I think we're in for a rude awakening!

[can you hear me now!]

Ah yes.....that's very convincing. Seeing as how The Professor loves.....well....pretty much every QB. Similiar to Jaws in that respect.

ahhhh...Bristol not sharing your opinion...I thought their opinions were what mattered the most to you....I guess their opinion only matters when it suits you...

lick nutz....

[West Chester Raven]

You mean like Drew Brees? Maybe the Saints really didn't value his abilities... considering he got all the way to franchise tag status before they gave him another deal.

Right - like Drew Brees. Slightly different economics working there - right? The contracts that Drew and Joe have will be very very different sir. Very different. I think Drew's contract was and is just a bit more complex in terms of cap implications for a team. Please.

[LarryN]

Will there be a pre-season doom & gloom thread next year, too?

Of course there will.

[Fang]

11-5 and the Ravens win the division and goto the Superbowl finally under John Harbaugh. You heard it here first.

Damn I'm good.

[CajunRaven]

And speed or not, the Ravens have no solid "go to" WRs who can be depended on NOT to drop the ball.

Lol! OCF, ouch.

[OriginalColtsFan]

Lol! OCF, ouch.

Ouch what? The Ravens WRs STILL drop more balls than true "go to" WRs and TEs should. It happened in the first half of the NE game as well. So no...I wouldn't say "ouch" at all.

[CajunRaven]

I got news for you friend. Joe Flacco is going into YEAR 5! What you see is what you get. He isn't even in the conversation in terms of comparing with those guys you listed. Outside of charm city or his "bro's" from the University of Delaware nobody thinks Joe is anything other than a mid-tier QB. There is no shame in that - let's not pretend he is somethng else.
He doesn't have a contract right now for a reason.

Ouch.....

[OriginalColtsFan]

Ouch.....

Okay. Now THAT'S definitely an "ouch".

[CajunRaven]

If you had an ability to actually read, Anti referred to ROSS Tucker.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ross_Tucker



Another one of your 'Bristol' guys.

I really do miss LC, especially now!

[Steveg85321]

Ouch what? The Ravens WRs STILL drop more balls than true "go to" WRs and TEs should. It happened in the first half of the NE game as well. So no...I wouldn't say "ouch" at all.

I'd be real curious to see some stats on that. I imagine all receivers drop balls, I wonder if ours are really worse? I have this idea that some, like Reggie Wayne for example, have exceptionally sticky fingers and if they can touch it they catch it, but I bet even the best have lapses in attention, short arms at times, and just plain occasional stone fingers.

[Peej7245]

Ouch what? The Ravens WRs STILL drop more balls than true "go to" WRs and TEs should. It happened in the first half of the NE game as well. So no...I wouldn't say "ouch" at all.

Not disagreeing or agreeing, but it did spark another thought:

In the Denver game, Flacco overthrew Torrey by about a yard down the middle and all we heard was how Flacco "...just can't afford to miss those..."

Well, last Sunday, Brady missed a wide open Welker, but did you hear Simms complaining that Brady "...just can't afford to miss those..."

I guess the "ELITE" QBs get an occasional mulligan! Not Flacco though.

[can you hear me now!]

I'd be real curious to see some stats on that. I imagine all receivers drop balls, I wonder if ours are really worse? I have this idea that some, like Reggie Wayne for example, have exceptionally sticky fingers and if they can touch it they catch it, but I bet even the best have lapses in attention, short arms at times, and just plain occasional stone fingers.

Here's a link to the dropped pass stats as compiled by NBC.....it will come as a shock to those who think the Ravens WR's drop a lot of passes...it will also shock you which WR's have the most drops....

http://scores.nbcsports.msnbc.com/fb...rank=232&year=

here's one for team stats...interesting to note which team is 31st (or the 2nd most sure handed team in the league)....

http://hosted.stats.com/fb/tmleaders...iving&rank=232

Torrey Smith had 3 drops...Boldin had 4...Jones 1....Doss..1

keep in mind this is regular season...

[AFKAR7]

I am one who also thought this was going to be an 8-8 year and no playoffs. I have to say while I was sitting there in Foxboro watching that game end, I was stunned at the fact they are headed back to a SB.

[CajunRaven]

Ouch.....

Boldin and Torrey have been sure handed IMO.

Pitta. Jones too.

I like our guys.

Joe throws the ball up and they go get it.

[Steveg85321]

Here's a link to the dropped pass stats as compiled by NBC.....it will come as a shock to those who think the Ravens WR's drop a lot of passes...it will also shock you which WR's have the most drops....

http://scores.nbcsports.msnbc.com/fb...rank=232&year=

here's one for team stats...interesting to note which team is 31st (or the 2nd most sure handed team in the league)....

http://hosted.stats.com/fb/tmleaders...iving&rank=232

Torrey Smith had 3 drops...Boldin had 4...Jones 1....Doss..1

keep in mind this is regular season...

Thanks very much for that. Looks like we're in pretty good hands.

[85Knight]

Ouch what? The Ravens WRs STILL drop more balls than true "go to" WRs and TEs should. It happened in the first half of the NE game as well. So no...I wouldn't say "ouch" at all.

You're making the same mistake a lot of people make with Flacco. You're looking at our team through a microcsope and not really comparing us to everyone else. All qb's make mistakes and all receivers drop passes, we're not any worse than anyone else. We just continue to magnify our on faults.

[OriginalColtsFan]

Not disagreeing or agreeing, but it did spark another thought:

In the Denver game, Flacco overthrew Torrey by about a yard down the middle and all we heard was how Flacco "...just can't afford to miss those..."

Well, last Sunday, Brady missed a wide open Welker, but did you hear Simms complaining that Brady "...just can't afford to miss those..."

I guess the "ELITE" QBs get an occasional mulligan! Not Flacco though.

I agree with this post 100%. Welker drops a pass or two, and it's the end of the world. Joe's WRs drop passes all the time, yet it's always Joe's fault. It never ceases to amaze me.

[OriginalColtsFan]

Here's a link to the dropped pass stats as compiled by NBC.....it will come as a shock to those who think the Ravens WR's drop a lot of passes...it will also shock you which WR's have the most drops....

http://scores.nbcsports.msnbc.com/fb...rank=232&year=

here's one for team stats...interesting to note which team is 31st (or the 2nd most sure handed team in the league)....

http://hosted.stats.com/fb/tmleaders...iving&rank=232

Torrey Smith had 3 drops...Boldin had 4...Jones 1....Doss..1

keep in mind this is regular season...

IMO, those stats on "drops" are unrealistic. Just my opinion.

[can you hear me now!]

IMO, those stats on "drops" are unrealistic. Just my opinion.

I just report the stats, not gather them....take it up with NBC and Stats Inc....

I have no idea what the defintion of a drop is, but I know what one looks like-- see Jones in the Bronco game and Welker in last week's game...

IMHO, a drop is if the ball hits you in the hands and you don't catch the ball without the intervention of a defender...

[OriginalColtsFan]

I just report the stats, not gather them....take it up with NBC and Stats Inc....

I have no idea what the defintion of a drop is, but I know what one looks like-- see Jones in the Bronco game and Welker in last week's game...

IMHO, a drop is if the ball hits you in the hands and you don't catch the ball without the intervention of a defender...

Doss's drop of a sure TD pass was NOT counted as a drop, IIRC. But it certainly was a "drop" in my book. That's why I'm not impressed with the stats on drops.