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    Default Dead people voted and registered to vote, watchdog group finds

    http://marylandreporter.com/2012/09/...-on-the-rolls/

    "If you don’t look for fraud, you won’t find it

    “Since no one is looking from the State Board of Elections or even within the legislature, EIM continues to look for evidence of irregularities and fraud,” she said. “With what we have found in just about 1% of the total voter rolls in Maryland, we have only just begun.”

    Election Integrity Maryland has become a thorn in the side to many election officials. It has reviewed over 35,000 voter registration files in Maryland and has filed 11,000 irregularity challenges this year with local election boards. The group incorporated in July 2011 and began its research operations last November. It has a team of over 125 researchers, and each county has a leader."

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    Isn't EIM an endeavor of Tea Party activists?

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    If so ~ why don't they mention that on their site?

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    Quote Originally Posted by octoburn View Post
    Isn't EIM an endeavor of Tea Party activists?

    Linky

    If so ~ why don't they mention that on their site?
    Why should they?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MDCivilServant View Post
    http://marylandreporter.com/2012/09/...-on-the-rolls/

    "If you don’t look for fraud, you won’t find it

    “Since no one is looking from the State Board of Elections or even within the legislature, EIM continues to look for evidence of irregularities and fraud,” she said. “With what we have found in just about 1% of the total voter rolls in Maryland, we have only just begun.”

    Election Integrity Maryland has become a thorn in the side to many election officials. It has reviewed over 35,000 voter registration files in Maryland and has filed 11,000 irregularity challenges this year with local election boards. The group incorporated in July 2011 and began its research operations last November. It has a team of over 125 researchers, and each county has a leader."
    Judging from your comments, I must assume you are bias against the 'encephalographically challenged' citizens in our state.

    You mean bigot, you!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by octoburn View Post
    Isn't EIM an endeavor of Tea Party activists?

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    If so ~ why don't they mention that on their site?
    Kind of funny that you criticize someone for not mentioning who they are, yet you post on here using the name "octoburn". Sure, let's take anything you say seriously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yosh View Post
    Kind of funny that you criticize someone for not mentioning who they are, yet you post on here using the name "octoburn". Sure, let's take anything you say seriously.
    I'm not fronting an organization claiming to be nonpartisan. I simply asked if it was an endeavor of Tea Party activists.

    Even if they are, I hope that any fraudulent activity they uncover is examined and appropriate action taken against those who voted fraudulently if that is actually the case.

    I find it funny that just raising the question would upset some people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by octoburn View Post
    I'm not fronting an organization claiming to be nonpartisan. I simply asked if it was an endeavor of Tea Party activists.

    Even if they are, I hope that any fraudulent activity they uncover is examined and appropriate action taken against those who voted fraudulently if that is actually the case.

    I find it funny that just raising the question would upset some people.
    If its fraud, its fraud- key word "IF", what difference does it make who uncovers it? Except it should be an embarassment to those whos job it is to uncover it, as they should be the ones finding it. But, it - voter fraud-- of course does not exist- we all know that. How do we know that? I dunno, its never been explained as far as I can tell, we just know it.

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    This is fraud at its finest. Anyone shocked? Not me. It's Maryland for crissakes. The Board of Elections, like most of Maryland's agencies, is a farse. And this is nothing compared to the welfare fraud that's running rampent in this state. How else can you explain the thousands upon thousands of non-working types and illegals setting up house here, one of the most expensive states to live in the country?

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    Quote Originally Posted by octoburn View Post
    I'm not fronting an organization claiming to be nonpartisan. I simply asked if it was an endeavor of Tea Party activists.

    Even if they are, I hope that any fraudulent activity they uncover is examined and appropriate action taken against those who voted fraudulently if that is actually the case.

    I find it funny that just raising the question would upset some people.
    I don't think it upset anyone. But the importance of who did uncover the potential fraud is not even a relevant question considering it should be everyones duty to report a crime against the right of all voters.

    Why does it upset you?

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    This organization was formed in 2011 -- coincedently when it became apparent that poor and minority votes would be more important than ever in the 2012 Presidential race, and people don't think the motives of the group are important. It would be interesting to see a socio-economic breakdown of this group's 11,000 "irregularity" filings.

    The messianic fervor of our protect-the-vote friends would be amusing if it weren't for their willingness to make voting more difficult for tens of thousands to catch a few dozen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phineas Finn View Post
    This organization was formed in 2011 -- coincedently when it became apparent that poor and minority votes would be more important than ever in the 2012 Presidential race, and people don't think the motives of the group are important. It would be interesting to see a socio-economic breakdown of this group's 11,000 "irregularity" filings.

    The messianic fervor of our protect-the-vote friends would be amusing if it weren't for their willingness to make voting more difficult for tens of thousands to catch a few dozen.

    And partisans on the left never play games with military ballots or absentee voters?

    But back to the subject, I would rather have the Govt it self police the voter rolls, clear out the dead and duplicates, and search for fraud. But they don't. So I say GOOD FOR THESES GUYS for doing it. If it is selective maybe someone else should start searching for wealthy cheaters that vote from their multiple homes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonsensback View Post
    Why should they?
    Because a donation to them is TAX Deductible, they mention that. They need to mention where the money goes to! That is also integrity!

    Second they are only looking for in person fraud. Not absentee fraud which the post ran an interesting piece on today.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/politi...y.html?hpid=z3

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    “The majority of submitted names of voters identified as ‘challenged’ by Election Integrity are individuals who are currently classified as inactive voters on the Maryland State Voter registry,” Montgomery County Election Board spokeswoman Marjorie Roher wrote in a Sept. 21 email. “The term ‘inactive’ means that the Board of Elections mailed an official document to the voter and it was returned to the Board.”

    If a voter with an “inactive” status does not vote in two federal elections, they are supposed to be changed to “cancelled.” Kelleher said she suspects that many of the “inactive” voters are dead.



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    Interesting from your link. They seem to be challenging people the state is in the process of addressing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yosh View Post
    Kind of funny that you criticize someone for not mentioning who they are, yet you post on here using the name "octoburn". Sure, let's take anything you say seriously.
    Donations to octoburn are not tax deductible!

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    Quote Originally Posted by demopublican View Post
    And partisans on the left never play games with military ballots or absentee voters?

    But back to the subject, I would rather have the Govt it self police the voter rolls, clear out the dead and duplicates, and search for fraud. But they don't. So I say GOOD FOR THESES GUYS for doing it. If it is selective maybe someone else should start searching for wealthy cheaters that vote from their multiple homes.
    Agreed. The power of the vote is one of the last rights that haven't been manipulated by the powers in this country. It is very important that the vote remain on the up and up. Not only should the fraud be exposed and corrected, but anyone that abuses this right should be held responsible to the fullest extent of the law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ybnormal View Post
    This is fraud at its finest. Anyone shocked? Not me. It's Maryland for crissakes. The Board of Elections, like most of Maryland's agencies, is a farse. And this is nothing compared to the welfare fraud that's running rampent in this state. How else can you explain the thousands upon thousands of non-working types and illegals setting up house here, one of the most expensive states to live in the country?
    The problem, and is said in the "article" provided, is that they rely on others to inform them of a voters death. If no one tells them the person is dead than they can't do anything. Secondly if a voter is in a care facility and gets an absentee ballot today files it out tomorrow and dies next week than that is a legal vote. These guys are stabbing in the dark and that is OK but they need to not pretend that 11,000 submissions using their out of date GOP provided database is 11,000 cases of fraud. Additionally don't claim to be non-partisan and a charitable donation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by demopublican View Post
    And partisans on the left never play games with military ballots or absentee voters?

    But back to the subject, I would rather have the Govt it self police the voter rolls, clear out the dead and duplicates, and search for fraud. But they don't. So I say GOOD FOR THESES GUYS for doing it. If it is selective maybe someone else should start searching for wealthy cheaters that vote from their multiple homes.
    But absentee voter fraud exists. If we need to protect from fraud than we need to protect that too and if that means it is harder for some people to vote.....same concept!

    If you need to make it difficult for some to prevent fraud than the logic needs to apply to all. No one gets a walk because of their occupation!

    Of 867 cases of documented voter fraud since 2000 only 7 where in person!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jtowne-swim View Post
    Because a donation to them is TAX Deductible, they mention that. They need to mention where the money goes to! That is also integrity!

    Second they are only looking for in person fraud. Not absentee fraud which the post ran an interesting piece on today.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/politi...y.html?hpid=z3
    political donations are tax deductible?

    http://www.doughroller.net/taxes/are...ax-deductable/

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    Quote Originally Posted by demopublican View Post
    And partisans on the left never play games with military ballots or absentee voters?

    But back to the subject, I would rather have the Govt it self police the voter rolls, clear out the dead and duplicates, and search for fraud. But they don't. So I say GOOD FOR THESES GUYS for doing it. If it is selective maybe someone else should start searching for wealthy cheaters that vote from their multiple homes.

    Like the canidate who voted in Maryland & Florida and withdrew from the race?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saticon3 View Post
    political donations are tax deductible?

    http://www.doughroller.net/taxes/are...ax-deductable/
    Read their website!!!!!

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