Who is a bigger joke

[44Defense]

Who is a bigger joke the Yankees organization the past 10 years or the orioles? I would have to say the Yankees. Yes they are always contending for a title but they also choke every year with a 200 million dollar payroll. The yanks have 1 title but I believe they have underachieved more than any other franchise in sports!!!!! Can somebody name another. The Orioles are on their way up with almost a third of the payroll of the Yankees. What do u guys think??

[Buford]

Who is a bigger joke the Yankees organization the past 10 years or the orioles? I would have to say the Yankees. Yes they are always contending for a title but they also choke every year with a 200 million dollar payroll. The yanks have 1 title but I believe they have underachieved more than any other franchise in sports!!!!! Can somebody name another. The Orioles are on their way up with almost a third of the payroll of the Yankees. What do u guys think??

Orioles..hands down.

[PEZ]

Spankees and then Red Sox

[bmore_ken]

I'll take making the playoffs every year to not making the playoffs every year

[hector]

Who is a bigger joke the Yankees organization the past 10 years or the orioles? I would have to say the Yankees. Yes they are always contending for a title but they also choke every year with a 200 million dollar payroll. The yanks have 1 title but I believe they have underachieved more than any other franchise in sports!!!!! Can somebody name another. The Orioles are on their way up with almost a third of the payroll of the Yankees. What do u guys think??

The Yankees aren't a joke because they set high expectations every year and do what they need to do to meet them. The Orioles aren't a joke because before 2012, they set low expectations every year and met them.

The biggest joke by far is the Red Sox. They let beer and chicken destroy what had been an excellent team. Without their booze and chicken, the pampered players absolutely quit. The Red Sox brass then cut loose most of their high priced free agents (Agon, Crawford, Beckett) in a fit of panic confirming the obvious fact that the Red Sox are the biggest joke of all, from top to bottom.

By the way, did I mention that I brilliantly forecasted the Red Sox collapse back in March?

[SNAFU]

By the way, did I mention that I brilliantly forecasted the Red Sox collapse back in March?

You da man! By the way, what's next year's forecast?

[hector]

You da man! By the way, what's next year's forecast?

Glad you asked - the O's go 84-78 in 2013 and miss the playoffs. The Red Sox win 88 games and compete for a wildcard.

I'd like to ask you a semi-unrelated question - I think that Buford has a superb avatar. Do you agree?

[SNAFU]

Glad you asked - the O's go 84-78 in 2013 and miss the playoffs. The Red Sox win 88 games and compete for a wildcard.

I'd like to ask you a semi-unrelated question - I think that Buford has a superb avatar. Do you agree?

You should tell him that. Don't ask me, I could give a s**t less!

[Baltimore Ravens Lets Go!]

Yes the Yankee$ organization is a joke and the biggest choking team to make the playoffs year after year. They are a very appropriate team though for the ownership and their fans, especially the handful of arrogant trolls who post here regularly. JOKE is a very appropos term for them and everything an everyone associated with them except Derek Jeter.He's the real deal.

[ivanbalt]

The Yankees aren't a joke because they set high expectations every year and do what they need to do to meet them. The Orioles aren't a joke because before 2012, they set low expectations every year and met them.

The biggest joke by far is the Red Sox. They let beer and chicken destroy what had been an excellent team. Without their booze and chicken, the pampered players absolutely quit. The Red Sox brass then cut loose most of their high priced free agents (Agon, Crawford, Beckett) in a fit of panic confirming the obvious fact that the Red Sox are the biggest joke of all, from top to bottom.

By the way, did I mention that I brilliantly forecasted the Red Sox collapse back in March?

How'd the prediction of a Yankees collapse work out?

[hector]

How'd the prediction of a Yankees collapse work out?

Pretty good, I'd say. After getting into the playoffs because of the collapse of the competition (Boston and Toronto), the Yankees so-called offense totally collapsed. Cano, Swisher, Arod, Tex and Granderson all were worthless at the same time and that looks like a collapse to me. When Russell Martin is their biggest offensive threat, you know they've got problems.

[Grindelwald]

Yankees of course.

[CharmCityCrab]

I'd say the Orioles, at least prior to 2012. Even though the Yankees beat us in the playoffs this year, they flailed out in the next round, and were pretty pathetic when one takes into account their payroll and the sheer talent on their roster. So, in 2012, the Yankees, but that's the exception.

Fact is, not having a winning season in 15 years is pathetic no matter how many reasons or excuses one might have. A team should just never be that futile for that long. And making the playoffs every year or close to it, and winning several championships in that span of the time, is good no matter how many unfair competitive advantages you have.

Having said that, as always, the Yankees and the Orioles are great examples of why baseball needs a salary cap and a payroll floor. The Yankees should not be able to get away with raiding all the best talent from the other teams and having a payroll that dwarfs most teams, and the Orioles should not have been allowed to sit back and rake in MASN money and pocket it instead of investing in the team.

I know a salary cap would be a tough sell with the union, but what if you set it high enough and paired it with a high enough payroll floor that it brought in more net revenue for the players than the current system? Could something be worked out? I think it'd be in the best interests of the game. Keep the top owners from going crazy and buying an unfair competitive advantage, and keep the worst owners from being miserly and not trying to compete.

I'd also like to see teams get something like the "franchise tag" in pro football where they can take a maximum of one potential free agent a year, and select him as their franchise player, which would automatically give him a contract that is the average of the top 5 paid players at his position for one year, but prevent him from becoming a free agent. Of course, eventually a team would likely have to sign a guy to a long term deal or let him test free agency, because if you franchise the same guy every year, another player eventually comes along who you also have to tag, and you can't tag both the same year.

But what a franchise tag would do is ensure like, for example, Mike Mussina would have stayed in Baltimore. It'd give some vagabond teams like Tampa Bay their own Cal Ripken type to build around instead of losing all their good players ever so often. If a team has a top player, he doesn't automatically become a Yankee or a Red Sox guy when free agency hits that way. And a payroll floor being in the mix, if high enough, would be an incentive for teams to actually exercise franchise player options, because that money is going to go to someone regardless.

[weird-O]

to add a different type of perspective, I ask this question. would you trade the past 15 O's seasons for the Yankees past 15 seasons?

[CharmCityCrab]

to add a different type of perspective, I ask this question. would you trade the past 15 O's seasons for the Yankees past 15 seasons?

Yes, in a nanosecond. Although hopefully not their same cast of players- maybe it's just my hatred of the Yankees as a franchise clouding my judgement, but they seem to have a very dislikeable cast of characters.

[joe cool]

Who is a bigger joke the Yankees organization the past 10 years or the orioles? I would have to say the Yankees. Yes they are always contending for a title but they also choke every year with a 200 million dollar payroll. The yanks have 1 title but I believe they have underachieved more than any other franchise in sports!!!!! Can somebody name another. The Orioles are on their way up with almost a third of the payroll of the Yankees. What do u guys think??

This is not only one of the stupidest and dumbest questions ever asked on here but it is AMAZING how some people on here would actually have the balls to choose the Orioles of the last 10 or 15 years over the Yankees of the same period.

I know that you guys are all happy with your ONE little winning season this PAST year but you should really take a chill pill and calm down. Don’t let the emotions of having ONE good season in a decade and a half make you think that your team is actually now special.

There are many, experts and not, who think the O’s of this season were more of a FLUKE than a team ready to contend consistently for many year to come. I happen to think that IF, and a BIG IF, they actually go out and PAY to get the best available players out there this off season they MAY be able to stick around for a couple of years. But if they go out on the CHEAP, as usual, I believe they will fall back a lot closer to their normal place in the standings.

If that should occur I wonder how many of the BIG MOUTHS on here now will be around talking smack?? I know that no matter what MIRICLE happened with the O’s this season ANYBODY who doesn’t wear orange colored glasses while drinking a tall glass of orange kool aid would pick the Yankees of the last 10-15 years over the wO’es 100% of the time.

I’m really looking forward to this off season and next year, it will be pretty interesting around here if the O’s are unable to repeat their miracle again!! LOL

[Omaha Beach]

This is not only one of the stupidest and dumbest questions ever asked on here but it is AMAZING how some people on here would actually have the balls to choose the Orioles of the last 10 or 15 years over the Yankees of the same period.

I know that you guys are all happy with your ONE little winning season this PAST year but you should really take a chill pill and calm down. Don’t let the emotions of having ONE good season in a decade and a half make you think that your team is actually now special.

There are many, experts and not, who think the O’s of this season were more of a FLUKE than a team ready to contend consistently for many year to come. I happen to think that IF, and a BIG IF, they actually go out and PAY to get the best available players out there this off season they MAY be able to stick around for a couple of years. But if they go out on the CHEAP, as usual, I believe they will fall back a lot closer to their normal place in the standings.

If that should occur I wonder how many of the BIG MOUTHS on here now will be around talking smack?? I know that no matter what MIRICLE happened with the O’s this season ANYBODY who doesn’t wear orange colored glasses while drinking a tall glass of orange kool aid would pick the Yankees of the last 10-15 years over the wO’es 100% of the time.

I’m really looking forward to this off season and next year, it will be pretty interesting around here if the O’s are unable to repeat their miracle again!! LOL

The yonkees better pick up some good players this winter since about a third of the current team is ready to go on Medicare.

[NCBirdfan]

This is not only one of the stupidest and dumbest questions ever asked on here but it is AMAZING how some people on here would actually have the balls to choose the Orioles of the last 10 or 15 years over the Yankees of the same period.

I know that you guys are all happy with your ONE little winning season this PAST year but you should really take a chill pill and calm down. Don’t let the emotions of having ONE good season in a decade and a half make you think that your team is actually now special.

There are many, experts and not, who think the O’s of this season were more of a FLUKE than a team ready to contend consistently for many year to come. I happen to think that IF, and a BIG IF, they actually go out and PAY to get the best available players out there this off season they MAY be able to stick around for a couple of years. But if they go out on the CHEAP, as usual, I believe they will fall back a lot closer to their normal place in the standings.

If that should occur I wonder how many of the BIG MOUTHS on here now will be around talking smack?? I know that no matter what MIRICLE happened with the O’s this season ANYBODY who doesn’t wear orange colored glasses while drinking a tall glass of orange kool aid would pick the Yankees of the last 10-15 years over the wO’es 100% of the time.

I’m really looking forward to this off season and next year, it will be pretty interesting around here if the O’s are unable to repeat their miracle again!! LOL

I would pick the Orioles over the Yankees 100% of the time. Many Yankees fans tend to be people who have empty lives that need filled with superfluous gratitude. You know the type. Their lives may suck, but hey, the Yankees won. These fans would "give up" on the Yankees if they were to go into a tailspin (see 1965-1975 - again in 1982-1993, when the Yankees were mostly mediocre - there were far fewer Yankees fans then), these same fans would find another team to cling onto...it's kinda sad actually.

[weird-O]

IF, and a BIG IF, they actually go out and PAY to get the best available players out there this off season they MAY be able to stick around for a couple of years. But if they go out on the CHEAP, as usual, I believe they will fall back a lot closer to their normal place in the standings.

this just shows the narrow minded yankee approach to baseball. spend the most money always.

the O's went on the cheap last season, and made it to game 5 of the ALDS. you don't need to pay the most to have the most success, year in and year out we see this.

smart drafting and smart spending leads to greater success. want proof? the NYY in the late 90's

DD vastly exceeded everyone's expectations. if it was luck, then so be it. but history shows the sparter teams have greater success.

[boulderterp]

it's a tie. The Yankees built an empire, but nothing has become of it. Apathy in NY, 70% full crowds for playoff games? That's not like the Yankees used to be.

They got some massive contracts, and have FA on top of it. Farms systems isnt that great either, very old team.