleum Corp. (CNPC) -- the largest state-owned Chinese company -- has won the rights to develop and explore several oil fields in the Amu Darya basin in northern Afghanistan.

How was CNPC able to win a tender for such a strategic resource in a country where the United States wields tremendous influence? Amazingly, one reason is that the U.S. Defense Department, whose Task Force on Business and Stability Operations, which is charged with resuscitating the economies of Afghanistan and Iraq, designed and oversaw a tender process that played to the strengths of Chinese state-owned companies over Western private ones.

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And this article was written by -

"Alexander Benard is managing director of Gryphon Partners, an advisory and investment firm focused on the Middle East and Central Asia. He previously worked at the U.S. Defense Department. Eli Sugarman is a Truman fellow and senior director of Gryphon Partners. He previously worked at the U.S. State Department."

Fiendishly clever, these Chinese!