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    Quote Originally Posted by crabsnbeer View Post
    Did I say Otherwise?
    Shoulda thought that one through a little better, eh?

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    If I catch someone stealing my car I am not going to risk my life or the perp's life. Take the car if you want it. If I come home and find that my house has been robbed I'm not going to go looking for the person responsible. If I happen upon a man (or woman) sexually assaulting a baby, a todder -- a child -- I am fairly certain that only one of us will be left standing. I haven't been "seeing red" angry in many, many years when I had a horrible temper but there is little doubt that it would return under those circumstances.

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    Default Father kills his daughter's molester in Texas

    A FATHER in Texas has beaten a man to death after allegedly catching him molesting his four-year-old daughter in a barn.


    http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/tru...-1226392541216


    I love a nice feel good story


    This man deserves a parade

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    Ticker tape parade. One less scumbag that will cost taxpayers a fortune to prosecute.

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    I wouldn't call a little girl's getting molested a "feel good" story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    That's all you needed to say.

    You're either a fan of vigilante justice, or you're not.

    The rest is a personal judgement call.
    In my opinion, what happened here doesn't fall into the category of vigilante justice. This is a guy reacting on the spot to somone sexually assaulting his daughter. this isn't vigilante justice, this is acting to stop a crime in progress.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    And as a human being, I'd sympathize with you.

    But as a member of a society of law and order, I'd do everything I could to see you put behind bars for that.

    Either we, as individuals, have the right to be judge jury and executioners, or we don't.
    If this is a case that goes to trail, I'd suspect "temporary insanity" would be a valid defense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pepper View Post
    I read in another story that the dad regrets killing the perv. Not that he didn't deserve a beating, just that his intent was not to kill him.

    Thing is, if you can beat a man to death, you can beat him to within an inch and then hold him for the cops. I don't think this guy should be charged, but at the same time I'm not a supporter of vigillante justice.
    But then you weren’t watching a 47 year old man in the process of raping your 4 year old daughter. I imagine the only thing this guy was seeing was red at the time. Can’t blame him; I probably would have reacted in the same way.

    I'm not a supporter of vigillante justice either, but "justice" was probably the last thing on this guy's mind. His emotional state would have precluded his ability to think more clearly than removing the threat to his child.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CajunRaven View Post
    If this is a case that goes to trail, I'd suspect "temporary insanity" would be a valid defense.
    If this goes to trial in Texas with a jury of the father's "peers", I'd suspect the jury will condemn the prosecutor for bringing it to trial in the first place.

    If I remember correctly, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, the District Attorney is an elected position in Texas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    Yeah, you and pepper both.

    "I'm not a fan of vigilante justice, BUT..."

    Make up your freakin' mind.

    If you're not a fan of vigilante justice, then the person in question here should be applauded for stopping an assault.

    Then put in jail for murder.
    Your assumption that the father's reaction had anything to do with justice is illogical, to say the least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wild Eyed Southern Boy View Post
    If this goes to trial in Texas with a jury of the father's "peers", I'd suspect the jury will condemn the prosecutor for bringing it to trial in the first place.
    I don't know, compared to other states, Texas has an awful lot of child molesters who might wind up on the jury.

    http://www.familywatchdog.us/OffenderCountByState.asp

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    Quote Originally Posted by kudzu View Post
    And as a human being, I'd sympathize with you.

    But as a member of a society of law and order, I'd do everything I could to see you put behind bars for that.

    Either we, as individuals, have the right to be judge jury and executioners, or we don't.
    Might you not first want to stop him from molesting your child? Or would you have called 911 and waited for the police to arrive, because, after all, you are a member of a society of law and order?

    Get real.

    If I see a rabid dog snapping at one of my grandkids (or anyone else for that matter), I’ll shoot it dead first and then deal with the Humane Society and the people who don’t approve of discharging firearms inside the city limits later. And I don't have a damn thing against dogs.

    This guy didn’t even mean to kill the a-hole; it just happened that way because he wasn’t thinking too clearly at the moment. And I'm not sure who would be, given the circumstamces.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pepper View Post
    I read in another story that the dad regrets killing the perv. Not that he didn't deserve a beating, just that his intent was not to kill him.

    Thing is, if you can beat a man to death, you can beat him to within an inch and then hold him for the cops. I don't think this guy should be charged, but at the same time I'm not a supporter of vigilante justice.
    Have you ever tried that?

    When somebody knows they've done wrong and will be punished for it, they will fight you to get away and will use weapons if they possess them. To simply hold or detain somebody you have to physically outmatch and overpower them by a wide margin.

    It is simply easier to beat somebody into submission than detain them.

    Why do you think you always see multiple cops cuffing somebody laying on the ground?

    When a firearm is legally used to stop somebody from doing something criminal, it is just that, stopping their actions.

    If you are legally justified in using a firearm, whether or not death results from that is immaterial in the yes of the legal system.

    I'd think the same applies here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bullmikey View Post
    Your assumption that the father's reaction had anything to do with justice is illogical, to say the least.

    I agree. My first reaction would be to save my child.
    My children are my legacy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calamari View Post
    What would be arguably as bad is knowing that you supported it with your church tithes.
    Just couldn't help yourself, could you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calamari View Post
    I don't know, compared to other states, Texas has an awful lot of child molesters who might wind up on the jury.

    http://www.familywatchdog.us/OffenderCountByState.asp
    I seriously doubt any of those 68619 registered offenders will serve on any juries.

    I'd be more concerned with states like New Jersey (34 offenders).

    Apparently Texas lists an offender for the slightest incidence. Maybe Jersey doesn't take it that serious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mom49of4 View Post
    I agree. My first reaction would be to save my child.
    Of course, Mom. As would have been the reaction of any parent worth his or her salt. Goes without saying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bullmikey View Post
    But they you weren’t watching a 47 year old man in the process of raping your 4 year old daughter. I imagine the only thing this guy was seeing was red at the time. Can’t blame him; I probably would have reacted in the same way.

    I'm not a supporter of vigillante justice either, but "justice" was probably the last thing on this guy's mind. His emotional state would have precluded his ability to think more clearly than removing the threat to his child.
    you know, I'm tired of hearing the term vigilante justice thrown around so liberally.

    The father had legal grounds to behave the way he did, and I would (and most people would) argue the punishment fit the crime.
    child molesters/child rapists should be up for the death penalty. The amount of problems they cause for society and for the individuals whom they victimize are lifelong, whether it's the life of the individual or the criminal.

    This wasn't a mob going around tracking down some adult who was rumored of screwing the pastor's daughter - this was a father that caught the man in the act and cleaned up society.

    Obama needs to give this guy the medal of freedom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wild Eyed Southern Boy View Post
    I seriously doubt any of those 68619 registered offenders will serve on any juries.

    I'd be more concerned with states like New Jersey (34 offenders).

    Apparently Texas lists an offender for the slightest incidence. Maybe Jersey doesn't take it that serious.
    New Jersey is the reason we have Megan's Law.

    Link

    Too bad for poor little Megan Kanka they didn't take it that seriously back then either. She was killed by a three-time loser who should have been put away for life after the first time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wild Eyed Southern Boy View Post
    I seriously doubt any of those 68619 registered offenders will serve on any juries.

    I'd be more concerned with states like New Jersey (34 offenders).

    Apparently Texas lists an offender for the slightest incidence. Maybe Jersey doesn't take it that serious.

    I believe there are a number of "levels". But most people don't distringuish between the levels, and that can unnecessarily ruin a persons life.

    I read not too long ago that some teen was being charged with a level 3 (I believe) "sex offense" because he was urinating in public (ie, exposing his privates). Really? A "sex offense"? I bet there is not one male on this web site that hasn't pissed in a bush after having a few beers....

    Then there's the case of one teen "sexting" another teen...also charged with a sex offense.

    Or the 19 year old "touching" his 16 year old girlfriend. Some of these "sex offense" charges have gotten out of hand, IMO.


    IMO, these all should not be classed in the same category as the guy who molests minors, etc. They need a new term, or description that differentiates the true predators, from the teen doing what teens do...

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