This is what I said, "I posted this knowing that I would get the "I told you so" from the people who have given up on this organization but that's not who I was directing this at."
This is how you dissected what I said, "I posted this knowing that I would get the "I told you so" from the people who have given up on this organization."
Those are completely opposite statements. "But that's not who I was directing this at" means that I did not write this to get a response from the naysayers even though I knew they would chime in anyway. The thread was directed at people who actually believed this team could play better than they have. It's pretty simple if you actually read it.
And to your other point, if you read my o.p. I was comparing the Orioles over the last 6 weeks to how they started off and to their career numbers. I don't know how that got past you.
I've explained this as simply as I can.
Last edited by 85Knight; 07-11-2012 at 12:15 PM.
all these things together left me with the wrong impression. I'm very happy I was wrong.
I understand that. I see where you're comparing to both sets of numbers. but stats accomplished over an 8 week period are not usually the best yardstick. any player or team can have an incredibly good or bad 8 weeks. that includes the greats of the game and the Jeff Manto types. so I didn't focus on the first 2 months of the season, because most everyone knew they were playing over their head.And to your other point, if you read my o.p. I was comparing the Orioles over the last 6 weeks to how they started off and to their carreer numbers. I don't know how that got past you.
I've explained this as simply as I can.
were you expecting the O's to play at that clip for the whole season?
The problem is that after the Pirates series things got even worse. Schmuck chimed in on this, read his article. Check out the other thread that talks about how bad we we started hitting after the Pirates series. Look at everybody's numbers right now. They're way below their career avgs. This team can play better than they did the last 6 weeks. It's pretty obvious. Will they? Now that's the million dollar question.
the results of April-May were a collective effort. Reimold was an impact leadoff hitter. then he was lost for the season. Davis was hitting very well, but then he bottomed out. he seems to be coming back up again. as I said before, he doesn't have a long enough track record to say he's doing better or worse than his career. he's doing worse than April-May, that's for sure.
top to bottom, the team was hitting. not all in the same game, but any batter in any given game could and was beating opposing pitching.
that's hard to quantify because it isn't a stat that can be as easily measured. for example, if you were to look at Andino's individual #s, they may look bad. what isn't as easily tracked is that his few hits may have come at important moments of the game. maybe he extended an inning or that sort of thing. when Reimold and Markakis went down, and Davis started slumping. there were more weaknesses. that put a bigger burden on guys like Betemit and Andino. add Pearce and Avery, and it's not hard to see why they stopped winning as often.
this team isn't filled with impact players. they won as a team. it's like your car's engine. when everything is in synch, it runs great. throw in a few misfired sparks from your plugs, and suddenly you're spuddering.
the short answer is, what this team accomplished in April-May defies stats. that's why I disagreed with you that you could track their success/failure by their individual numbers (both career and 2012).
None of that takes away from the fact that we went south though. We went from playing well to playing badly. I'd settle for some middle ground from this team. If we can do that we've got a shot at a winning season. Even though Markakis will help if we don't get more production from Hardy and Reynolds we're in trouble. We really need to hit better than .240 as a team to continue to win.
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