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    Question If the ACA is over turned

    What will the pubs do for the millions who will be thrown off their insurance?

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    What will you do to help if that happens?
    My children are my legacy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mom49of4 View Post
    What will you do to help if that happens?
    Hmmmm, since you ask. I will hope that every repub in the world get sick and get thrown off their insurance.

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    Republicans probably will try to pass something similar to Obamacare/Romneycare but under a different name

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    Quote Originally Posted by soulflower View Post
    Republicans probably will try to pass something similar to Obamacare/Romneycare but under a different name
    just like the Dem's blocked slots until Martin was voted in then it became a good idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soulflower View Post
    Republicans probably will try to pass something similar to Obamacare/Romneycare but under a different name
    Either that or they will have to explain to dying kids, why Mommy& Daddy lost their house because of them. This is a win win for the president. I'm sure repubs think if the mandate is over turned they will still keep the goodies. Once the mandate is gone, lil Becky, fresh out of high school is on her own

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    Quote Originally Posted by soulflower View Post
    Republicans probably will try to pass something similar to Obamacare/Romneycare but under a different name
    Either that or they will have to explain to dying kids, why Mommy& Daddy lost their house because of them. This is a win win for the president. I'm sure repubs think if the mandate is over turned they will still keep the goodies. Once the mandate is gone, lil Becky, fresh out of high school is on her own

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    I dunno, maybe make kids have to be on the policy for a more sensible term, say 18 or 23 if a full time student? That would sound about right to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saticon3 View Post
    I dunno, maybe make kids have to be on the policy for a more sensible term, say 18 or 23 if a full time student? That would sound about right to me.
    I thought everybody shouldn't go to College. Gop better get a plan to insure 50 million people, and find a way to keep the goodies. Looks like single payer is coming because insurance companies won't survive without the mandate and keep the goodies. Way to go repubs, vote against your own bill. The funny thing is, the senators and house repubs, will still keep their goodies

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Evans View Post
    Either that or they will have to explain to dying kids, why Mommy& Daddy lost their house because of them. This is a win win for the president. I'm sure repubs think if the mandate is over turned they will still keep the goodies. Once the mandate is gone, lil Becky, fresh out of high school is on her own
    If you think this is win win for Obama you'll be very happy next week right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Evans View Post
    What will the pubs do for the millions who will be thrown off their insurance?
    Why will republicans have to do anything? They will have been right all along that the ill conceived, quickly passed trophy legislation was unconstitutional. If republicans pass anything in the house, Harry Reid would likely kill it in the senate, and if not, Obama would veto it anyway. Just like they did with the debt ceiling bills. If ACA is overturned, it is only because the democrats that rushed to have it passed failed to do the proper research and understand exactly what the constitution really means. In which case, it is really not what will pubs do, but rather what will the democrats do to make up for their lack of due diligence and understanding of the constitution when they passed the ill fated bill in the first place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soulflower View Post
    Republicans probably will try to pass something similar to Obamacare/Romneycare but under a different name
    Will it cover Border Patrol agents shot down by Mexican drug runners with guns provided by the Obama DOJ?

    Sounds like a burgeoning clause in one's health care policy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tunguska View Post
    Will it cover Border Patrol agents shot down by Mexican drug runners with guns provided by the Obama DOJ?

    Sounds like a burgeoning clause in one's health care policy.
    Ask george Bush, the white guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cprenegade View Post
    Why will republicans have to do anything? They will have been right all along that the ill conceived, quickly passed trophy legislation was unconstitutional. If republicans pass anything in the house, Harry Reid would likely kill it in the senate, and if not, Obama would veto it anyway. Just like they did with the debt ceiling bills. If ACA is overturned, it is only because the democrats that rushed to have it passed failed to do the proper research and understand exactly what the constitution really means. In which case, it is really not what will pubs do, but rather what will the democrats do to make up for their lack of due diligence and understanding of the constitution when they passed the ill fated bill in the first place.
    Not true, it was a republican bill. Repubs are playing politcs. They did not want the public option, because the swore it would kill private insurance. Let's see how the pubs play this out
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Evans View Post
    Not true, it was a republican bill. Repubs are playing politcs. They didhe want the pu option, because the swore it would kill private insurance. Let's see how the pubs play this out
    How was it a republican bill? It was crafted and passed with a democratic president, a democratic house, and a democratic senate. Even before it was passed there were people questioning whether or not the mandate would stand up to a supreme court challenge. If the SCOTUS upholds it, does that mean republicans can take credit for it? I don't think so. The vote was pretty much on party lines. It is a democrat bill, and it's success or failure will lay with democrats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Evans View Post
    Not true, it was a republican bill. Repubs are playing politcs. They didhe want the pu option, because the swore it would kill private insurance. Let's see how the pubs play this out
    Wrong again, Libbie! This was a bill that was the bastard offspring of 0, our failed president. This is a failed president who has contempt for the constitution that he took an oath to uphold. Our failure of a president made this ACA the showpiece of his administration. He once taught constitutional law. 0 knew what was in the ACA and that it violated the document that he swore to uphold. Yet, he signed it anyway. 0 is a failure as well as national disgrace to his office.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcorioles View Post
    just like the Dem's blocked slots until Martin was voted in then it became a good idea.

    No that was a totally different deal than what Ehrlich was offering. O'Malley's plan didn't allow slots operators to rape the state. If they belly up tomorrow we owe them nothing. Under Ehrlichs plan we would have had to refund their licensing fees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cprenegade View Post
    How was it a republican bill? It was crafted and passed with a democratic president, a democratic house, and a democratic senate. Even before it was passed there were people questioning whether or not the mandate would stand up to a supreme court challenge. If the SCOTUS upholds it, does that mean republicans can take credit for it? I don't think so. The vote was pretty much on party lines. It is a democrat bill, and it's success or failure will lay with democrats.
    I don't think SCOTUS will uphold the mandate. That strikes at the heart of Freedom of Contract and Bargaining. Freedom of contract includes the right to not contract and even do without if that's what it takes to get your best deal. But I do think they will uphold pretty much the rest of it as Congresses right to regulate Commerce. Including covering preexisting conditions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cprenegade View Post
    How was it a republican bill? It was crafted and passed with a democratic president, a democratic house, and a democratic senate. Even before it was passed there were people questioning whether or not the mandate would stand up to a supreme court challenge. If the SCOTUS upholds it, does that mean republicans can take credit for it? I don't think so. The vote was pretty much on party lines. It is a democrat bill, and it's success or failure will lay with democrats.
    Obamacare is a Democrat policy but the Individual Mandate and the healthcare exchanges are Republican ideas. In fact, there are very few differences between Obama's plan and the plan implemented by Mitt Romney in Massachusetts. President Bush's Social Security privitization plan from 2005 was also based on an Individual Mandate. The only reason Republicans didn't vote for Obamacare was politics. If a republican would have proposed the same plan they wouldn't have been against it. If it is overturned, they will try to keep some of the popular provisions in place.

    Most Democrats want Single Payer healthcare. Obamacare makes marginal changes to the current system but what Democrats want is a complete overhaul that ultimately weakens private insurance companies...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Evans View Post
    Either that or they will have to explain to dying kids, why Mommy& Daddy lost their house because of them. This is a win win for the president. I'm sure repubs think if the mandate is over turned they will still keep the goodies. Once the mandate is gone, lil Becky, fresh out of high school is on her own
    Poor Becky. I've been pretty much paying for everything for myself since I was 11. But I've never been a weak little liberal who needs the gubmint to take care of me from cradle to grave so that explains why I've been able to do that.
    If only Becky was a Conservative, she wouldn't have to worry.

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