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    Default Roberts is done

    He has no power whatsoever. A dozen games back and he has yet to even hit a double. How long to the Orioles keep him leading off and starting?

    GP: 12
    AB: 48
    H: 11 (all singles)
    2B: 0
    3B: 0
    HR: 0
    RBI: 4
    BB: 3
    K: 9
    SB: 0
    SLG: .229
    AVG: .229

    Roberts hit .250 in 7 games for (AA) Bowie and .238 in 5 games for (AAA) Norfolk.

    Is it coincidence that since he's been back, the offense has gone in the tank?

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    While a sputtering offense for the entire team has been very frustrating, I feel that 12 games in is a bit early to make a judgement on Roberts. And as for his effect on the offense, it's not as if the O's have had any success in the leadoff spot since Reimold went down a long, long time ago.

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    I don't see why you don't put Hardy back in the leadoff spot. He did an outstanding job there last year when he hit there. Sure couldn't hurt.

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    O's leadoff hitters this year have the 2nd worst batting average combined in MLB, a paultry .211. Only the Reds are worse at .195.
    Code:
    Nick Johnson      .000   0 for 1
    Wilson Betemit    .000   0 for 2
    Ronny Paulino     .000   0 for 1
    Endy Chavez       .138  11 for 80
    Ryan Flaherty     .154   2 for 13
    Robert Andino     .203  12 for 59
    Brian Roberts     .229  11 for 48
    Xavier Avery      .229  11 for 48
    Nolan Reimond     .308  20 for 65
    ----------------------------------
    totals------------.211  67 for 317
    
    .187 minus Reimold

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob View Post
    O's leadoff hitters this year have the 2nd worst batting average combined in MLB, a paultry .211. Only the Reds are worse at .195.
    Code:
    Nick Johnson      .000   0 for 1
    Wilson Betemit    .000   0 for 2
    Ronny Paulino     .000   0 for 1
    Endy Chavez       .138  11 for 80
    Ryan Flaherty     .154   2 for 13
    Robert Andino     .203  12 for 59
    Brian Roberts     .229  11 for 48
    Xavier Avery      .229  11 for 48
    Nolan Reimond     .308  20 for 65
    ----------------------------------
    totals------------.211  67 for 317
    
    .187 minus Reimold
    Just confirms that leadoff hitters have done bupkis since Reimold went down.

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    Hardy makes Roberts look like Josh Hamilton at this point. Bottom line is if we don't make a few trades to help the offense locker combo's prediction of being below .500 very soon will come true.

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    Good God.... we don't need Mr. Wrong to be right about something now do we?

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    The Orioles are clearly in need of outfield help, and the Twins are clearly in need of help period. I would suggest a trade for Willingham, who is having a solid season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob View Post
    O's leadoff hitters this year have the 2nd worst batting average combined in MLB, a paultry .211. Only the Reds are worse at .195.
    Code:
    Nick Johnson      .000   0 for 1
    Wilson Betemit    .000   0 for 2
    Ronny Paulino     .000   0 for 1
    Endy Chavez       .138  11 for 80
    Ryan Flaherty     .154   2 for 13
    Robert Andino     .203  12 for 59
    Brian Roberts     .229  11 for 48
    Xavier Avery      .229  11 for 48
    Nolan Reimond     .308  20 for 65
    ----------------------------------
    totals------------.211  67 for 317
    
    .187 minus Reimold
    I saw some combined numbers for their 1 and 2 hitters that were equally distressing.

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    I'd like to see Markakis back in right and for us to get Soriano/Willingham in left.

    A bunch of these guys are bench players forced to start. Chavez, N. Johnson, Flaherty, etc. have no business being MLB starters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob View Post
    I'd like to see Markakis back in right and for us to get Soriano/Willingham in left.

    A bunch of these guys are bench players forced to start. Chavez, N. Johnson, Flaherty, etc. have no business being MLB starters.
    Even more frustrating.. all those years of picking high draft picks, and our farm system is still pretty bare (no immediate help). Yet you look at the Red Sox current lineup and they have guys like Middlebrooks and Nava having an impact while Ryan Lavarnay is tearing it up at Pawtucket.

    Why don't we have guys like this available to start helping out? It's amazing that Andy MacFAIL had a job as long as he did here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenboy2003 View Post
    Even more frustrating.. all those years of picking high draft picks, and our farm system is still pretty bare (no immediate help). Yet you look at the Red Sox current lineup and they have guys like Middlebrooks and Nava having an impact while Ryan Lavarnay is tearing it up at Pawtucket.

    Why don't we have guys like this available to start helping out? It's amazing that Andy MacFAIL had a job as long as he did here.
    I just asked the same about Trout and Trumbo.

    The Angels draft well after the Orioles but manage to find these guys.

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    It's a miracle he came back at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob View Post
    I don't see why you don't put Hardy back in the leadoff spot. He did an outstanding job there last year when he hit there. Sure couldn't hurt.
    Hardy should be moved down in the order, not up. He just cannot get on base at a clip that warrants being near the top of an order, even last year with his .310 OBP, which looks good compared to his .276 OBP this year. He just can't draw a walk if his life depended on it. When he batted first last season his OBP was below .300.

    As for Roberts, he hasn't played enough for me to make any conclusions. I have only seen about half his games but I can recall 3 balls which were hit hard that he was unlucky on, one of which was inches from a home run and one which was inches foul. When a player only has 48 ABs, this is exemplified even more as the difference between 11/48 and something like 13/48 is huge in such a small sample.

    He did hit 5 doubles and a home run in 42 ABs during his rehab so I wouldn't say his power is gone, but as long as he gets some hits and works some walks he is the best lead off man we have right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Buzzcut View Post
    I just asked the same about Trout and Trumbo.

    The Angels draft well after the Orioles but manage to find these guys.
    Trout was passed over by many teams because of the Billy Rowell experiment. Both players played against the same competition in New Jersey (which wasn't very good).

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    If this is the end, it's a sad end.
    If he hadn't been injured, I don't know if we would have seen a drop like this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob View Post
    I'd like to see Markakis back in right and for us to get Soriano/Willingham in left.

    A bunch of these guys are bench players forced to start. Chavez, N. Johnson, Flaherty, etc. have no business being MLB starters.
    Do you miss Vlad yet? I do as does Palmer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hector View Post
    Do you miss Vlad yet? I do as does Palmer.
    I miss Vlad when he was still Vlad but he's done. I mean cmon Hector, I miss Brooks at third but he was toast before he retired. At least Vlad went out while he was still decent and not a former shell of himself. You need to let go of Vladdy. Heck of a player but no other team has picked him up have they? Why do you think that is?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dandrews View Post
    Trout was passed over by many teams because of the Billy Rowell experiment. Both players played against the same competition in New Jersey (which wasn't very good).
    I still find it hard to believe that Rowell fooled so many scouts. He should go down in baseball history as one of the biggest frauds of all time. I hear this phony is now trying to re-invent himself as a pitcher for craps sake! He ought to be worshipping the ground those scouts walk on that overated him so badly! I mean cmon, how many top ten picks never make it out of the low minors their entire career barring a string of career ending injuries? I cannot believe how terribly bad this turned out for the Orioles completely wasting the number 9 pick in that draft.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baltimore Ravens Lets Go! View Post
    I still find it hard to believe that Rowell fooled so many scouts. He should go down in baseball history as one of the biggest frauds of all time. I hear this phony is now trying to re-invent himself as a pitcher for craps sake! He ought to be worshipping the ground those scouts walk on that overated him so badly! I mean cmon, how many top ten picks never make it out of the low minors their entire career barring a string of career ending injuries? I cannot believe how terribly bad this turned out for the Orioles completely wasting the number 9 pick in that draft.

    Smells of somebody owing someone a favor.

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