Last year's FUMA PG team played:
Hargrave Military (PG)
Louisburg College (JUCO)
St. Francis PA (FCS-JV)
Hampton CC (JUCO)
Valley Forge Military (PG)
Wagner College (FCS-JV)
Gray Military (PG)
Hargrave Military (PG)
Seriously you guys have nothing better to do than get on here and discredit a bunch of kids who do nothing but work hard from any wins they "may" get? Besides the fact you are flat wrong on many of your assumption and rumor mongering.. IF ECA was in MIAA now they would have to change very little.. As for FLASH it is a business which has more kids participating that do not go to ECA as ones that do. Yes the ECA kids do their workouts together and the other members to their later in the evening..
Let me tell you my sons normal day and you tell me how anything he is doing a kid from CHC or Gilman cant do..
I will start with during school right after football season... The kids that play basketball or wrestle go do that.. The kids that don't will start the weight gaining and putting on mass lifting during the winter.. He goes to school from 8am until 2:30pm after school he goes to FLASH (4 days a week not every day) Mon-Thurs 3 to 5..
In the spring they (FLASH) starts incorporating the speed and conditioning into the weight lifting... They go 3 to 4:30 to the FLASH building then they go to a park and do running stuff.. Some days its sprints some days they run 3 miles.. some days they do cones and sparq type stuff... if there is a 7on7 that week the 7on7 team will practice for an hour at that two or maybe three days a week.... Currently in the summer like today my son went kayaking and swimming with his buddies in town then at 3 he goes to FLASH .. works out for an hour and a half then goes to the park and did 7on7 practice for an hour.. Tomorrow they are off... they also get a couple weeks off right after school gets out, and also a couple more times this summer for family vacations and all...
Now when you want to talk about recruiting and all lets face it.. They don't really get many of the so called "superstar" kids.. Many of those kids don't want to commit to do the work.. They come to FLASH a couple times and you never see them again LOL It takes a certain kid to want to do this. A hungry kid with a strong desire to work to be great.. I wont kid you though FLASH is intense and hard.. Many kids don't want to do it and they blow out..
I wont pretend to say what other schools do in the summer or what workouts they are doing but I am sure some others work just as hard as we do.. particularly down south..
That Arkansas team that beat US and CHC in the Kiper 7on7 last summer was like 77-0 in 7on7's Texas has a whole summer 7on7 league with state championships.. We don't play more 7on7's than anyone.. We have only played 4 tournament so far this year.. I think we will play 7 total.. we start actual football practice Aug 1st... If all that give us an advantage so what.. people can make whatever excuses they want.. to be great at something you have to work hard at it... Thats what these kids do.. they work hard to achieve their goal of getting to college.. Thats it... we wont appologize for that ever..
AS far as whether our model is successful or not well we have 21 kids with D1 offers .. Our goals are as they always have been.. To get kids to college so far we are on our way to achieve that goal.. Winning football games is secondary... Sure we want to win every game but what we want is our kids to compete and to compete against the best.. win or lose... we may go 8-2 , 2-8 , 10-0 whatever as long as kids go to college we win...
Last edited by harcohorns; 06-21-2012 at 05:46 PM.
And I promise you, if you guys join the MIAA or the state association, the kids will not be allowed to train year round at their coaches business. He will either have to step down as a coach or step down from his business. It's a conflict of interest. what your doing is a clear advantage. I don't care because I don't believe the hype until I see it in the field. But you can't say it's not an advantage. I mean come on. You have people saying that privates have an advantage over publics in Maryland because they start practice four days before them. You don't believe this isn't an advantage?
I think ECA wil be darn good this year their (red lion) dline last year was the best d line we faced all year bigger and better then gilmans even. But don't think they would take us this year. GC will be special this year
GC better worry about Gorman and Gilman. If you think Gilman will be easy because Jones is gone, you are highly mistaken. Cockerille had another big performance this past weekend in Vegas. He's proving that he is not only the best QB in the state but that he's one of the best in the country. The kid is lighting it up. And he will have weapons all over the field. Heard the most unheralded of the weapons Matt Tilley, had a huge performance at the Michigan Camp this weekend. He already has an offer from Navy and hear many more will be coming. And GC's secondary outside of Fuller is weak. With Robert Branch, Matt Tilley, Kai Locksely(Cyrus Jones heir apparent) and Troy Vincent as targets, WOW is all I can say!
as for the advantage?? depend on who were talking about .. Md teams or teams we play... we don't have an advantage over FLA teams that is for sure... They already have had spring practices and spring games and will practice all summer... I think we play 3 or 4 FLA teams this year....
Our theory is this... we don't compete against kids in Md or DE for scholarship dollars.. Most of those dollars go to kids in FLA, TEX, CAli. LA GA.. that is who we are competing against and we just do everything we can to give our kids those same opportunities and that is by working like they do.. Same thing next level has done for their kids... they even that playing field for scholarship dollars because the Md rules prohibit them..
I am not putting down what ECA is doing. It's working as far as offers go. I am just calling it like I see it. Right now and this season, ECA will have a distinct advantage over every team in the country including Florida teams. A two month advantage is still a big advantage.
if we win games because we work harder and longer than our oponents then so what... everything doesnt have to be fair and equal.. America is strongest when those who work harder acheive more...
there is NOTHING no rule preventing any MIAA team to do what we do except for a few minor tweeks where the coach may not be able to coach at certain times or we would have to cut an hour or two here and there... big deal... but whatever.. we have an advantage so what.. I am glad my kid has that advantage..
Last edited by harcohorns; 06-21-2012 at 07:23 PM.
I wish Gilman would have played ECA as well, I think it would be a good game that Gilman wins. Don't matter how many players you have with offers, Gilman coaches would out coach ECA coaches all day any day! And its not like Gilman doesn't have players with offers. They do and others like Robert Branch who I would put right now as a rising soph against any of the ECA kids with offers. Coming into the off season I felt that GC should be an overwhelmingly pick as Tops in Maryland, I still think they should but not by a very large margin. Gilman is stacked!
GC should be very good but they still could lose 2 games. I have GC-Gilman as a toss up and anybody's game. Dorian isn't a monster at LB. He's good but wasn't a game changer. He wasn't all over the field like Micah Kiser from Gilman. He needs to put on serious weight. He will be very good on coverage but has a hard time fighting off blocks.
Here are the rules.. Tell me which rule is being violated and not your assumption of practicing 7on7 for more than three hours because I was there you were not I know you don't... Show me where FLASH is any violation of these rules...
FYI.. the football activities in FLASH you see on the web page are a summer camp where they do position training and all... In the Past the position training was done my University of DE players... Even if the ECA coaches do the position training camp this summer that is still not a MIAA violation as it is the summer season...
XII. Out of Season Practice
First day of Fall practice through May 31st (School Year):
Coaches will be permitted to work with their team outside of the normal season, during the school year, for no more than three hours per week up until their seasonal start date. The three hour time period is voluntary for students and may include; agilities, practices, individual sessions, open gyms, games or contests during the week. Weekend club or rec team games/tournaments and weight training/conditioning activities are not included in this three hour limitation. The three hour time limit is cumulative for all coaches. (This includes Spring football) There are no out of season limitations for the individual sports to include: cross country, golf, squash, swimming, tennis and track.
June 1 through August 1 (Fall Sports)
June 1 through the Start of Fall Practice (All other Sports)
Fall teams – Summer begins June 1st and ends August 1st. During this time coaches can work with student athletes in any capacity. Workouts must be on a voluntary basis. The use of protective padding for football, blocking/tackling sleds or similar apparatus is prohibited and no contact is allowed. Camps are excluded. From August 1st thru the start date for Fall practices, Fall sports teams may utilize weight training and conditioning activities only. Any instruction, drills, scrimmages, station work or any activity involving equipment for that sport is prohibited.
Winter & Spring Sports teams – Summer begins June 1st and ends the first day of Fall practice. During this time coaches can work with student athletes in any capacity. The Fall sports start date signifies the end of summer and the beginning of the out of season practice limitations for Winter and Spring teams.
For clarification, a practice is defined as an organized gathering of student athletes, supervised by a coach or coaches, for the purpose of preparing for an athletic contest or to decide the numerical make-up of a team. Athletes participating on an in-season team cannot participate with another out of season team. Athletes may participate in two different “in-season” sports.
NLN doesn't do have whole organize team workouts in January. And believe me, there have been people inside of CHC that wanted Davis to get rid of the NLN contingent. Also Davis doesn't work with NLN.
Listen, I think what DT, ECA and Flash are doing is amazing! They are putting kids in school at a HIGH rate! I just know they have an advantage over other schools. But I hope ECA goes out and further puts Maryland on the map! and if Flash wasn't so far away from where my son lives, I would have him train with you guys!
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