Benghazi Attack

[reg_indy]

But they knew the truth from the get go. Which still means they knew the info they were telling the Americans was false. So why then say anything at all. The only logical reason is to get everyone on board with the protest spin.

If it weren't for the 24 hour (cable) news cycle, this woudn't be an issue, as the government could investigate, and report findings (or not) as information is confirmed.

The demand for immediate info is one reason for the bruhaha...

[dsummoner]

If it weren't for the 24 hour (cable) news cycle, this woudn't be an issue, as the government could investigate, and report findings (or not) as information is confirmed.

The demand for immediate info is one reason for the bruhaha...

If it weren't for the 24 hour (cable) news cycle, the government could and would quietly sweep it under the rug.

[reg_indy]

If it weren't for the 24 hour (cable) news cycle, the government could and would quietly sweep it under the rug.

What are they sweeping under the rug? That it wan't called a terrorist attack enough times? The idiocy of McCain, et al, validates that option (sweeping).


Not sure which would be worse, in this case. Normally, I prefer shining a light on all things governmental, but this circus is outta control.

[soulflower]

If it weren't for the 24 hour (cable) news cycle, the government could and would quietly sweep it under the rug.

I don't recall this level of attention paid to the dozen or so embassy and consulate attacks that happened during the Bush years

[Mom49of4]

If it weren't for the 24 hour (cable) news cycle, the government could and would quietly sweep it under the rug.

I tend to agree with you.

[dsummoner]

What are they sweeping under the rug? That it wan't called a terrorist attack enough times? The idiocy of McCain, et al, validates that option (sweeping).


Not sure which would be worse, in this case. Normally, I prefer shining a light on all things governmental, but this circus is outta control.

In regards to the first: the exact and specific roles and responsibilities of Ambassador Stevens; the exact and specific roles and responsibilities of the CIA agents in Benghazi.

Keeping the focus on the "most transparent ever and 'evah" helps to keep the meddling shenanigans of the central regime in focus. The exposure of the idiotic and unjustified 'secrecy' policy of the USIC/regime is but one of the positive outcomes to have resulted from this latest Obamanian Bushblundering.

[dsummoner]

I don't recall this level of attention paid to the dozen or so embassy and consulate attacks that happened during the Bush years

One does not recall the previous attacks being peddled with the hoakum of 'videos and stuffs.'

[Byng]

I don't know but for two weeks or more after the attacks, Clinton and the WH were basically saying the same thing that the intelligence community told Rice and Congress, that there was a protest before the attacks and the terrorists were angry over the anti-Islam video.

Most of the news articles in the first week or so after the attacks also claimed that there was a protest. The intelligence community acknowledged that there was no protest weeks later. However, they still believe the attack was a response to the anti-Islam video...

The mess in Benghazi was a CIA mess and the only American involved not 'officially' working for the CIA, was Ambassador Stevens.

The CIA were obviously caught with their pants down by this attack, so any time they could buy, without telling the American people the truth was to the advantage of the Intelligence community while it circled the wagons to get their act together.

Obviously the timing also benefited the White house in the lead up to an election and although I doubt that there was any direct interference from the White Hose there would certainly not be any rush by the White House to get the true story out.

Anyone surprised that politicians would use politics with this situation are very naive at best.

The irony of course is that the Republicans who played political football with the death of dead Americans from day one and in Romney's case before day one are the ones shouting foul!

Seems like sour grapes to me by a party that was beaten at their own game. Best advice I can give them is don't start by playing politics and then complain when the other side wins the game!

[flyboy56]

I don't recall this level of attention paid to the dozen or so embassy and consulate attacks that happened during the Bush years

Is that really your argument for ignoring any future attacks on American Diplomatic Facilities? Do you stop and think that maybe quite a few Americans have voiced their anger whenever something like this happens regardless of which party is in office? Yet those neutral voices get drowned out by partisans on both sides.

[flyboy56]

The mess in Benghazi was a CIA mess and the only American involved not 'officially' working for the CIA, was Ambassador Stevens.

The CIA were obviously caught with their pants down by this attack, so any time they could buy, without telling the American people the truth was to the advantage of the Intelligence community while it circled the wagons to get their act together.

Obviously the timing also benefited the White house in the lead up to an election and although I doubt that there was any direct interference from the White Hose there would certainly not be any rush by the White House to get the true story out.

Anyone surprised that politicians would use politics with this situation are very naive at best.

The irony of course is that the Republicans who played political football with the death of dead Americans from day one and in Romney's case before day one are the ones shouting foul!

Seems like sour grapes to me by a party that was beaten at their own game. Best advice I can give them is don't start by playing politics and then complain when the other side wins the game!

And the White House's decision to play the lie out on Sunday talk shows is what has them looking either incompetent or worse, complicit with this deceitful tactic of trying to get a message out to Americans just before a major election has them now in a defensive mode.

[flyboy56]

What are they sweeping under the rug? That it wan't called a terrorist attack enough times? The idiocy of McCain, et al, validates that option (sweeping).


Not sure which would be worse, in this case. Normally, I prefer shining a light on all things governmental, but this circus is outta control.

1.That they knew well in advance of the attack that a security issue existed and failed to address the issue properly.

2. They did not want to let on that there was a problem with terrorists in the area, especially Al Qaida types because it would make their campaign slogan of "GM is alive and Bin Laden is dead" nothing but a cheap tactic to win votes.

[Byng]

And the White House's decision to play the lie out on Sunday talk shows is what has them looking either incompetent or worse, complicit with this deceitful tactic of trying to get a message out to Americans just before a major election has them now in a defensive mode.

Well good for the Republicans if they think that is the case, but it will not undo the election nor will it damage the Obama Administration to any significant degree.

Not for me to advise the Republican Party on damage control but I would respectfully suggest that their time might better be spent extending the middle-class Bush/Obama tax cuts and addressing the Fiscal Cliff and Dept Ceiling as the American voter obviously wants them to do. Rather than wasting time trying to sabotage Susan Rice so they can get John Kerry in at State and have Scott Brown contest his Senate seat.

Republicans playing politics again? Say it ain't so!

[soulflower]

One does not recall the previous attacks being peddled with the hoakum of 'videos and stuffs.'

The attacks were a response to the video according to Ansar Al Sharia...

[soulflower]

1.That they knew well in advance of the attack that a security issue existed and failed to address the issue properly.

2. They did not want to let on that there was a problem with terrorists in the area, especially Al Qaida types because it would make their campaign slogan of "GM is alive and Bin Laden is dead" nothing but a cheap tactic to win votes.

Al Qaeda as we know it is dead. The groups in North Africa are spin-offs...

[flyboy56]

The attacks were a response to the video according to Ansar Al Sharia...

So?! But were they protestors or trained terrorists? CIA said trained terrorists most likely Al Qaida trained offshoots.

Hillary Clinton will be on the hot seat soon enough.

[flyboy56]

Al Qaeda as we know it is dead. The groups in North Africa are spin-offs...

Are you sure of that? I don't think the intelligence agencies agree with that.

[soulflower]

So?! But were they protestors or trained terrorists? CIA said trained terrorists most likely Al Qaida trained offshoots.

They didn't need training from Al Qaeda. They were trained in real live combat during the Libyan civil war...

[flyboy56]

Well good for the Republicans if they think that is the case, but it will not undo the election nor will it damage the Obama Administration to any significant degree.

Not for me to advise the Republican Party on damage control but I would respectfully suggest that their time might better be spent extending the middle-class Bush/Obama tax cuts and addressing the Fiscal Cliff and Dept Ceiling as the American voter obviously wants them to do. Rather than wasting time trying to sabotage Susan Rice so they can get John Kerry in at State and have Scott Brown contest his Senate seat.

Republicans playing politics again? Say it ain't so!

Personally Byng if I had my way I would let the Democrats have everything they wish for and more. And that is the truth. Let's really see just how effective the government is at handling the economy and jobs. Republicans ought to just bow out and see what happens. "Go on, shoot up here. One of us has got to get some relieve!"

[Creekman]

The Republicans have settled into their talking points and are very comfortable with McCain, Ayotte, Collins being out front and all of whom went to Massachusetts to personally campaign for Scott Brown. A lot of people are starting to see through this naked political attempt to give Brown another shot at a U.S. Senate seat.

Everyone remembers McCain's support for Condelezza Rice when she was in a similar position in 20004. Now he is doing a 180 on Susan Rice. Of course with his boy toy Lindsay in tow whining all the way.

[flyboy56]

They didn't need training from Al Qaeda. They were trained in real live combat during the Libyan civil war...

Tactics aren't learned just by being in combat. Otherwise we wouldn't be training our military, we'd just recruit them and send them off to war.