What do you say?
What do you say?
If AJ is a 100, then everyone else is a 5 or 6.
If Jones keeps this up, then they'll be pretty close. Granderson gets the slight edge though.
Granderson's batting average is deceiving. He has a lower batting average than Jones but has a career .345 OBP with several seasons over .360. He walks more than Mark Reynolds, and nearly 3 times as much as Jones.
He steals a decent number of bases, something Jones has never done. Though Jones does have 9 so far which is a good pace.
Granderson is also a better fielder. His career fielding percentage is about 10 points higher. Jones has a better arm, though. According to Sports Illustrated Jones is the worst center fielder of all starters in terms of getting to the ball.
Those are the stats. You might think that Jones is better in some intangible way, fine. But in terms of stats, fielding and hitting, Granderson is somewhat better.
Jones should pass Granderson here in a few years though, Grandy isn't getting any younger.
I didn't realize Granderson was 31, I thought he was a little younger than that. Looking at offensive comparison charts on fangraphs by age, Jones is about even with or better than what Granderson did. That bodes for Jones well going forward but obviously future projections mean nothing until you actually achieve them.
Of course there is no question that Granderson is the better all around player, but being that this question is being asked by an Orioles fan to mostly Orioles fans I知 sure that somehow, even if the numbers prove them to be wrong, many on here will choose Jones because he is the hometown boy. I have o doubt that if the Orioles could swap Jones for Granderson right now straight up fans on here would be delirious at the news!!
Granderson has been better to this point, although at the moment, Jones has Granderson by a mile in OPS. Regardless, Jones should surpass him within the next few years.
Actually, Jones' career arc is looking similar to Granderson's.
Last edited by Slidemaster; 06-15-2012 at 02:24 AM.
Curt and its not even close.
AJ is better in fantasy baseball. I have Granderson and it seems like all he does is strikeout or hit home runs.
Granderson is probably the better player at this point in the game.
First off, there are a lot of Nats fans that come to this site. As exhibited by you, there are also fans of other teams that come here.
Actually, I was going to say Granderson is still better, but that Jones stats are largely better - and that probably won't be the case for long.
I find it interesting that a Yankees' fan can say "no question" without even taking the time to compare the age and the performance of the actual players.
Granderson has never done what AJ has done this season in the clutch.
AJ is currently a superior defender to Grandy - fangraphs has AJ 5.0 to Grandy -10.4 in fielding rating. Also, Granderson has only been positive once since 2007.
Baseball reference has AJ's range factor at 2.78 this season, and Granderson's at 2.18. AJ's has been consistently higher throughout his career, even when you do direct age comparison (which you can't really do because AJ was a regular at a younger age).
AJ has a GG - where's Granderson's? Oh that's right, it doesn't exist.
AJ was an AS by age 23....Granderson took to age 28.
Granderson at 25 - .773 OPS (during the end of the steroid era), and AJ at 25 - .783 OPS.
This season - AJ .306/18/39/.933
Grandy - .254/19/36/.870
I'm not really seeing where you get the "clearly" from, and I sure as hell wouldn't swap AJ for Grandy - although I'm sure Yanks fans would lineup for that trade.
Facts are up to this year Granderson was clearly the better all around player.
Facts are Jones has gotten better every year. This may well be his breakout season where he becomes a SUPERSTAR every year. But hey don't even take a look.
Facts are.....look at who we're dealing with. JOE FOOL slash Yankee troll
Jones is younger right? If so i take Jones. Jones is entering his prime
update: AL leaders in WAR
there you go. Jones' years from 28-32 should be his best
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