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    Quote Originally Posted by QB1SDAD View Post
    I appreciate the input as well as the advice on where and who can help him.
    I can appreciate the excitement in promoting your son, but Big Sky gave good advice, in doing so you open a can of worms. AO made good points about mechanics that I would like to add to. Good basic skills with need of improvement in most areas. The spread offense allows QB's to develop bad footwork or conversely never develop proper footwork as a dropback QB. As AO stated, many if not most throws were flat footed or off his heels. That is why so many deep balls were underthrown. He obviously has a strong arm for his age which can be a curse as he can get away with throws now that as he progresses in levels of competition he will not be able to do any longer. I will make a comparison to a young pitching prospect. Many young pitchers with live arms never learn how to pitch until they are older because they rely on their heat. Those without the live arms learn to pitch earlier to survive.

    I saw Bobby Sabelhaus's name mentioned in that his throwing motion was messed up by Steve Spurrier. Partially true in that his throwing motion was messed up but not by Spurrier, he barely ever worked with him, It was messed up to begin with and everyone tried to fix it. Plus Bobby's issues were more than just football. The reason I commented on Bobby though was he also had the low carry and big wind up your son has. This will work at lower levels of competition, but at the next level those throws become incompletions or interceptions. I have been working with QB's for over 30 years on every level from HS to Pro, but this is just my view. You will get others from various posters here.

    Good luck with his progress and if I can help, let me know.

    To sum up in one sentence, your son has a lot to work with, and a lot to work on.

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    Again I appreciate the critics,BUT that was before he worked with a QB coach(ANTHONY Wright)working 2-3times a week.I was a 1 game edited hi-lite video.He has talent a great work ethic and wants to get better.I did'nt say he was anything,but a 15 yr old qb. thats moving up here.Thanks to all that have had positive things to say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by QB1SDAD View Post
    I appreciate the input as well as the advice on where and who can help him.
    I don't wanna blow your cover, but I know big bro knows Brant pretty well. I am sure he could help in a few areas, even if he doesn't end up at LB. He is a good guy, as you already know. I think they have a couple of young QB's in Evans (c/o 2015) and a another QB from the Harco Horns coming in as a freshman in August. All of that is a moot point right now b/c they have a senior QB returning. I am sure there will be an open competition for the job next August. Regardless of who they have, or don't have, I do not think it would hurt to try to contact Brant. Especially since there is a personal connection. BTW, did he ever buy those Cardinal & Gold cleats? :-)

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    Whats up 92?He designed them but never ordered...lol.I spoke to Brant,he's interested!! Working on logistics more then anything else.He would look good in them though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fylde5 View Post
    I can appreciate the excitement in promoting your son, but Big Sky gave good advice, in doing so you open a can of worms. AO made good points about mechanics that I would like to add to. Good basic skills with need of improvement in most areas. The spread offense allows QB's to develop bad footwork or conversely never develop proper footwork as a dropback QB. As AO stated, many if not most throws were flat footed or off his heels. That is why so many deep balls were underthrown. He obviously has a strong arm for his age which can be a curse as he can get away with throws now that as he progresses in levels of competition he will not be able to do any longer. I will make a comparison to a young pitching prospect. Many young pitchers with live arms never learn how to pitch until they are older because they rely on their heat. Those without the live arms learn to pitch earlier to survive.

    I saw Bobby Sabelhaus's name mentioned in that his throwing motion was messed up by Steve Spurrier. Partially true in that his throwing motion was messed up but not by Spurrier, he barely ever worked with him, It was messed up to begin with and everyone tried to fix it. Plus Bobby's issues were more than just football. The reason I commented on Bobby though was he also had the low carry and big wind up your son has. This will work at lower levels of competition, but at the next level those throws become incompletions or interceptions. I have been working with QB's for over 30 years on every level from HS to Pro, but this is just my view. You will get others from various posters here.

    Good luck with his progress and if I can help, let me know.

    To sum up in one sentence, your son has a lot to work with, and a lot to work on.
    I agree wth the stuff about Sablehause...Spurrier had nothing to do with messing anything up...Sablehause was big, pure pocket qb with a slow release or big windup...his 6 foot 5 frame gave him more time to see the feild and it was his undoing at Florida because he had become accustomed to taking his time to pass the ball....If you guys can recall, i think at the time Spurrier was working with Bobby, He had alot of run and shoot elements to his offense and such a thing relies on a qb with a quick release...Spurrier simply wanted Bobby to get rid of the ball quicker and move thru his progressions more fluidly...Bobby was also struggling with depression and bi polar issues ath time and I think playing D1 ball was a bit too much for him...

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    Quote Originally Posted by agentorange View Post
    I agree wth the stuff about Sablehause...Spurrier had nothing to do with messing anything up...Sablehause was big, pure pocket qb with a slow release or big windup...his 6 foot 5 frame gave him more time to see the feild and it was his undoing at Florida because he had become accustomed to taking his time to pass the ball....If you guys can recall, i think at the time Spurrier was working with Bobby, He had alot of run and shoot elements to his offense and such a thing relies on a qb with a quick release...Spurrier simply wanted Bobby to get rid of the ball quicker and move thru his progressions more fluidly...Bobby was also struggling with depression and bi polar issues ath time and I think playing D1 ball was a bit too much for him...
    From an article from earlier this year, Bobby said that he was all set to go to Michigan and at the last moment chose Florida over Michigan. After Bobby told Michigan he was not coming there they gave a scholarship to a guy named Tom Brady. Very ironic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by agentorange View Post
    I agree wth the stuff about Sablehause...Spurrier had nothing to do with messing anything up...Sablehause was big, pure pocket qb with a slow release or big windup...his 6 foot 5 frame gave him more time to see the feild and it was his undoing at Florida because he had become accustomed to taking his time to pass the ball....If you guys can recall, i think at the time Spurrier was working with Bobby, He had alot of run and shoot elements to his offense and such a thing relies on a qb with a quick release...Spurrier simply wanted Bobby to get rid of the ball quicker and move thru his progressions more fluidly...Bobby was also struggling with depression and bi polar issues ath time and I think playing D1 ball was a bit too much for him...
    I tried to help Bobby by getting him back close to home after his journey out west. I met a few times with Ron Vanderlinden and his QB coach Ron Johnson. They were considering giving him a shot but they decided against the "two for one deal" they wanted nothing to do with his dad and they knew that wasn't going to happen. His father was one of the worst problems he had. He wouldn't let anyone work on his throwing flaws. I sat in their living room discussing colleges with them and all dad talked about was the fastest route to the NFL. Bobby never even took a single college snap it was such a shame, good kid, way to much bad advice.

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