Obama v. Romney: Two Radically Different Visions Of America's Future

[gonzoliberal]

We've got a stark choice: do we improve the systems that have made us rich and powerful in the past? Or do we tear them down in the name of "freedom," and hope for the best?

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America is divided about its future. Should it keep and expand the system that brought past opportunity, prosperity and freedom? Or should it dismantle that system?

President Obama recently reminded us that private life, private enterprise and personal freedom depend on what the public provides.

"The Internet didn't get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet.... when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together. There are some things, just like fighting fires, we don't do on our own.... So we say to ourselves, ever since the founding of this country ... there are some things we do better together. That's how we funded the GI Bill. That's how we created the middle class. That's how we built the Golden Gate +Bridge or the Hoover Dam. That's how we invented the Internet. That's how we sent a man to the moon. We rise or fall together as one nation and as one people ... I still believe in that idea. You're not on your own, we're in this together.... If you were successful, ... somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive."

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The first person accusing Obama of being Marxist/communist/etc loses.

Try to expand your thinking beyond the Limbaughian shallowness and understand reality for a change...

[Mike Evans]

What's Romney tax plan. How will he pay for tax cuts. Will somebody please tell me this

[demopublican]

Oromney or Rombama.

Six of one or a half dozen of the other.

[gps29070]

The real difference I see is Obama is truthful about what he believes, Romney just says anything and to stir up hate against Obama.

The truth is, Romney was more liberal when he was governor then Obama is as president today.

[cprenegade]

The real difference I see is Obama is truthful about what he believes, Romney just says anything and to stir up hate against Obama.

The truth is, Romney was more liberal when he was governor then Obama is as president today.

Really? Is that why his campaign so far has been nothing but trying to smear Romney over his taxes and Bain employment? Is that why he has extended tax cuts that he calls unfair? I might not argue with you about Romney being more liberal as a governor, but the left needs to make up it's mind on what he is. One day he will be nothing more than a neo-con return to the Bush years, the next he is more liberal than Obama. He can't be both.

[Mike Evans]

Really? Is that why his campaign so far has been nothing but trying to smear Romney over his taxes and Bain employment? Is that why he has extended tax cuts that he calls unfair? I might not argue with you about Romney being more liberal as a governor, but the left needs to make up it's mind on what he is. One day he will be nothing more than a neo-con return to the Bush years, the next he is more liberal than Obama. He can't be both.

All I want to know what is his tax plan and would only the rich benefit from them. Also what new ideas does he has to jump start the economy. As far as his taxes, he doesn't have to show them, I will just take it as he has somehing to hide

[gps29070]

One day he will be nothing more than a neo-con return to the Bush years, the next he is more liberal than Obama. He can't be both.

Did it bother you when the republican candidates for president like Gingrich, Santorum, Paul, Cain, McCain, etc were also pointing this about Romney?

That's Romney's fault for being that way. Romney was a liberal when he was governor of Massachusetts. Pro-abortion, pro government mandates for healthcare, raising of taxes and fees....

Now Romney is running as a conservative, claiming now he is pro-life, against taxes, against mandated healthcare.

Romney is the one who has tried to be both. For one to support Romney means they have to completely ignore his track record as governor.

[Cetshwayo]

Gun limitation (R) or gun elimination (O).

Illegals get everything (O) or illegals get more than they deserve (R).

Abortion restrictions (R) or abortion orgy (O).

Go bankrupt in three years (O) or go bankrupt in seven to nine years (R).

Boy Scouts are decent (R) or Boy Scouts are a Hate Group (O).

Chic filay (R) or hotdog and clam casserole (O).

[SalisburySage]

What's Romney tax plan. How will he pay for tax cuts. Will somebody please tell me this

He has articulated how he will pay for them. The problem is that the libs don't believe him and the Obama Ostriches head buried you know where, won't even listen to the explanation.

[SalisburySage]

I am pretty much sick of the whole mess. After the RNC maybe I'll pay attention. Most everyone has made up their mind already, nothing is going to change that, but Romney will get a big bounce after he announces his VP choice and after he gets all that money waiting for him after he is nominated. Because of Campain finance laws he can't spend all that money until he is the actual nominee. After that Obama will have a tough time keeping up with Romney's spending.

Romney needs to nominate Marco Rubio as his VP choice.

I do find it funny that Obama is so desperate that he has to get Bill Clinton to nominate him.

[gps29070]

Gun limitation (R) or gun elimination (O).

Completely wrong about Obama on this. Obama is PRO-GUN, hasn't passed a single law restricting guns and in fact has passed laws making it easier to carry a gun, like in national parks.,

Romney on the other hand supported gun control laws in Massachusetts, passing several laws.

Like I said, if an NRA type is supporting Romney, it's based purely on racism and not the facts.

Proof from 2004

Governor Mitt Romney has signed into law a permanent assault weapons ban that he says will make it harder for criminals to get their hands on these guns.

"Deadly assault weapons have no place in Massachusetts,"� Romney said, at a bill signing ceremony on July 1 with legislators, sportsmen's groups and gun safety advocates. "These guns are not made for recreation or self-defense. They are instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people."

[SalisburySage]

Completely wrong about Obama on this. Obama is PRO-GUN, hasn't passed a single law restricting guns and in fact has passed laws making it easier to carry a gun, like in national parks.,

Romney on the other hand supported gun control laws in Massachusetts, passing several laws.

Like I said, if an NRA type is supporting Romney, it's based purely on racism and not the facts.

Proof from 2004

YAWN! Nobody cares about what happened in 2004. Nobody. Its just metal masturbation to even bring it up.

[Mike Evans]

I am pretty much sick of the whole mess. After the RNC maybe I'll pay attention. Most everyone has made up their mind already, nothing is going to change that, but Romney will get a big bounce after he announces his VP choice and after he gets all that money waiting for him after he is nominated. Because of Campain finance laws he can't spend all that money until he is the actual nominee. After that Obama will have a tough time keeping up with Romney's spending.

Romney needs to nominate Marco Rubio as his VP choice.

I do find it funny that Obama is so desperate that he has to get Bill Clinton to nominate him.

He won't get a bounce. People have made up their minds already. Romney needs a clean sweep. He wil not get it

[SalisburySage]

He won't get a bounce. People have made up their minds already. Romney needs a clean sweep. He wil not get it

We'll know soon enough. I wouldn't worry about it if I were you.