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    Thumbs down Mitch Mcconnell finally admits that the uninsured are not the issue

    http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/...-issue-643032/

    They don't have a plan. SMDH. It would be funny if not sad seeing pubs twisting themselves into knots trying to defend Romney. BTW, where is Willard, why isn't he talking about his mandate or the sumpreme court decision in public outside of fox news.
    He has no Ball$. He won't speak for himself.

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    The Dems should brag that Obamacare encourages PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY. It requires lazy people sucking off the government and the ER to get insurance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnpolitics View Post
    The Dems should brag that Obamacare encourages PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY. It requires lazy people sucking off the government and the ER to get insurance.
    I think the president knows either you are for it or against it. No need to keep talking it about it. Republicans has already said they have no plan to insure 30 million people. The problem is 85% of the country has insurance so this bill means nothing to them. The president is the president of all the country and Willard doesn't care about the 15% who doesn't have insurance. He just wants to get elected. He sold his soul. This Bill will be like medicare and social security. This is why repubs won't impliment it. They know if they attempt to take repeal, after the 85% enjoy the rebates, and goodies, they will be done.

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    Many views few replies I wonder why ?

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    Reality has such a notoriously liberal bias...

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    I have been on both sides of this issue. After reading everything available and listening to many of the discussions pro and con I came down on the side of health care reform. I'm sure the bill that Congress passed and the President signed is not perfect. Over time there will be additions and deletions if members of both parties will work together to perfect the ACA.

    Am I dreaming??? That won't happen anytime soon. Too many feet in concrete and heads buried in the sand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnpolitics View Post
    The Dems should brag that Obamacare encourages PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY. It requires lazy people sucking off the government and the ER to get insurance.
    All the people unable to afford said insurance will still be sucking off the government via the taxpayer. The difference here is that only a small percentage of these people ended up at the ER while now ALL of them will be subsidized by the government. The fact is that the people clogging ER's and overburdening the health care system are mostly illegal aliens. Solve that problem and you solve a great part of the healthcare problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by veritas View Post
    All the people unable to afford said insurance will still be sucking off the government via the taxpayer. The difference here is that only a small percentage of these people ended up at the ER while now ALL of them will be subsidized by the government. The fact is that the people clogging ER's and overburdening the health care system are mostly illegal aliens. Solve that problem and you solve a great part of the healthcare problem.
    The problem is republicans have no plan yet want to repeal. Something has to be done. This is America. If the black president would have not been president, and ACA never made a law, Willard would have bragged about his Bill. Oh wait, he did that. He claimed it kept free loaders from sucking on the gubmint tit. What's the problem now? Willard is a spineless wimp, who will never be able to stand up to our enemies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Evans View Post
    The problem is republicans have no plan yet want to repeal. Something has to be done. This is America. If the black president would have not been president, and ACA never made a law, Willard would have bragged about his Bill. Oh wait, he did that. He claimed it kept free loaders from sucking on the gubmint tit. What's the problem now? Willard is a spineless wimp, who will never be able to stand up to our enemies.
    Romney not having a plan doesn't make Obama's plan a good one. They are two separate issues. Even if one agrees with the idea of covering the uninsured, handing over punitive powers to the Federal government to accomplish it is a bad idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by veritas View Post
    Romney not having a plan doesn't make Obama's plan a good one. They are two separate issues. Even if one agrees with the idea of covering the uninsured, handing over punitive powers to the Federal government to accomplish it is a bad idea.
    Come on dude, only when Dems are in charge is the gubmint bad. It is the goverment job to make sure its citizens have proper health care. This is America. If not the goverment than who?

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    Quote Originally Posted by veritas View Post
    handing over punitive powers to the Federal government to accomplish it is a bad idea.
    Funny, in almost every industrialized country, the government runs health care, and it's citizens live longer. No one in UK, France, Japan etc has to worry about having to choose between buying medicine or buying food.

    And it's even more amazing, how many people do you see giving up their Medicare policy?

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    Again only when there is a Dem president the gubmint is bad. As for medicare,there is a reason why Pubs refuse to impliment ACA. They know their free loadeing constituents will begin to like it. Just like they now love medicare

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Evans View Post
    Come on dude, only when Dems are in charge is the gubmint bad. It is the goverment job to make sure its citizens have proper health care. This is America. If not the goverment than who?
    It is NOT the government's job to make sure its citizens have proper health care. We may voluntarily give them that power but it is not their job and nowhere does the Constitution give them that power. It is no more their job than it is to see that everyone has a house, a car or a career. Their job is to maintain a society free enough to give everyone the opportunity to pursue success. That's it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Evans View Post
    Again only when there is a Dem president the gubmint is bad. As for medicare,there is a reason why Pubs refuse to impliment ACA. They know their free loadeing constituents will begin to like it. Just like they now love medicare
    You do realize there's a difference between long existing programs and new ones, right? Just because we've allowed government to expand its power in the past is no reason to keep on doing it. As for Republicans, they are only slightly less guilty than Democrats on this score. I have nowhere absolved them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by veritas View Post
    It is NOT the government's job to make sure its citizens have proper health care. We may voluntarily give them that power but it is not their job and nowhere does the Constitution give them that power. It is no more their job than it is to see that everyone has a house, a car or a career. Their job is to maintain a society free enough to give everyone the opportunity to pursue success. That's it.
    Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. If that's not Healtcare than I don't know what is

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    Liberty to not have health insurance results in a monetary punishment. That is not freedom.
    My children are my legacy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mom49of4 View Post
    Liberty to not have health insurance results in a monetary punishment. That is not freedom.
    Just like driving a car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mom49of4 View Post
    Liberty to not have health insurance results in a monetary punishment. That is not freedom.
    If you have insurance, the law doesn't affect you.

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    You are not mandated to have a car.
    My children are my legacy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Evans View Post
    Just like driving a car.
    Which is entirely regulated at the state level plus nobody is forcing you to buy auto insurance if you don't have a car. Everyone is forced to buy (or have provided) health insurance.

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