RGIII beats Andrew Luck

[BlandFood]

Then he will need to officially change his name to:

Robert "Gimp" Griffith III. At least he can keep the same initials only it will be RGG III !

He may also need to have his vision tested so he won't again miss a flying Haloti Ngata coming right at him like a deadly missile!

BTW, I cannot believe this thread has 20,701 views. That has to be an error. If not it means thousands of readers have seen what a fool a certain DC/Yankee fan posters has made of himself for all to see!

Meh, I don't much care really one way or the other. both teams have their share of thugs...... Suggs for instance is a Sean Taylor thug waiting to happen.

I just happen to hate the Landovers even when they were Washington and lucky as all get out dating back to the Allen days. The fans were the most unknowledgeable pos this side of Indycrapolis!

[Baltimore Ravens Lets Go!]

I don't have to explain it. You're the one acting as if Garcon is the only reason for the wins so you need to explain how Griffin's stats are the same without him. Actually, don't bother, you're already painful to read. I don't need to see more ignorance from an old turd.

Oh NO JUNIOR you don't get off the hook that easy boy. You want to espouse stats all the time to claim how great your boy's performance at the QB position then AGAIN explain how come when he has stats that are the SAME essentially in every game that your team LOSES almost EVERY SINGLE game that GARCON isnt playing? In other words, the X FACTOR by LOGIC or even COMMON SENSE DICTATES that GARCON is the TRUE, LEGIT reason you team has won the games they have won all but one. SO YOU LIVE BY THE STATS BOY, You go down by the STATS son! Its that simple. You can't have it both ways YankeeSkin boy. DEAL WITH it and stop being such a flim flam WEASEL.

[Dre]

Ok junior. Then explain if gimp's stats are the same in all those losses when Garcon doesn't play and are the same when he does play during all those wins why such a descrepancy (which is night and day desparate) in the W-L record without/with Garcon? Cmon genius, explain that? I guarantee you that you can't.

That's an overly simplistic way of looking at it though. For example, while the Redskins are 6-1 with Garçon, he's only clearly been a factor in 4 of their victories. So that means that the Redskins were able to produce 3 other wins, despite poor performances by Garçon (one of which he wasn't even present to contribute in).

There's no denying Griffin has the makeup to be a very good QB. 13 consecutive weeks of solid play, have helped pretty much prove that. You saw sporadic flashes of this brilliance from guys like Vick and Young, and never this kind of consistency. The fact that Griffin underperformed by his standards versus us, and yet still put up a decent stat line, tells you he's no scrub.

Imo, Griffin is often compared to guys like Vick and Newton, more so because of their race, as opposed to anything else. Anyone having watched Griffin knows he's not nearly the elusive runner Vick was. He's just really explosive on take off, which is equal parts surprising as it is difficult to defend against. Coupled with his speed, this makes Griffin harder to catch in the open field. Vick was much more of an evader (similar to A&M's Johnny Manziel). Newton is just a more lumbering version of Peterson, dude just muscles his way through the opposing d. Newton has literally carried guys trying to tackle him, for extra yardage. I just don't see that many similarities in their playing styles (other than in the position they play and their ability to run), to warrant the three being likened to one another.

Ultimately it's not so much a QBs ability to run/scramble that worries me. It's a porous o-line. A QB will have an extremely short shelf life if they are not well protected. There's no two ways around that. Griffin's injury is more an indirect result of his lack of protection. He does not have the luxury of extra time to hold on to the football. So when he senses an opportunity, he may take off with his legs. By most accounts, Griffin has actually vastly outperformed his o-line's production.

The Redskins need to absolutely retool that o-line, or Griffin will end up like Kolb and Skelton in Arizona, Jay Cutler in Chicago, et al. Aaron Rodgers himself suffered a minor calf injury earlier in the year, but more concerning has been his well documented concussion history. To the point that many wondered whether he'd be around to showcase his brilliance for much longer.

[HAIL2BNG]

Oh NO JUNIOR you don't get off the hook that easy boy. You want to espouse stats all the time to claim how great your boy's performance at the QB position then AGAIN explain how come when he has stats that are the SAME essentially in every game that your team LOSES almost EVERY SINGLE game that GARCON isnt playing? In other words, the X FACTOR by LOGIC or even COMMON SENSE DICTATES that GARCON is the TRUE, LEGIT reason you team has won the games they have won all but one. SO YOU LIVE BY THE STATS BOY, You go down by the STATS son! Its that simple. You can't have it both ways YankeeSkin boy. DEAL WITH it and stop being such a flim flam WEASEL.

I said the stats are the same and can prove it. You need to prove Garçon is the reason for the wins. You can't so you should just STFU but that's something you should have done five pages ago.

[Baltimore Ravens Lets Go!]

I said the stats are the same and can prove it. You need to prove Garçon is the reason for the wins. You can't so you should just STFU but that's something you should have done five pages ago.

You have the maturity level of a three year old. No, I take that back as it is insulting to all three year olds! I called you on this, made the first serve so to speak, and instead of returning it like a man, you run off the court like a mouse. No surprise here. Just remember others read these threads. Your true color is showing jack.

[HAIL2BNG]

As expected, you've got nothing. Care to tell me what maturity level, or lack thereof, is required to go crying at the Sun's headquarters over being banned from this board? That's gotta be one of the saddest things I've ever heard.

[Rael]

RG3 aside, all this talk of Garcon as the difference maker I think is kind of silly. He is a fine receiver but he is no Megatron or even a Roddy. To think that he alone makes the difference between a winning and losing team seems like a bit of a stretch to me.

[Baltimore Ravens Lets Go!]

As expected, you've got nothing. Care to tell me what maturity level, or lack thereof, is required to go crying at the Sun's headquarters over being banned from this board? That's gotta be one of the saddest things I've ever heard.

Not as sorry as the mere fact you post here all the time when you are too dense to realize you are about as welcome as a Snakehead in the Potomac River!

[HAIL2BNG]

RG3 aside, all this talk of Garcon as the difference maker I think is kind of silly. He is a fine receiver but he is no Megatron or even a Roddy. To think that he alone makes the difference between a winning and losing team seems like a bit of a stretch to me.

Well, when a particular poster's sole point is to diminish the talents of RG3, that's what you get, especially when that poster has no leg to stand on. We are 13 games in and the kid is leading the NFL is passer rating, is 5th is completion percentage and leads the league in yards per attempt and fewest interceptions. Its beyond stupid to try and act like Griffin isn't special but some people are beyond stupid.

[allballfan]

Well, when a particular poster's sole point is to diminish the talents of RG3, that's what you get, especially when that poster has no leg to stand on. We are 13 games in and the kid is leading the NFL is passer rating, is 5th is completion percentage and leads the league in yards per attempt and fewest interceptions. Its beyond stupid to try and act like Griffin isn't special but some people are beyond stupid.

his problem is that he realizes that after 16 years, the Crows are old, old, old, and after years of being also rans to the Pats and the Steelers, are now on the edge of an epic collapse into total obscurity and little hope in sight, and maybe just maybe the nightmares with the yellow and green vans are starting to play in his head. We know what support this city gives a loser, and LA awaits

Meanwhile, the Skins are poised to embark on a 6-10 year run behind several electric players and excellent coaching, and if it doesn't quite work, well the fans have proven they'll still be there.

HEYRAVENSLETSGOTOLA

[allballfan]

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[Dre]

his problem is that he realizes that after 16 years, the Crows are old, old, old...

The Ravens are younger collectively than the Redskins bro. That being said, our age isn't the problem, as it's not hard to find cheap, good, young value deep in the draft, as well as in free agency, for depth at key positions (positions we're aging at―e.g., middle line backer and free safety). It just takes rather careful outlining/spending.

Our main problem, has been Flacco's lack of evolution (as a QB). But as has been proven in Cincy, San Fran and Seattle (and back in 2000 and 2003 with Boston and Dallas respectively), talent is attainable at that position, even in the later rounds of the draft. I thought the Texans signed a real gem in the undrafted Keenum, the biggest things working against him in this year's draft, were his height and the FBS conference he played in (C-USA).

[Rael]

The Ravens are younger collectively than the Redskins bro.

Don't confuse that poor child with facts...

[Baltimore Ravens Lets Go!]

As I have espoused and showing to be spot on in my acessment, Andrew Luck was a far superior draft pick and it is most likely his career in the NFL will continue to support this is so:


http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/r...ins-say-121712


You cannot help your team sitting on the sidelines injured. This is precisely why running QB's don't suceed as well in the NFL as the more prototypical player at the position, i.e. the Mannings, Brees, Brady, et al. To the Redskins credit though, they were smart enough to draft Kirk Cousins, most likely for this very reason. In the long run Couisins will probably have at least more trade value and possibly even a better career than Vick Jr. will.