Hopkins' Carey Business school - Is it worth going?

[skeemer]

FYI - I've been on this forum twice in one week. I feel like I am now neglecting my girlfriend. It's ok...forums are more important that her, right??

lolwut

[atomic]

Accreditation: Not one recruiter has asked me about this. Probably because it doesn't mean much when they hire people that graduate from Johns Hopkins. Johns Hopkins (regardless of the program) is thought of very highly.

Why are you so concerned about this particular topic? Would a AACSB accreditation make your education experience better? Do you think you will get more employers looking at you?

It is Johns Hopkins.......I am very confident that they have been incredibly successful at creating world class programs without any of your help and I am sure that they know what they are doing with the business school. The overall university was ranked incredibly highly on a global level years before you were born and I will go ahead and let them handle this particular 'issue' as well.

To all of the people giving their opinion about this 'issue': Unless you work for AACSB or have 20+ years of experience in academia, please don't speculate about the importance of it. The school won't have a magic wand waved over it once JHU applies for and gains the accreditation. The school doesn't want to focus on this right now because it is busy working on making the overall experience for the students and faculty better. They want to set it up so that when they do apply for and gain the accreditation, they are ranked in the top 25. Now....let's hear all the naysayers tell me how JHU will never be top 25.....

FYI - I've been on this forum twice in one week. I feel like I am now neglecting my girlfriend. It's ok...forums are more important that her, right??

it all comes down to whether you are lazy or not. You are going to have a higher caliber quality of classmates at university of maryland business school. You would have to work hard to get into maryland. To get into hopkins is easy. Maryland is a top rated school. Hopkins is not. You are trying to take the easy way out and use Hopkins undergraduate and medical school reputation to hope the employer won't notice you went to a sub-par business college.

Choice is yours. work hard and get a top degree. or slide by and go to hopkins. Unless you have a terrible undergraduate gpa i don't really see why you would pick hopkins.

[SK1985]

Work hard and get into UMD or be lazy and go to JHU?

How about this: Work hard and go to HBS, Columbia, Yale, Wharton, etc. With a median GMAT score of 650, I don't have to work very hard to get into UMD. UMD is a good school and I would not speak badly about them, but I highly disagree with your thought process. If I go anywhere outside of the Maryland area, the Johns Hopkins name carries dramatically more weight than UMD. I could go to any part of the world and the Johns Hopkins MBA would turn heads. You can say that this is due to the medical and the undergrad programs being highly ranked, but all I know is that when I say that I have a JHU MBA.... it turns heads.

In addition, we are comparing Johns Hopkins to UMD....a 5 year old business school to one that has been around for 90 years. If people are debating between a 5 year old program versus a 90 year old program....imagine where Johns Hopkins business school will be in 5 more years. Don't hate....be realistic. People talked this way about Yale when they created their business school about 40 years ago, but once again....Yale's name carries a lot of weight and they were able to create a top MBA program within 15 years.

[The Eternal White Belt]

You can say that this is due to the medical and the undergrad programs being highly ranked, but all I know is that when I say that I have a JHU MBA.... it turns heads.

So, you lie to people about having an MBA? Earlier you said that you don't graduate until next year (May 2013). Wow... I see ethics is not a subject of emphasis at JHU. Interesting. Either that, or everything you've said is a fabrication, so you are forgetting your lies. Either way you are a liar.

In addition, we are comparing Johns Hopkins to UMD....a 5 year old business school to one that has been around for 90 years. If people are debating between a 5 year old program versus a 90 year old program....imagine where Johns Hopkins business school will be in 5 more years.

1. There's no debate. One is consistently ranked and the other isn't.
2. The only reason they are being compared is geography.
3. Someone compared your school to Morgan State earlier.... they've been around for 37 years! Imagine where JHU could be in that time! Maybe they'll be accredited by then!

Don't hate....be realistic. People talked this way about Yale when they created their business school about 40 years ago, but once again....Yale's name carries a lot of weight and they were able to create a top MBA program within 15 years.

No one cares about your school or this program. You don't care either. My guess is that you work as some weird PR role at the university, and you created the original post, along with these others to make it seem like your school is "hot" and stir up debate. Nice try - actually everything you've said basically reflects poorly on the school and its students. Good job. Interesting how the OP never showed up again to respond to this thread... oh wait... you'll just log back into that account and respond to prove me wrong.

Wait... now you can't do that because I've already called you out on it.

[SK1985]

The Eternal White Belt...you are an idiot lol

Do I need to get a lawyer now to respond on forums? I graduate in May 2013, but when I tell people that I am going to JHU for an MBA they are clearly impressed (sorry....I didn't realize I had to recheck all of my sentences prior to clicking 'submit'). JHU can't be ranked because it is a 5 year old program and for you to compare JHU to Morgan State shows how knowledgeable you are. By all means, apply to Morgan State and work hard and you will get in. Please don't apply to JHU and if you do, let me know so I can inform admissions that you aren't even remotely intelligent enough to go to JHU. Morgan State has been around for 37 years, but it is morgan state....Johns Hopkins is on a dramatically higher scale. I am sure Morgan State does a good job of cultivating its students, but it's no JHU.

Log into my other account and 'stir up debate' hahaha You forum geeks have way too much time on your hands.

FYI - Please apply to Morgan State and stop being jealous of Johns Hopkins students. Jealously makes you appear ugly haha

[The Eternal White Belt]

The Eternal White Belt...you are an idiot lol

Sure. Excellent argument.

Do I need to get a lawyer now to respond on forums? I graduate in May 2013, but when I tell people that I am going to JHU for an MBA they are clearly impressed (sorry....I didn't realize I had to recheck all of my sentences prior to clicking 'submit').

1. If you weren't lying, you wouldn't need to check your sentences.
2. Your constant need to impress people and gain the approval of others is quite sad.

JHU can't be ranked because it is a 5 year old program and for you to compare JHU to Morgan State shows how knowledgeable you are. By all means, apply to Morgan State and work hard and you will get in. Please don't apply to JHU and if you do, let me know so I can inform admissions that you aren't even remotely intelligent enough to go to JHU. Morgan State has been around for 37 years, but it is morgan state....Johns Hopkins is on a dramatically higher scale. I am sure Morgan State does a good job of cultivating its students, but it's no JHU.

You completely missed the point. You have done an excellent job of demonstrating your intelligence.

Log into my other account and 'stir up debate' hahaha You forum geeks have way too much time on your hands.

I guess you are one of us now. Hopefully your girlfriend is not feeling neglected. It's cool that JHU pays you to post on forums though. Neat.

FYI - Please apply to Morgan State and stop being jealous of Johns Hopkins students. Jealously makes you appear ugly haha

An MBA would pretty much be worthless to me and I already have my masters, so I don't need to apply anywhere. Morgan State would likely not accept me, as I am not a minority. Thanks for the suggestion though. I'll let you know if I require any career advice in the future.

The funny thing is, is that I never actually talked ***** on your school, yet you feel the need to come on here and argue about it. You seem mentally unstable.

[JohnGlen]

Ok, this can stop.

The posters 'Eternal White Belt' and 'Atomic' are what we call trolls; people with literally nothing else to do with their lives except hang out on obscure internet forums and provoke responses out of people. It's annoying and undermines legitimate discourse, but there is only so much porn and Halo these people can entertain in a day, so they fill their final hours harassing people on BaltSun forums.

To all who are interested in Hopkins Carey, please be in touch with the admissions office or reach out to a current student on Linkedin. Unfortunately this isn't proving to be the most fruitful medium for reasoned discussion.

[Good morning Baltimore]

Another program which is accredited to consider is Loyola University's Sellinger School of Business.

[atomic]

Ok, this can stop.

The posters 'Eternal White Belt' and 'Atomic' are what we call trolls; people with literally nothing else to do with their lives except hang out on obscure internet forums and provoke responses out of people. It's annoying and undermines legitimate discourse, but there is only so much porn and Halo these people can entertain in a day, so they fill their final hours harassing people on BaltSun forums.

To all who are interested in Hopkins Carey, please be in touch with the admissions office or reach out to a current student on Linkedin. Unfortunately this isn't proving to be the most fruitful medium for reasoned discussion.

Hopkins lets in 80 percent of the people who apply to their MBA program. Someone asked for advice and I gave it to them. It is not a ranked program. Not even second tier. I suggest that the person work harder to get in a program that will be worth the money and effort they spent on it. That is not trolling. It is constructive advice.

The easiest path is most often not the most rewarding. It is like all these people going to law school and not being able to re-pay their student loans. If you can't get into a top 40 law school than don't attend. You won't recoup the money you spent. If Hopkins is one day rated and one day is an elite school my opinion would change.

[atomic]

Ok, this can stop.

The posters 'Eternal White Belt' and 'Atomic' are what we call trolls; people with literally nothing else to do with their lives except hang out on obscure internet forums and provoke responses out of people. It's annoying and undermines legitimate discourse, but there is only so much porn and Halo these people can entertain in a day, so they fill their final hours harassing people on BaltSun forums.

To all who are interested in Hopkins Carey, please be in touch with the admissions office or reach out to a current student on Linkedin. Unfortunately this isn't proving to be the most fruitful medium for reasoned discussion.

Look you are only posts in these forums is on this topic. Yeah I am sure when someone contacts you at your admission office you would give them neutral advice. (Sarcasm)

[JohnGlen]

Sigh. The argument that Carey is cruising on the reputation of it's undergrad and medical schools and is therefore not a quality program is completely bogus. One, Carey offers an undergrad degree, so it's part of the undergraduate school. Two, you can't really separate Carey from the other schools at Hopkins. As a Carey student I've taken classes at the #1 ranked SAIS (school of international studies) the #1 ranked Bloomberg school (public health) and at the medical school. And those students in turn take courses at Carey. Third, many of the classes are cross listed (for example, Business of Medicine classes), so the Carey classes are the med school classes, and - again - you are taking classes with students from across the university. You can harp about quality all you want, but you have no idea.

Carey admits 80% of it's applicants? I'd be interested to see the source of that data... hmm... But regardless, I didn't know admissions rates were what we were judging the school on. Wharton's eMBA program admits 44% of applicants, a relatively high number. Does that make it not worth attending? Moreover, programs like those at Carey that have specialized formats (Healthcare MBA, Real Estate MBA, Design MBA, etc.) will draw from a much smaller pool of interested students; those who aren't qualified self-select out by not applying. So while the quality of students is high, there will be fewer students applying to the programs and thus fewer rejections. A better gauge is things like test scores and GPA. Last I heard, GPA was around 3.3 and rising. Georgetown's program (I compare them because they both have DC campuses and similar applicant pools) also has a 3.3 average GPA score for their students and 55% admission rate. So in student GPA scores Carey, a brand new program, is awfully close to long-established, highly ranked business schools.

And again, Carey is a new program. The quality is obviously there, but it takes time to build a reputation and large applicant pool. At the risk of sounding like I am repeating myself, Carey isn't ranked because it isn't accredited, it isn't accredited because you need to have a full time program to gain accreditation. And you need to have a full-time program for some number of years before that accreditation is granted. So all this "not even ranked" "not even tier 2" talk is completely irrelevant and misleading. Accreditation is a process and it takes time. When they do get accreditation, and do get ranked, and they rank outside the top 25, come back and we'll argue about how Carey isn't living up to the Hopkins name. Until then... well, Halo 3 just came out, so I'm sure you've got other things to keep you occupied.

[The Eternal White Belt]

Wait, I thought you said this can stop? You obviously have plenty of free time, as you seem to keep coming back over and over again. I see you are closely monitoring video game release schedules, must not have to study much. No one gives a sh it about you or your fuking school and your ruse has failed. Everyone sees you for what you are - a JHU employee doing a crap job of drumming up discussion about the school. All you've done is make your students look like arrogant a- holes who are desperate for approval and acceptance.

Would it make you feel better if I told you I was proud of you? No? Then GTFO.

[Eastside Terp]

was just reading this today on forbes ......

http://www.mba50.com/mba50-com-premiership-2012-u-s/

[ProspectiveMBAstudent13]

Thanks all for the discussion. I am shopping around several MBA programs for Fall 2013 or Spring 2014, including Hopkins, UMD Smith, and Georgetown.

Hopkins has several advantages for me: its flexibility in terms of location and time to complete the program, as well as its slightly lower cost. However, I am deeply concerned by the lack of accreditation. At the end of the day, Hopkins is a great brand and has excellent reputation for undergrad and its medical programs, but its not even on the radar for business.

Could some current or former Carey MBAs talk about why you chose Hopkins over Smith or Georgetown (assuming you had the option of going there.) and how well the Carey name resonates with potential employers?

thanks in advance.

[The Eternal White Belt]

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