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    Quote Originally Posted by songfourone View Post
    Greed, pure and simple greed.
    The greed of the Libbies is boundless as is their anti-choice desire to force themselves onto others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bloomin Onion View Post
    http://video.foxnews.com/v/196556815...tcmp=obnetwork

    Anyone regret voting for Obama yet? And my dad has friends who own small businesses, and they have also said they will cut workers and their hours because of Obama forcing them to give health care benefits. Like the guy in the video says companies are there to make money. This is America. We are a Western capitalist country. This is not China, Vietnam, North Korea, or Cuba.

    Now there's a news flash. What are you, like 15?

    Do what most companies do when their costs increase - either suck it up and look for ways to be more efficient, or pass it on to the consumer. This is a longtime tradition of companies.

    That said, the same type of crap (arguments) were used when companies fought against clean water and clean air, ie, "our costs will go up and we will have to cut jobs or go over seas".

    OK, then, bye.

    Those who opposed clean air and water, because they would increase operating expenses, would have had our air and water looking like what's found in the industrial centers of China. Air so thick and pungent you can spoon it.

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    Many of those companies are the biggest welfare recipients anyway and they definitely aren't too big to fail; and when they do, there will be other companies happy to take their places. It is rather funny hearing all the excuses they are making. I don't think it is funny that they are taking it out on their workers though.

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    Didn't everyone know Obamacare was a poorly thought-out program from the get-go? You'd have to be blindly partisan to miss it. Ordinarily I'm not an "I-Told-You-So" type of guy, but damn, it's going to be tough over the next four years not to repeatedly cry, "I told you so!"

    Well, the non-whites and the clueless libs had to have him (Obama) and now we're stuck with him. Damn!

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    Quote Originally Posted by songfourone View Post
    Greed, pure and simple greed.
    Okay, it's greed. Does that make it better? Does acknowledging that it is greed lower the cost trickled down to the employee/consumer? These corporations don't care one bit that you think they are greedy. They don't care if you boycott them. You're 1 in 311,000,000+. You're not hurting them by boycotting them, you'll never get the majority of the population to boycott them, they are going to continue to operate and they are going to continue to pass increased operating costs on to the consumer. If you haven't learned to live 100% off the land, with no need for electricity, purchased food items, clothing, textiles to make clothing if you make your own, home furnishings, home maintenance items, etc., you, too, are contributing in some form or fashion to corporate greed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaggerJohn View Post
    Didn't everyone know Obamacare was a poorly thought-out program from the get-go? You'd have to be blindly partisan to miss it. Ordinarily I'm not an "I-Told-You-So" type of guy, but damn, it's going to be tough over the next four years not to repeatedly cry, "I told you so!"

    Well, the non-whites and the clueless libs had to have him (Obama) and now we're stuck with him. Damn!
    White supremacy forverever! Do I get a high five?!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NCBirdfan View Post
    Many of those companies are the biggest welfare recipients anyway and they definitely aren't too big to fail; and when they do, there will be other companies happy to take their places. It is rather funny hearing all the excuses they are making. I don't think it is funny that they are taking it out on their workers though.
    Generally, the purpose of a company is not to exist to provide a trough for feeding the minions of the Obamesssigah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaggerJohn View Post
    Didn't everyone know Obamacare was a poorly thought-out program from the get-go? You'd have to be blindly partisan to miss it. Ordinarily I'm not an "I-Told-You-So" type of guy, but damn, it's going to be tough over the next four years not to repeatedly cry, "I told you so!"

    Well, the non-whites and the clueless libs had to have him (Obama) and now we're stuck with him. Damn!

    Maybe we should keep a running tally of ACTUAL cuts, and/ or the number of companies that move abroad due to Obama care, and those that did the same thing prior to Obama Care? Maybe during the Bush administration?

    Do you really believe the numbers will be significantly diffferent? I don't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NCBirdfan View Post
    White supremacy forverever! Do I get a high five?!?
    Nothing to do with supremacy--it's who voted and didn't vote for Romney. Even in dear old Maryland, the white vote went to Romney, but 29% of the electorate was black and they all voted for Obama.

    You simply cannot ignore the racial dimensions of this election.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dsummoner View Post
    Generally, the purpose of a company is not to exist to provide a trough for feeding the minions of the Obamesssigah.
    Isn't it Walmart that relies on the government to provide benefits, etc. for its workers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NCBirdfan View Post
    Isn't it Walmart that relies on the government to provide benefits, etc. for its workers?
    The 'government' (i.e. the Ebil Debil moderate income earners... those that government is looting from) provides consumption/existence subsidies to that lot irrespective of Walmart. The days of 'look ma I can turn da bolt on da assembly line/flip da burger/stock da shelf and be all middle class and stuff' are over (regardless of how much the Libbies wish to cling to the past and to the ideologies of dead Ebil White Debil Europeans).

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    Quote Originally Posted by naive View Post
    For years this nation has cried for healthcare reform..They get it, they cry...

    Geesh..
    The people that cried for it got it; those of us stuck footing the bill are crying. My back just can't carry anymore...

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    Quote Originally Posted by songfourone View Post
    Especially for Bland, just once he should get a win.
    As opposed to the one that can't buy her first clue?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Navypost View Post
    IHOP for me

    Yech, local greasy spoons are better IMHO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anne68 View Post
    The people that cried for it got it; those of us stuck footing the bill are crying. My back just can't carry anymore...
    Really?? What bill are you footing?? I thought healthcare was an option, at least at my company it is...

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    Quote Originally Posted by atomic View Post
    What??? You can check the contracts of any the grocery stores that are unionized. I am sure they are all pretty much the same. This was 13 years ago of course. But anyway what in my post would make you think I am lying. Back 20 years ago grocery stores actually paid good wages and had great benefits. By the time I got there the only thing left was the health benefits.
    Good wages are all relative I guess, if you thought 8 bucks an hour was good more power to you. Grocery stores paid well for the work YEARS ago, 13 years isn't that long ago. No way it was 'free".

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    Excluding the Libbie fringe kookeria about dreuglation, the following article makes some salient points:

    he Tea-Party Conservative types get it embarrassingly wrong when they call it a “government takeover of health care.” Likewise, Progressive Obama-supporters are deluded in accepting it as the most sweeping healthcare reform since Medicare. (Side note: I wish the word ‘sweeping’ could be retired from politics until it actually means -sweeping.) Here’s why. The PPACA does nothing to restructure the health insurance industry, anymore than the Dodd-Frank Act restructures the banking industry. This means everything else it attempts to do, positive or negative, will be vastly overshadowed by an industry accelerating to morph itself into a acquisition machine in order to circumvent anything that even smells like a restriction, including laws that exist and ones to come...

    The medical cost ratio limitation the PPACA instills; that 80% of premiums must be used for medical care in the case of individuals and small groups, and 85% in the case of large groups) to supposedly ensure companies operate on a more efficient premium in vs. premium out basis, is a joke. Its punch line is accounting manipulation. Call everything a medical cost; even buying another company, and the ratio is meaningless. WellPoint got that joke immediately. The largest for-profit “managed health care” company in the Blue Cross and Blue Shield Association, it began trading publicly on December 1, 2004. Depending on the state, it operates under Blue Cross and Blue Shield, Blue Cross or Anthem... After the Supreme Court upheld the PPACA, a spate of mergers rippled through the managed health care realm, to ostensibly cope with smaller profit margins and ‘compliance costs.’ But really, it’s because each firm wants to corner as much as possible of the market, in as many states as it can, to garner more premiums and control more disbursements and prices at the upcoming insurance ‘exchanges.’
    Now, even the fringe kook Libbie looters know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soulflower View Post
    I won't patronize any business that screws their employees to be spiteful over an election
    Yeah I'm sure you will find a place to spend your racist bucks! More commie sour grapes! It is going to be such fun to hear you pissandmoan while the economy falls into depression!

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    Quote Originally Posted by reg_indy View Post
    Whats wrong with Democracy?
    With mob rule... quite a bit.

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