IMG To field a High School Football team

[GREYHOUND ALUM]

Actually you did. I thought you might of had a a spy camera on my screen. Mine would of posted before yours if I didn't have that 1 finger typing style.LOL

Hahaha! We did say it at about the same time!

[eaglesinsider]

Watch out.... Your words might be ammo for an accusation of ducking ECA. LOL. I think the difference on the field between these types of schools and ECA is team continuity. IMG, Niagra, or other schools with 5th year players like Kiski Prep, Blair Academy, Wyoming Seminary, Fork Union Prep (Fafaul from Loyola played QB for them last year) and the other Prep Schools scattered across the Northeast have 5th year players for academic purposes or to increase their value as a college player. Some of the players may be physically advanced, but are all relatively new to their schools and the system in which they will be playing. Whereas ECA has a dozen or more NCAA Division 1 players who have been playing together as a whole longer than any high school team in the country I can think of. That's huge on any level, let alone high school.

Another thing to note about 5th year players is that a lot of schools, including Fork Union, field separate high school and PG (Post-Grad) teams. The high school teams play other high schools and the PG teams play a combination of other PG schools, JUCOs, college JV teams (most D3 schools still have them), the occasional regular high school, and start up programs from all divisions (South Alabama, who is going FBS this season, played 4 PG schools in their first season in 2009). So even if a school has PG players, they may not be playing regular high school kids, but rather kids their age or older in many cases

Last year's FUMA PG team played:
Hargrave Military (PG)
Louisburg College (JUCO)
St. Francis PA (FCS-JV)
Ashland (DII-JV)
Hampton CC (JUCO)
Valley Forge Military (PG)
Wagner College (FCS-JV)
Gray Military (PG)
Hargrave Military (PG)

[harcohorns]

Seriously you guys have nothing better to do than get on here and discredit a bunch of kids who do nothing but work hard from any wins they "may" get? Besides the fact you are flat wrong on many of your assumption and rumor mongering.. IF ECA was in MIAA now they would have to change very little.. As for FLASH it is a business which has more kids participating that do not go to ECA as ones that do. Yes the ECA kids do their workouts together and the other members to their later in the evening..

Let me tell you my sons normal day and you tell me how anything he is doing a kid from CHC or Gilman cant do..

I will start with during school right after football season... The kids that play basketball or wrestle go do that.. The kids that don't will start the weight gaining and putting on mass lifting during the winter.. He goes to school from 8am until 2:30pm after school he goes to FLASH (4 days a week not every day) Mon-Thurs 3 to 5..

In the spring they (FLASH) starts incorporating the speed and conditioning into the weight lifting... They go 3 to 4:30 to the FLASH building then they go to a park and do running stuff.. Some days its sprints some days they run 3 miles.. some days they do cones and sparq type stuff... if there is a 7on7 that week the 7on7 team will practice for an hour at that two or maybe three days a week.... Currently in the summer like today my son went kayaking and swimming with his buddies in town then at 3 he goes to FLASH .. works out for an hour and a half then goes to the park and did 7on7 practice for an hour.. Tomorrow they are off... they also get a couple weeks off right after school gets out, and also a couple more times this summer for family vacations and all...

Now when you want to talk about recruiting and all lets face it.. They don't really get many of the so called "superstar" kids.. Many of those kids don't want to commit to do the work.. They come to FLASH a couple times and you never see them again LOL It takes a certain kid to want to do this. A hungry kid with a strong desire to work to be great.. I wont kid you though FLASH is intense and hard.. Many kids don't want to do it and they blow out..

I wont pretend to say what other schools do in the summer or what workouts they are doing but I am sure some others work just as hard as we do.. particularly down south..

That Arkansas team that beat US and CHC in the Kiper 7on7 last summer was like 77-0 in 7on7's Texas has a whole summer 7on7 league with state championships.. We don't play more 7on7's than anyone.. We have only played 4 tournament so far this year.. I think we will play 7 total.. we start actual football practice Aug 1st... If all that give us an advantage so what.. people can make whatever excuses they want.. to be great at something you have to work hard at it... Thats what these kids do.. they work hard to achieve their goal of getting to college.. Thats it... we wont appologize for that ever..

AS far as whether our model is successful or not well we have 21 kids with D1 offers .. Our goals are as they always have been.. To get kids to college so far we are on our way to achieve that goal.. Winning football games is secondary... Sure we want to win every game but what we want is our kids to compete and to compete against the best.. win or lose... we may go 8-2 , 2-8 , 10-0 whatever as long as kids go to college we win...

[GREYHOUND ALUM]

Seriously you guys have nothing better to do than get on here and discredit a bunch of kids who do nothing but work hard from any wins they "may" get? Besides the fact you are flat wrong on many of your assumption and rumor mongering.. IF ECA was in MIAA now they would have to change very little.. As for FLASH it is a business which has more kids participating that do not go to ECA as ones that do. Yes the ECA kids do their workouts together and the other members to their later in the evening..

Let me tell you my sons normal day and you tell me how anything he is doing a kid from CHC or Gilman cant do..

I will start with during school right after football season... The kids that play basketball or wrestle go do that.. The kids that don't will start the weight gaining and putting on mass lifting during the winter.. He goes to school from 8am until 2:30pm after school he goes to FLASH (4 days a week not every day) Mon-Thurs 3 to 5..

In the spring they (FLASH) starts incorporating the speed and conditioning into the weigh lifting... They go 3 to 4:30 to the FLAHS building then they to a park and do running stuff.. Some days its sprints some days they run 3 miles.. some days they do cones and spark type stuff... if there is a 7on7 that week the 7on7 team will practice for an hour at that team two or maybe three days a week.... Currently in the summer like today my son wen kayaking and swimming with his buddies in town then at 3 he goes to FLASH .. works out for an hour and a half then goes to the park and did 7on7 practice for an hour.. Tomorrow they are off... they also get a couple weeks off right after school gets out, and also a couple more times this summer for family vacations and all...

Now when you want to talk about recruiting and all lets face it.. They don't really get many of the so called "superstar" kids.. Many of those kids don't want to commit and do the work.. They come to FLASH a couple times and you never see them again LOL It takes a certain kid to want to do this... I wont kid you though FLASH is intense and hard.. Many kids don't want to do it..

I wont pretend to say what other schools do in the summer or what workouts they are doing but I am sure some others work just as hard as we do.. particularly down south..

That Arkansas team that beat US and CHC in the Kiper 7on7 last summer was like 77-0 in 7on7's Texas has a whole summer 7on7 league with state championships.. We don't play more 7on7's than anyone.. We have only played 4 tournament so far this year.. I think we will play 7 total.. we start actual football practice Aug 1st... If all that give us an advantage so what.. people can make whatever excuses you want.. to be great at something you have to work hard at it... Thats what these kids do.. they work hard to achieve their goal of getting to college.. Thats it... we wont appologize for that ever..

AS far as whether our model is successful or not well we have 21 kids with D1 offers .. Our goals are as they always have been.. To get kids to college so far we are on our way to achieve that goal.. Winning football games is secondary... Sure we want to win every game but what we want is our kids to compete and to compete against the best.. win or lose... we may go 8-2 , 2-8 , 10-0 whatever as long as kids go to college we win...

In the MIAA there are RULES that prohibit the amount of time a kid can practice 7 on 7. Even rules of what you can do as an organized team. ECA doesn't have these rules, you can't tell me that they are going by MIAA or state association rules. No way are they. They are doing nothing wrong because they aren't breaking any rules. You also can't talk about Basketball and wrestling because that was at Red Lion not ECA. As fat as I know, ECA didn't start until Aroumd January. There was nothing to stop them to practice an train as a team from that point on. Your not even allowed to have mandatory lifting in the MIAA in the summer.

And I promise you, if you guys join the MIAA or the state association, the kids will not be allowed to train year round at their coaches business. He will either have to step down as a coach or step down from his business. It's a conflict of interest. what your doing is a clear advantage. I don't care because I don't believe the hype until I see it in the field. But you can't say it's not an advantage. I mean come on. You have people saying that privates have an advantage over publics in Maryland because they start practice four days before them. You don't believe this isn't an advantage?

[gc06]

I think ECA wil be darn good this year their (red lion) dline last year was the best d line we faced all year bigger and better then gilmans even. But don't think they would take us this year. GC will be special this year

[GREYHOUND ALUM]

I think ECA wil be darn good this year their (red lion) dline last year was the best d line we faced all year bigger and better then gilmans even. But don't think they would take us this year. GC will be special this year

Gilman's DL didn't play a great game against GC to be honest. But RL line wasn't better than Gilman. Bigelow was better than anybody at Gilman. And they were no where near as gig as Gilman. Poggi and Gaia were both 6'4 and Gaia about 300lbs. Goins was just small, that's it. I don't think ECA would beat GC either this year. But no way will GC be better this year than last. The lines will not even be close to as good as they were last year! And keep believing O'Daniel is as good as Wes Brown at RB. Brown was the reason Gilman lost to GC.

GC better worry about Gorman and Gilman. If you think Gilman will be easy because Jones is gone, you are highly mistaken. Cockerille had another big performance this past weekend in Vegas. He's proving that he is not only the best QB in the state but that he's one of the best in the country. The kid is lighting it up. And he will have weapons all over the field. Heard the most unheralded of the weapons Matt Tilley, had a huge performance at the Michigan Camp this weekend. He already has an offer from Navy and hear many more will be coming. And GC's secondary outside of Fuller is weak. With Robert Branch, Matt Tilley, Kai Locksely(Cyrus Jones heir apparent) and Troy Vincent as targets, WOW is all I can say!

[harcohorns]

In the MIAA there are RULES that prohibit the amount of time a kid can practice 7 on 7. Even rules of what you can do as an organized team. ECA doesn't have these rules, you can't tell me that they are going by MIAA or state association rules. No way are they. They are doing nothing wrong because they aren't breaking any rules. You also can't talk about Basketball and wrestling because that was at Red Lion not ECA. As fat as I know, ECA didn't start until Around January. There was nothing to stop them to practice an train as a team from that point on. Your not even allowed to have mandatory lifting in the MIAA in the summer.

And I promise you, if you guys join the MIAA or the state association, the kids will not be allowed to train year round at their coaches business. He will either have to step down as a coach or step down from his business. It's a conflict of interest. what your doing is a clear advantage. I don't care because I don't believe the hype until I see it in the field. But you can't say it's not an advantage. I mean come on. You have people saying that privates have an advantage over publics in Maryland because they start practice four days before them. You don't believe this isn't an advantage?

ECA will have a basketball and baseball team for sure.. Wrestling they are still working on that.. and I know they are trying to get a lacrosse guy in as well.. No we don't have to follow the MIAA rules or any BUT we still pretty much do... There are no rules that prohibit coaches coaching 7on7s and for how long in the Summer.. Between June 1st and Aug 1st .. any MIAA team can do everything we are doing and more they just choose not to... Before school lets out coaches in the MIAA can work with their kids for 3 hours a week.. which is what we do 2 to 3 hours of 7on7.. There are no rules in MIAA prohibiting coaches to be in the weight room only that they are not mandatory.. and really neither is ours.. Not every kid comes every day not every kid goes to all the 7on7s... Some kids play AAU hoops or travel baseball and they are out doing that..

as for the advantage?? depend on who were talking about .. Md teams or teams we play... we don't have an advantage over FLA teams that is for sure... They already have had spring practices and spring games and will practice all summer... I think we play 3 or 4 FLA teams this year....

Our theory is this... we don't compete against kids in Md or DE for scholarship dollars.. Most of those dollars go to kids in FLA, TEX, CAli. LA GA.. that is who we are competing against and we just do everything we can to give our kids those same opportunities and that is by working like they do.. Same thing next level has done for their kids... they even that playing field for scholarship dollars because the Md rules prohibit them..

[Big Sky]

Seriously you guys have nothing better to do than get on here and discredit a bunch of kids who do nothing but work hard from any wins they "may" get? Besides the fact you are flat wrong on many of your assumption and rumor mongering.. IF ECA was in MIAA now they would have to change very little.. As for FLASH it is a business which has more kids participating that do not go to ECA as ones that do. Yes the ECA kids do their workouts together and the other members to their later in the evening..

Let me tell you my sons normal day and you tell me how anything he is doing a kid from CHC or Gilman cant do..

I will start with during school right after football season... The kids that play basketball or wrestle go do that.. The kids that don't will start the weight gaining and putting on mass lifting during the winter.. He goes to school from 8am until 2:30pm after school he goes to FLASH (4 days a week not every day) Mon-Thurs 3 to 5..

In the spring they (FLASH) starts incorporating the speed and conditioning into the weight lifting... They go 3 to 4:30 to the FLASH building then they go to a park and do running stuff.. Some days its sprints some days they run 3 miles.. some days they do cones and sparq type stuff... if there is a 7on7 that week the 7on7 team will practice for an hour at that two or maybe three days a week.... Currently in the summer like today my son went kayaking and swimming with his buddies in town then at 3 he goes to FLASH .. works out for an hour and a half then goes to the park and did 7on7 practice for an hour.. Tomorrow they are off... they also get a couple weeks off right after school gets out, and also a couple more times this summer for family vacations and all...

Now when you want to talk about recruiting and all lets face it.. They don't really get many of the so called "superstar" kids.. Many of those kids don't want to commit to do the work.. They come to FLASH a couple times and you never see them again LOL It takes a certain kid to want to do this. A hungry kid with a strong desire to work to be great.. I wont kid you though FLASH is intense and hard.. Many kids don't want to do it and they blow out..

I wont pretend to say what other schools do in the summer or what workouts they are doing but I am sure some others work just as hard as we do.. particularly down south..

That Arkansas team that beat US and CHC in the Kiper 7on7 last summer was like 77-0 in 7on7's Texas has a whole summer 7on7 league with state championships.. We don't play more 7on7's than anyone.. We have only played 4 tournament so far this year.. I think we will play 7 total.. we start actual football practice Aug 1st... If all that give us an advantage so what.. people can make whatever excuses they want.. to be great at something you have to work hard at it... Thats what these kids do.. they work hard to achieve their goal of getting to college.. Thats it... we wont appologize for that ever..

AS far as whether our model is successful or not well we have 21 kids with D1 offers .. Our goals are as they always have been.. To get kids to college so far we are on our way to achieve that goal.. Winning football games is secondary... Sure we want to win every game but what we want is our kids to compete and to compete against the best.. win or lose... we may go 8-2 , 2-8 , 10-0 whatever as long as kids go to college we win...

What you just wrote only proves every one's suspicions. First no one said ECA was Stupid! Flash is a direct conflict of interest with the Head Coach.Period it is not debatable. The reason why other kids train with flash is to be able for flash to point to the other kids. The one thing that I agree with that you said is that kids outside do not last long. The training his hard and if it wasn't the Coach you play for most all the kids would leave. The only thing in common with the ones that stay is there ECA players.The 2 years my son went to CHC they played in 2 7on7s one at St Pauls, My son was at the Manning camp The other was Kiper 7on7 the only reason they were there it was owned and started by Me and Mel. Gc will probably do 2 7on7 maybe 3 tournaments. As far as out of state teams go,they are not in MD and MD has different rules for different leagues. ECA would violate all of them with 7on7. My definition of a Super Star Kid is someone that has D1 offers. And ECA has had 21. I know most of the schools in MD have not had 21 D1 players in the last 10 years??? The Final Statement (How ECA does not care if they win Games) That is the single biggest lie I have ever heard my entire life. I do however believe that you feel that way and i would stand on your side about your belief as well as you and other parents feeling the same way. I have seen a different side. If you want I can get into the other side it would be better for all in a private Message. Last This was never an attack on the kids of ECA. Never a dought That these Kids have worked their tales off for what they have achieved. I for one think this is their year. If it is, it will be a year that these kids have earned through Hard work and dedication. It also is a year that no other coach in MD would be allowed to mirror. The rules are actually put in place to protect the kids from this exact thing.

[GREYHOUND ALUM]

ECA will have a basketball and baseball team for sure.. Wrestling they are still working on that.. and I know they are trying to get a lacrosse guy in as well.. No we don't have to follow the MIAA rules or any BUT we still pretty much do... There are no rules that prohibit coaches coaching 7on7s and for how long in the Summer.. Between June 1st and Aug 1st .. any MIAA team can do everything we are doing and more they just choose not to... Before school lets out coaches in the MIAA can work with their kids for 3 hours a week.. which is what we do 2 to 3 hours of 7on7.. There are no rules in MIAA prohibiting coaches to be in the weight room only that they are not mandatory.. and really neither is ours.. Not every kid comes every day not every kid goes to all the 7on7s... Some kids play AAU hoops or travel baseball and they are out doing that..

as for the advantage?? depend on who were talking about .. Md teams or teams we play... we don't have an advantage over FLA teams that is for sure... They already have had spring practices and spring games and will practice all summer... I think we play 3 or 4 FLA teams this year....

Our theory is this... we don't compete against kids in Md or DE for scholarship dollars.. Most of those dollars go to kids in FLA, TEX, CAli. LA GA.. that is who we are competing against and we just do everything we can to give our kids those same opportunities and that is by working like they do.. Same thing next level has done for their kids... they even that playing field for scholarship dollars because the Md rules prohibit them..

I don't know of any head coach that coaches their 7 on 7 teams in the summer. I know Biff doesn't. Yes you can practice 3 hrs a week in the MIAA but if you guys don't have to abide by any rules, why would you follow these rules? I'm sure there are plenty of week's were you practice more than 3 hours. And even if you aren't, since January and longer basically, you guys have had organized activities as a TEAM. This gives you a huge advantage over everyone including teams in Florida. Because there's nothing that stops you from doing the exact same thing those guys are doing and you started earlier.

I am not putting down what ECA is doing. It's working as far as offers go. I am just calling it like I see it. Right now and this season, ECA will have a distinct advantage over every team in the country including Florida teams. A two month advantage is still a big advantage.

[harcohorns]

What you just wrote only proves every one's suspicions. First no one said ECA was Stupid! Flash is a direct conflict of interest with the Head Coach.Period it is not debatable. The reason why other kids train with flash is to be able for flash to point to the other kids. The one thing that I agree with that you said is that kids outside do not last long. The training his hard and if it wasn't the Coach you play for most all the kids would leave. The only thing in common with the ones that stay is there ECA players.The 2 years my son went to CHC they played in 2 7on7s one at St Pauls, My son was at the Manning camp The other was Kiper 7on7 the only reason they were there it was owned and started by Me and Mel. Gc will probably do 2 7on7 maybe 3 tournaments. As far as out of state teams go,they are not in MD and MD has different rules for different leagues. ECA would violate all of them with 7on7. My definition of a Super Star Kid is someone that has D1 offers. And ECA has had 21. I know most of the schools in MD have not had 21 D1 players in the last 10 years??? The Final Statement (How ECA does not care if they win Games) That is the single biggest lie I have ever heard my entire life. I do however believe that you feel that way and i would stand on your side about your belief as well as you and other parents feeling the same way. I have seen a different side. If you want I can get into the other side it would be better for all in a private Message. Last This was never an attack on the kids of ECA. Never a dought That these Kids have worked their tales off for what they have achieved. I for one think this is their year. If it is, it will be a year that these kids have earned through Hard work and dedication. It also is a year that no other coach in MD would be allowed to mirror. The rules are actually put in place to protect the kids from this exact thing.

Your certainly entitled to your opinion.. however maybe you don't know but FLASH has 4 training centers now and will open a couple more soon.. It is the coaches full time business. It is what he does he is a trainer and one of the best I have ever seen.. . They have one in Harford Co Md , one in DE, one in NJ opening one in PA and I hear a group in Texas is really interested.. Your assertion the only reason other kids from other schools are there is a ruse is way off base.. Besides it is not any conflict of interest for the head coach to run the weight training for their team.. Just about every HC coach does.. And believe me if D Davis says they are lifting at this time and that day whether its mandatory or not the kids know they have to be there.. Usually the team capatains will make sure they are there at most schools...

[harcohorns]

I don't know of any head coach that coaches their 7 on 7 teams in the summer. I know Biff doesn't. Yes you can practice 3 hrs a week in the MIAA but if you guys don't have to abide by any rules, why would you follow these rules? I'm sure there are plenty of week's were you practice more than 3 hours. And even if you aren't, since January and longer basically, you guys have had organized activities as a TEAM. This gives you a huge advantage over everyone including teams in Florida. Because there's nothing that stops you from doing the exact same thing those guys are doing and you started earlier.

I am not putting down what ECA is doing. It's working as far as offers go. I am just calling it like I see it. Right now and this season, ECA will have a distinct advantage over every team in the country including Florida teams. A two month advantage is still a big advantage.

Sure they do.. AT the kiper 7on7 all teams coaching staffs were coaching their teams... I saw Don Davis and all the Hall coaches coaching their team.. St Joes head coach was coaching his team.... after June 1st it isnt against the rules for MIAA coaches to coach their 7on7 teams.. Bob Milloy was coaching his GC team at the one at U of Md last weekend...

[harcohorns]

I don't know of any head coach that coaches their 7 on 7 teams in the summer. I know Biff doesn't. Yes you can practice 3 hrs a week in the MIAA but if you guys don't have to abide by any rules, why would you follow these rules? I'm sure there are plenty of week's were you practice more than 3 hours. And even if you aren't, since January and longer basically, you guys have had organized activities as a TEAM. This gives you a huge advantage over everyone including teams in Florida. Because there's nothing that stops you from doing the exact same thing those guys are doing and you started earlier.

I am not putting down what ECA is doing. It's working as far as offers go. I am just calling it like I see it. Right now and this season, ECA will have a distinct advantage over every team in the country including Florida teams. A two month advantage is still a big advantage.

SO in some posts you say 7on7 means nothing and now its some huge advantage? make up your mind.. Actually I am glad Gilman didnt play us... I wouldnt be able to stand the crying and excuses of well they do this and they do that if we had won... rediculous..

if we win games because we work harder and longer than our oponents then so what... everything doesnt have to be fair and equal.. America is strongest when those who work harder acheive more...

there is NOTHING no rule preventing any MIAA team to do what we do except for a few minor tweeks where the coach may not be able to coach at certain times or we would have to cut an hour or two here and there... big deal... but whatever.. we have an advantage so what.. I am glad my kid has that advantage..

[GREYHOUND ALUM]

SO in some posts you say 7on7 means nothing and now its some huge advantage? make up your mind.. Actually I am glad Gilman didnt play us... I wouldnt be able to stand the crying and excuses of well they do this and they do that if we had won... rediculous..

if we win games because we work harder and longer than our oponents then so what... everything doesnt have to be fair and equal.. America is strongest when those who work harder acheive more...

there is NOTHING no rule preventing any MIAA team to do what we do except for a few minor tweeks where the coach may not be able to coach at certain times or we would have to cut an hour or two here and there... big deal... but whatever.. we have an advantage so what..

I think your understanding of the MIAA rules are definitely off. There would be more than a minor tweak here and there. Like I said above, even for ECA to enter the MIAA a lot would have to change. No way no how would they allow the team to train with Flash during the school year. With the videos and pics on websites of what you guys do as a team with the coach at the helm, this wouldn't be allowed. I think you don't have an idea how the MIAA works.

I wish Gilman would have played ECA as well, I think it would be a good game that Gilman wins. Don't matter how many players you have with offers, Gilman coaches would out coach ECA coaches all day any day! And its not like Gilman doesn't have players with offers. They do and others like Robert Branch who I would put right now as a rising soph against any of the ECA kids with offers. Coming into the off season I felt that GC should be an overwhelmingly pick as Tops in Maryland, I still think they should but not by a very large margin. Gilman is stacked!

[gc06]

Gilman's DL didn't play a great game against GC to be honest. But RL line wasn't better than Gilman. Bigelow was better than anybody at Gilman. And they were no where near as gig as Gilman. Poggi and Gaia were both 6'4 and Gaia about 300lbs. Goins was just small, that's it. I don't think ECA would beat GC either this year. But no way will GC be better this year than last. The lines will not even be close to as good as they were last year! And keep believing O'Daniel is as good as Wes Brown at RB. Brown was the reason Gilman lost to GC.

GC better worry about Gorman and Gilman. If you think Gilman will be easy because Jones is gone, you are highly mistaken. Cockerille had another big performance this past weekend in Vegas. He's proving that he is not only the best QB in the state but that he's one of the best in the country. The kid is lighting it up. And he will have weapons all over the field. Heard the most unheralded of the weapons Matt Tilley, had a huge performance at the Michigan Camp this weekend. He already has an offer from Navy and hear many more will be coming. And GC's secondary outside of Fuller is weak. With Robert Branch, Matt Tilley, Kai Locksely(Cyrus Jones heir apparent) and Troy Vincent as targets, WOW is all I can say!

I never said GC was going to be better then last year but this team will be special. You can't compare Wes brown and Dorian. There two different kind of rbs. And Dorian is a monster all over the field. And there you go again thinking you know everything about GC. I guarantee Kai and Vincent won't even be able to come close to what jones was for Gilman

[harcohorns]

I think your understanding of the MIAA rules are definitely off. There would be more than a minor tweak here and there. Like I said above, even for ECA to enter the MIAA a lot would have to change. No way no how would they allow the team to train with Flash during the school year. With the videos and pics on websites of what you guys do as a team with the coach at the helm, this wouldn't be allowed. I think you don't have an idea how the MIAA works.

I wish Gilman would have played ECA as well, I think it would be a good game that Gilman wins. Don't matter how many players you have with offers, Gilman coaches would out coach ECA coaches all day any day! And its not like Gilman doesn't have players with offers. They do and others like Robert Branch who I would put right now as a rising soph against any of the ECA kids with offers. Coming into the off season I felt that GC should be an overwhelmingly pick as Tops in Maryland, I still think they should but not by a very large margin. Gilman is stacked!

I have read the MIAA rules and know them top to bottom... regardless who says were so hell bent on getting in the MIAA anyway. I think our focus is more on a regional conference. If the MIAA were to come calling it would be considered but we arent changing what we do for anyone. The MIAA has its own drama to clear up as it is.. I can say for certainty if MIAA were say our kids cant do FLASH then its a definite non starter... They would probably have to say CHC cant do Next level as well.. Our kids have those offers because of FLASH no doubt about it.. No FLASH then only 2 or maybe 3 of those 21 have offers... None of those kids were on anyones radar (except Sills) three years ago when they started and they would not be on any radar today.. I saw those kids 3 years ago and none of them were any rec star with the exception of Sills like the Branch's and kids we talk about today... FLASH turned these kids into D1 players.. I watched it happpen over the last three years every day... I can go one by one what the kid was and what he became but I am not going to embarras them on here.. But I can tell you this there are kids with offers that were minimum play kids on their rec team .. There is one just got an offer and commmited to Syracuse that never played fooball before last season and he only played 4 games last season.. He busted his but in FLASH though and is now going to the school for free he always wanted to go to.

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I never said GC was going to be better then last year but this team will be special. You can't compare Wes brown and Dorian. There two different kind of rbs. And Dorian is a monster all over the field. And there you go again thinking you know everything about GC. I guarantee Kai and Vincent won't even be able to come close to what jones was for Gilman

I know a lot more about GC than you do about Gilman, take my word for it. Vincent isn't Jones but Kai from everything I have heard and seen could be just as good as Jones or BETTER! He is definitely a Jones type of athlete and maybe slightly better in all honesty and that is saying a lot as Jones is one of the greatest athletes in Baltimore history. Now he will not be a Jones type of player next year as a sophomore. He's a kid that's 6'5 almost with Jones type moves and speed. That's just unheard of unless you are Randy Moss. This kid is special, watch what I tell you.

GC should be very good but they still could lose 2 games. I have GC-Gilman as a toss up and anybody's game. Dorian isn't a monster at LB. He's good but wasn't a game changer. He wasn't all over the field like Micah Kiser from Gilman. He needs to put on serious weight. He will be very good on coverage but has a hard time fighting off blocks.

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Here are the rules.. Tell me which rule is being violated and not your assumption of practicing 7on7 for more than three hours because I was there you were not I know you don't... Show me where FLASH is any violation of these rules...

FYI.. the football activities in FLASH you see on the web page are a summer camp where they do position training and all... In the Past the position training was done my University of DE players... Even if the ECA coaches do the position training camp this summer that is still not a MIAA violation as it is the summer season...




XII. Out of Season Practice

First day of Fall practice through May 31st (School Year):

Coaches will be permitted to work with their team outside of the normal season, during the school year, for no more than three hours per week up until their seasonal start date. The three hour time period is voluntary for students and may include; agilities, practices, individual sessions, open gyms, games or contests during the week. Weekend club or rec team games/tournaments and weight training/conditioning activities are not included in this three hour limitation. The three hour time limit is cumulative for all coaches. (This includes Spring football) There are no out of season limitations for the individual sports to include: cross country, golf, squash, swimming, tennis and track.

Summer Season:
June 1 through August 1 (Fall Sports)
June 1 through the Start of Fall Practice (All other Sports)

Fall teams – Summer begins June 1st and ends August 1st. During this time coaches can work with student athletes in any capacity. Workouts must be on a voluntary basis. The use of protective padding for football, blocking/tackling sleds or similar apparatus is prohibited and no contact is allowed. Camps are excluded. From August 1st thru the start date for Fall practices, Fall sports teams may utilize weight training and conditioning activities only. Any instruction, drills, scrimmages, station work or any activity involving equipment for that sport is prohibited.

Winter & Spring Sports teams – Summer begins June 1st and ends the first day of Fall practice. During this time coaches can work with student athletes in any capacity. The Fall sports start date signifies the end of summer and the beginning of the out of season practice limitations for Winter and Spring teams.

For clarification, a practice is defined as an organized gathering of student athletes, supervised by a coach or coaches, for the purpose of preparing for an athletic contest or to decide the numerical make-up of a team. Athletes participating on an in-season team cannot participate with another out of season team. Athletes may participate in two different “in-season” sports.

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I have read the MIAA rules and know them top to bottom... regardless who says were so hell bent on getting in the MIAA anyway. I think our focus is more on a regional conference. If the MIAA were to come calling it would be considered but we arent changing what we do for anyone. The MIAA has its own drama to clear up as it is.. I can say for certainty if MIAA were say our kids cant do FLASH then its a definite non starter... They would probably have to say CHC cant do Next level as well.. Our kids have those offers because of FLASH no doubt about it.. No FLASH then only 2 or maybe 3 of those 21 have offers... None of those kids were on anyones radar (except Sills) three years ago when they started and they would not be on any radar today.. I saw those kids 3 years ago and none of them were any rec star with the exception of Sills like the Branch's and kids we talk about today... FLASH turned these kids into D1 players.. I watched it happpen over the last three years every day... I can go one by one what the kid was and what he became but I am not going to embarras them on here.. But I can tell you this there are kids with offers that were minimum play kids on their rec team .. There is one just got an offer and commmited to Syracuse that never played fooball before last season and he only played 4 games last season.. He busted his but in FLASH though and is now going to the school for free he always wanted to go to.

NLN doesn't do have whole organize team workouts in January. And believe me, there have been people inside of CHC that wanted Davis to get rid of the NLN contingent. Also Davis doesn't work with NLN.

Listen, I think what DT, ECA and Flash are doing is amazing! They are putting kids in school at a HIGH rate! I just know they have an advantage over other schools. But I hope ECA goes out and further puts Maryland on the map! and if Flash wasn't so far away from where my son lives, I would have him train with you guys!

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I think your understanding of the MIAA rules are definitely off. There would be more than a minor tweak here and there. Like I said above, even for ECA to enter the MIAA a lot would have to change. No way no how would they allow the team to train with Flash during the school year. With the videos and pics on websites of what you guys do as a team with the coach at the helm, this wouldn't be allowed. I think you don't have an idea how the MIAA works.

I wish Gilman would have played ECA as well, I think it would be a good game that Gilman wins. Don't matter how many players you have with offers, Gilman coaches would out coach ECA coaches all day any day! And its not like Gilman doesn't have players with offers. They do and others like Robert Branch who I would put right now as a rising soph against any of the ECA kids with offers. Coming into the off season I felt that GC should be an overwhelmingly pick as Tops in Maryland, I still think they should but not by a very large margin. Gilman is stacked!

Seriously do you even know the background of the ECA coaches...your talking silly talk now... The OC worked for LA Raiders then University of DE a wr coach.. The DC was DC of The Del State teams that won a ship and was DC at Howard and was one of the best players Baltimore City ever had.. The HC has over 30 years of college coaching and training experience.. and has trained and coached numerous NFL players mostly D lineman and line backers.. All the other assistants have college experience as well... maybe Gilmans are better I cant say but this blanket statement of Gilman would easily out coach ECA is preposterous at best..

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Seriously do you even know the background of the ECA coaches...your talking silly talk now... The OC worked for LA Raiders then University of DE a wr coach.. The DC was DC of The Del State teams that won a ship and was DC at Howard and was one of the best players Baltimore City ever had.. The HC has over 30 years of college coaching and training experience.. and has trained and coached numerous NFL players mostly D lineman and line backers.. All the other assistants have college experience as well... maybe Gilmans are better I cant say but this blanket statement of Gilman would easily out coach ECA is preposterous at best..

I actually did know the coaches background. I'm talking about what I saw from games the last two years. But I would put Stan White, Bill MacGregor, Biff Poggi, etc. Anyday over the ECS coaches!