Jonathan Pollard may be pardoned by Obama on June 18

[jrob]

What would happen if he were released? Other traitors would be emboldened. And justice not served.

Like I said: stop with the lame appeals to ignorance and Orwellian nonsense and tell us exactly what type of calamity would occur were he to be released.

Are you afraid that do something that would hinder the US multi-billion dollar annual tax flow to Islamist regimes in Iraq, Afghanistan, or Pakistan?

Are you afraid that he'd liberate blacks from leftwing pets like Sharpton??

What exactly are you so scared of that you deem him a 'danger if released'??

[regularguy]

Are you afraid that he'd liberate blacks from leftwing pets like Sharpton??

Ah; that must be it!

[Daan]

Like I said: stop with the lame appeals to ignorance and Orwellian nonsense and tell us exactly what type of calamity would occur were he to be released.

Are you afraid that do something that would hinder the US multi-billion dollar annual tax flow to Islamist regimes in Iraq, Afghanistan, or Pakistan?

Are you afraid that he'd liberate blacks from leftwing pets like Sharpton??

What exactly are you so scared of that you deem him a 'danger if released'??

Pollard should have been executed. Pollard will automatically be parolled in 2015 and that's a travesty.

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Former FBI and navy lawyer M.E. "Spike" Bowman, top legal adviser to navy intelligence at the time, and with intimate knowledge, of the Pollard case, has issued a detailed critique of the case for clemency, asserting "Because the case never went to trial, it is difficult for outside observers to understand the potential impact and complexity of the Pollard betrayal. There is no doubt that Pollard was devoted to Israel. However, the extent of the theft and the damage was far broader and more complex than evidenced by the single charge and sentence."[86]

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All of the arguments for releasing Pollard are wrong


Pollard has never applied for parole because in his mind he did nothing wrong and wants to be exonerated (his innocence restored) with a pardon.


You so-called dual citizens are actually Israel Firsters whose first loyalty is to Israel and Zionism. A "fifth column" made up of individuals who would rather see Israel interests prevail over America's.

"Fifth Column":

A key tactic of the fifth column is the secret introduction of supporters into the whole fabric of the entity under attack.[2] This clandestine infiltration is especially effective with positions concerning national policy and defense.[2] From influential positions like these, fifth-column tactics can be effectively utilized, from stoking fears through misinformation campaigns, to traditional techniques like espionage.[2]

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[jrob]

Pollard should have been executed. Pollard will automatically be parolled in 2015 and that's a travesty.

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Former FBI and navy lawyer M.E. "Spike" Bowman, top legal adviser to navy intelligence at the time, and with intimate knowledge, of the Pollard case, has issued a detailed critique of the case for clemency, asserting "Because the case never went to trial, it is difficult for outside observers to understand the potential impact and complexity of the Pollard betrayal. There is no doubt that Pollard was devoted to Israel. However, the extent of the theft and the damage was far broader and more complex than evidenced by the single charge and sentence."[86]

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All of the arguments for releasing Pollard are wrong

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'Former Intelligence Officers'?? How comical that they all dispense the institutional Jewhatred held by their bosses while they were gainfully employed.

We know that Pollard's acts were harmless because those diabolical Israelis have been unable to pull off another 'Liberty' type attack. We know that the US government's obsession with torturing Pollard has harmed Americans because it's taken resources away from preventing the deaths of Americans at the hands of Pollard's jihadist enemies.

Every dollar spent rooting out dual-loyalty Jews is a dollar that could have been spent trying to save Americans from Nidal Hassan, Muhammad Atta, etc.

For a more objective take see David Turner's blog.

[ms maggie]

Like I said: stop with the lame appeals to ignorance and Orwellian nonsense and tell us exactly what type of calamity would occur were he to be released.

Are you afraid that do something that would hinder the US multi-billion dollar annual tax flow to Islamist regimes in Iraq, Afghanistan, or Pakistan?

Are you afraid that he'd liberate blacks from leftwing pets like Sharpton??

What exactly are you so scared of that you deem him a 'danger if released'??

I don't know if any calmity would occur. He would probably scurry off to Israel. I scarcely see him "liberating" anyone--he is barely articulate.

That is not the point, he committed a crime, he does the time.

[johnpolitics]

What would happen if he were released? Other traitors would be emboldened. And justice not served.

It's after June 18 and the no good traitor MF is still in prison.

Samual Huntington from Harvard has written about the dangers and lack of loyalty issues related to dual citizenship.

Based on the Zionist nuts logic John Hinckley Jr. should be released.

The mod needs to stick a fork in this thread!

[jrob]

I don't know if any calmity would occur. He would probably scurry off to Israel. I scarcely see him "liberating" anyone--he is barely articulate.

That is not the point, he committed a crime, he does the time.

Why would you say that he's barely articulate?? Do you know more about the effects of the torture he's undergone than I know?

Or are you merely characterizing him in a dehumanizing manner for some reason?

[AttackPlanR]

Link to him being tortured?

Face it, if he were for any other country besides Israel, he'd be dead. Same crime, different punishment.

[jrob]

Link to him being tortured?

Face it, if he were for any other country besides Israel, he'd be dead. Same crime, different punishment.

I read a CIA press release where unnamed officials stated that they were unable to deny that they were trying to cover up the waterboarding of Pollard.

It would be laughably absurd to think that he's not being waterboarded, if the fears of Ms. Maggie, Cyhmn and others are entirely rational.

[AttackPlanR]

Well, I have read a CIA press release where unnamed officials stated that there was nothing to cover up regarding any water boarding of Pollard.

[jrob]

Well, I have read a CIA press release where unnamed officials stated that there was nothing to cover up regarding any water boarding of Pollard.

And if they are to be believed, then Pollard is clearly not a danger to anyone.

Thus, what's with your (and the others') sadistic need to keep him in prison forever, when he's clearly not a danger to Americans?

[regularguy]

And if they are to be believed, then Pollard is clearly not a danger to anyone.

Maybe he should be treated like Mordechai Vanunu, who had the audacity to admit that Israel has a substantial arsenal of nuclear weapons... which everyone already knew.

After being kidnapped from Italy by the Mossad, he was kept in solitary confinement for 18 years. Since his release, Vanunu has been essentially under house arrest - prohibited from using a phone or the internet, from having contact with anyone other than Israeli citizens, and from trying to leave the country.

[jrob]

Maybe he should be treated like Mordechai Vanunu, who had the audacity to admit that Israel has a substantial arsenal of nuclear weapons... which everyone already knew.

After after being kidnapped from Italy by the Mossad, he was kept in solitary confinement for 18 years. Since his release, Vanunu has been essentially under house arrest - prohibited from using a phone or the internet, from having contact with anyone other than Israeli citizens, and from trying to leave the country.

do you or don't you think that Pollard is being waterboarded?

[regularguy]

do you or don't you think that Pollard is being waterboarded?

I have no idea. Do you think Vanunu was?

[jrob]

I have no idea. What do you think?

Of course he is.

And why don't you oppose it just as you oppose the waterboarding of those that actually kill US civilians?

[regularguy]

Of course he is.

Do you think Vanunu was waterboarded?

[jrob]

Do you think Vanunu was waterboarded?

start a thread on Vanunu if you are so concerned. This thread is about Pollard.

Your refusal to address the waterboarding of Pollard is duly noted.

[regularguy]

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Your refusal to address the waterboarding of Pollard is duly noted.

Neither of us has any idea. What am I "refusing to address"?

[jrob]

Neither of us has any idea. What am I "refusing to address"?

Sure we have an idea. If he's a threat to Americans, then he's being waterboarded.

If you're not sure if he's a threat, then why do you sadistically want him in prison forever?

[AttackPlanR]

Who says he's being water boarded, besides you?