RGIII beats Andrew Luck

[Baltimore Ravens Lets Go!]

Facts that prove you wrong isn't trolling.

NFC player of the week. Again.

So what? He had a good game against a crappy team that was mailing it in. I guess in your delusional pea brain he is now better than Matt Ryan because Ryan had a terrible game last week throwing 5 picks?

It is clear that he is headed towards a Michael Vick career at best while Luck is headed towards a Peyton Manning/Brees/Brady type career. Deal with it. You are not only wrong you are stupidly wrong and don't even see that nobody here agrees with the baloney you continue spewing.

[HAIL2BNG]

Actually, only three idiots don't agree with me.

[Eastside Terp]

Actually, only three idiots don't agree with me.

agree with what? ......

what's your point troll, that he was a better pick than Luck? ........

[Baltimore Ravens Lets Go!]

agree with what? ......

what's your point troll, that he was a better pick than Luck? ........

Apparently, and where he gets that the majority agrees with him on this thead, is beyond me unless he has multiple ID's and is agreeing with himself is mystifying. He's arrogant and delusional at the same time. Typical Yankee fan but it doesn't work well applying that stance to the lowly Redskins.

[Baltimore Ravens Lets Go!]

Actually, only three idiots don't agree with me.

WRONG, ANYONE who DOES agree with you is an IDIOT! Albeit they are about as scarce as the other Yankee fans posting on this thread. I went back through most of this thread and counted nine or more posters who clearly DO NOT agree with you and at most only three that do. So your distorted take on this thread is BACKWARDS of reality.

[HAIL2BNG]

I'll take the fact that Griffin is a spectacular talent and have pretty much every knowledgable football mind agrees. Only ignorant haters disagree. Eastwood twerp is the only person who has claimed to watch him who doesn't come away impressed. Of course, we all know why that is.

[Baltimore Ravens Lets Go!]

I'll take the fact that Griffin is a spectacular talent and have pretty much every knowledgable football mind agrees. Only ignorant haters disagree. Eastwood twerp is the only person who has claimed to watch him who doesn't come away impressed. Of course, we all know why that is.

So you would take him over Luck or not? Simple straight forward question, yes or no?

[Eastside Terp]

I'll take the fact that Griffin is a spectacular talent and have pretty much every knowledgable football mind agrees. Only ignorant haters disagree. Eastwood twerp is the only person who has claimed to watch him who doesn't come away impressed. Of course, we all know why that is.

clever with the twerp, troll, that's never been used on here before .......

ok clueless, let me try again .......

I have compared him favorably to mike vick, a 1st pick over all, one of the most talented athletes to enter the league and a qb that won playoff games and single handly turned around a franchise and was ne of, if not the fastest guy in the league ......

keeping with the premise of this thread, he is not the next manning or brady and in my opinion, doesn't have that tool kit ......

andrew luck is the classic qb like them .......

I watch him play and see a running qb, a lot of bubble screens and like I said last week 2 long passes for more than 1/2 his yards that didn't define accuracy or greatness .......

throwing it up for grabs into double coverage ......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4GpH...feature=relmfu

pathetic iggles, open by 2 yards .......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxwOCxF1hW0

[HAIL2BNG]

So you would take him over Luck or not? Simple straight forward question, yes or no?

Yes. I think Luck will be great. I think Griffin will redefine the position.

I think any and all comparisons to Vick are ignorant and myopic. His talent exceeds Vick and his character and intelligence are not even comparable. Despite the scheme he is in this season, I would compare him more to Steve Young.

[The Eternal White Belt]

clever with the twerp, troll, that's never been used on here before .......

ok clueless, let me try again .......

I have compared him favorably to mike vick, a 1st pick over all, one of the most talented athletes to enter the league and a qb that won playoff games and single handly turned around a franchise and was ne of, if not the fastest guy in the league ......

keeping with the premise of this thread, he is not the next manning or brady and in my opinion, doesn't have that tool kit ......

andrew luck is the classic qb like them .......

I watch him play and see a running qb, a lot of bubble screens and like I said last week 2 long passes for more than 1/2 his yards that didn't define accuracy or greatness .......

throwing it up for grabs into double coverage ......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4GpH...feature=relmfu

pathetic iggles, open by 2 yards .......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxwOCxF1hW0

Did you see the flag thrown right in front of his face? Do you think maybe he figured "I've got nothing to lose" on that play?

[HAIL2BNG]

I've never seen a wide open receiver held against a guy either. I am sure one of those overthrows that Flacco leads the NFL in, a guy was probably wide open. Regardless, Griffin hit the receiver in stride.

[Baltimore Ravens Lets Go!]

I've never seen a wide open receiver held against a guy either. I am sure one of those overthrows that Flacco leads the NFL in, a guy was probably wide open. Regardless, Griffin hit the receiver in stride.

You apparently being a Redskin fan and all don't watch many Ravens games because if you watched Flacco's games (especially at home) he has streaks where he makes pinpoint throws in between defenders with ease. He also seldom misses anyone wide open. because the Ravens seldom have anyone that wide open. He has thrown the best deep balls (accuracy and distance) I have seen since Unitas and Bert Jones, pretty darn good QB company to be compared to.

The Redskins have had at least one great NFL QB that I watched in his prime and that was Jurgenson (probably you never saw him in action). RGIII will never be as good as Sonny. Now there was a guy with a cannon arm and the accuracy to go with it, despite his pot gut and non-athletic build. If you want to tout a great Redskins QB go with Sonny.

RGIII is not going to re-define the position. His running is going to get him killed and his pocket passing isn't as good as Luck, much less Rogers, Brady, Brees, Ben, Rivers, Flacco, Cutler, Eli, and Peyton. I think he really isn't any better than Russell Wilson at this point or Andy Dalton. His running is a flaw not an attribute. You just don't get it. Watch more football and learn.

[HAIL2BNG]

I watch plenty of Ravens games. That's how I know Flacco is a 50/50 guy. Some games he looks like an elite QB and others he's horrible.

Thanks for the opinion on Sonny, gramps.

He's the first rookie to win player of the week twice. That includes Vick. You can try to say he is with Wilson and Dalton and try to sneak Flacco in there with the elites but the stats say one guy is part of the elite group and its the one who also can run the ball. Get over it.

[BlandFood]

Actually, only three idiots don't agree with me.

So you have 4 personalities and 3 of them don't like you either? :shrug:

[Baltimore Ravens Lets Go!]

I watch plenty of Ravens games. That's how I know Flacco is a 50/50 guy. Some games he looks like an elite QB and others he's horrible.

Thanks for the opinion on Sonny, gramps.

He's the first rookie to win player of the week twice. That includes Vick. You can try to say he is with Wilson and Dalton and try to sneak Flacco in there with the elites but the stats say one guy is part of the elite group and its the one who also can run the ball. Get over it.

I never said Flacco is elite but he is night and day better than overated rookie named RGIII right now, unless playing Fantasy football which I personally don't give a crap about. Unlike you, I care about real games.

[Baltimore Ravens Lets Go!]

So you have 4 personalities and 3 of them don't like you either? :shrug:

OUch! That had to hurt!!

[Eastside Terp]

I think any and all comparisons to Vick are ignorant and myopic.

on further reflection you are right ........

RG3 hasn't earned that comparison yet but he has all the tools and potential to be as dominating as a young mike vick (good arms and the only 2 QB's that could contend for nfl fastest man) .......

heck, atlanta even traded away their future to move up and get vick like the skins did .......

I know its fashionable to look down on vick in hindsight after all that has happened but when he came into this league he redefined the position and brought a run / throw combination the league had never seen ........

he did things that amazed us as will rg3 but the issue is how will that translate into long term success in the nfl and more importantly, winning and championships .......

go watch some 2002, 2003, etc. highlights and listen to john madden, etc gush about vick and close your eyes and you will think you are listening to skins game .......

[HAIL2BNG]

Yeah, his 44% completion percentage and 62.7 QBR sure were something. Vick has had exactly ONE season where he completed 60% of his passes. Throw in the fact that RG3 is many times brighter and you have what I keep repeating and you keep ignoring.

[Eastside Terp]

Yeah, his 44% completion percentage and 62.7 QBR sure were something. Vick has had exactly ONE season where he completed 60% of his passes. Throw in the fact that RG3 is many times brighter and you have what I keep repeating and you keep ignoring.

and I keep telling you you have to actually watch the game, not just look at stats .......

this info is a little dated but confirms what I have been saying about the skins using him well and a factor for the high completion percentage .....

this was a month ago and I don't have the latest stats because its not tracked like this but the concept is the same ........

Griffin has managed to do this with a concentrated short passing game, which is evidenced by him only attempting 13 passes over 20 yards of which he has completed only 5. Roughly 75% of his passes this year have traveled 10 yards or less.

http://www.steelersdepot.com/2012/10...ecause-of-yac/

[AFKAR7]

Yes. I think Luck will be great. I think Griffin will redefine the position.

I have been hearing that about guys who have been drafted at that posititon since Randall Cunningham in 1985. I won't believe it until its done and that means winning SB's. For now I would stick with traditional pocket passers. It's nothing against Griffin who I think will be a good QB.