3 reasons why Dunbar vs St Frances is the next great rivalry

[football62]

Interesting video: 100% Graduation Rate - Paul L. Dunbar High - Motivational Video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzVLNvbr0Nw

Interesting video but I don't see how that answers golf's question. Maybe I'm being petty but how can you be 100% college bound when you have these athletes heading to prep school? And I think the bigger questions to him seems to be why are they going to prep school and not enrolling on campus.

[meth007]

Kids make decisions for different reason. Its the coaches job to do 2 things; get the kids exposure and make sure the graduate. With that being said, the two kids that went prep did not have to. They wanted to go another route to get exposure to the schools of their choice. If one school wants you at RB, but you can go to a FBS school as a SS...prep is your best bet. If you can go to another D1 school, but the school of your choice requires more...prep school. Now, those two will probably be in a better situation. Again, Dunbar sends their kids to school...not always D1 or DAA but alot to the Bowies,Frostburg, Virginia State etc

[First_Down]

Interesting video but I don't see how that answers golf's question. Maybe I'm being petty but how can you be 100% college bound when you have these athletes heading to prep school? And I think the bigger questions to him seems to be why are they going to prep school and not enrolling on campus.

I would say you are not being petty but you and golf seem to have a negative aire about prep school to me. The only thing I can tell you about a "prep school" is the one a neighbor's son attended. I personally thought the kid was brllliant and he was accepted to the Naval Academy. However, before he did, I understand that he went to the Naval Academy Prep School. Why, I don't know but he did and he says it was the best thing / best approach for him. Now I am not calling every prep school a Naval Academy Prep School but it did something to help him through the rigors of the full academy. I imagine the typical college / university prep functions the same; to better prepare one for the main real deal. A year of prep has to be better than jumping into to something and failing within a year. I just don't carry a negative flavor regarding preps.

[Buckabee]

I dont see it happening. Dunbar is getting most of the players in baltimore after Gilman and Calvert Hall takes their first dibs. Here are the reason that SFA will not be a threat to Dunbar.

Dunbar keeps winning
They put over 90% of their players in college with 100% graduation rate
New Stadium- Last fridays home coming atmosphere was electric and the field isnt complete. When its done they will fit 3,000 in dealth valley. Kids all over the city will want to play their and theres plenty of talent in Bmore.
Under Armour- kids like shiny and the Poets Uniform and UA gear attracts.
They are increasing enrollment which means more boys. Dunbar program has 90 boys in a school with about 175 boys. What do you think will happen when Dunbar has 300 boys in the school?

This Dunbar thing is just starting.....next year 2A

I dont think kids will choose SFA over Dunbar but there making a strong push with football. #1 they are the 1st under armour school in baltimore, i know the deal was basketball but now they have under armour support with football. Also with the start of there new turf field with lights just around the corner, Dunbar field wont seem so like a big thing. If SFA is jumping to the A conference with a new stadium on Chase St O my!! then we might see kids look that way but i dont see kids going there over Dunbar to play in the c conference

[football62]

I would say you are not being petty but you and golf seem to have a negative aire about prep school to me. The only thing I can tell you about a "prep school" is the one a neighbor's son attended. I personally thought the kid was brllliant and he was accepted to the Naval Academy. However, before he did, I understand that he went to the Naval Academy Prep School. Why, I don't know but he did and he says it was the best thing / best approach for him. Now I am not calling every prep school a Naval Academy Prep School but it did something to help him through the rigors of the full academy. I imagine the typical college / university prep functions the same; to better prepare one for the main real deal. A year of prep has to be better than jumping into to something and failing within a year. I just don't carry a negative flavor regarding preps.

I personally have no problem with prep school. When there is an advantage to going. As you said some kids go that route because it enhances their chance as it did for the young man you mentioned. He took that route and it paid off for him. But when you're a blue chipper and you sign with a major power but then go to prep, that puzzles me. Now I don't know he reasons why he chose this route. Thats only for him and his family to know but it just puzzles me thats all.

[Outside Looking In]

I personally have no problem with prep school. When there is an advantage to going. As you said some kids go that route because it enhances their chance as it did for the young man you mentioned. He took that route and it paid off for him. But when you're a blue chipper and you sign with a major power but then go to prep, that puzzles me. Now I don't know he reasons why he chose this route. Thats only for him and his family to know but it just puzzles me thats all.

Puzzles me as well

[meth007]

It should puzzle you because you are not the kid or his parents. Again, if the school that you wanted to attend had a requirement that you didn't qualify for, but lets say there were others that would...would you go to prep school to qualify or would you simply go to the school where you qualified. Again, Dunbar's job is to assist the athlete on exposure and a vehicle to get to college. The student and their parents do the rest...

[First_Down]

I personally have no problem with prep school. When there is an advantage to going. As you said some kids go that route because it enhances their chance as it did for the young man you mentioned. He took that route and it paid off for him. But when you're a blue chipper and you sign with a major power but then go to prep, that puzzles me. Now I don't know he reasons why he chose this route. Thats only for him and his family to know but it just puzzles me thats all.

Why should it puzzle you FB or anyone else with any means to reason and/or has been around the block at least once as some of you obviously have! Come on guys; pull your heads out of it. It's as plain as your nose that the blue chipper was assessed not to be adequately prepared or qualified for where he wanted to go for whatever reason(s). He's not the first and he will not be the last. All types of kids, non-athletes go to prep schools. If you don't need it then you don't go. If you do need it and you want what preps are founded for, then you go AND TAKE FULL ADVANTAGE OF THAT OPPORTUNITY. Maryland has several players who have prep'd at places like Fork Union and Hargraves and other prep schools. I know of many other players who prep. Some it worked out for, others it did not. Kind of like life. Year after year you hear about all the kids who commit to go some where and quite a few don't end up there for the same reason and other reasons this blue chipper didn't go where he was slated. But properly motivated with good support, he can overcome. Ego trip and one will fail that goal.

[pmore108]

It should puzzle you because you are not the kid or his parents. Again, if the school that you wanted to attend had a requirement that you didn't qualify for, but lets say there were others that would...would you go to prep school to qualify or would you simply go to the school where you qualified. Again, Dunbar's job is to assist the athlete on exposure and a vehicle to get to college. The student and their parents do the rest...

I have no problem with kids going to prep school, the benefits of going that route are numerous. With that said, I have a problem with the statement, "Dunbar's job is to assist the athlete on exposure and vehicle to get to college." That should be ONE of the football coaches jobs (but not the most important). Dunbar as a school should be focused on graduating kids, preparing them for life outside of high school (this includes life outside of athletics) and getting kids into college. It has been studied many times but the % of kids getting money to play a sport is small. You are better served as an institution to push kids to elite levels academically, more money and opportunities to be found down those roads than with football scholarships.

[First_Down]

I have no problem with kids going to prep school, the benefits of going that route are numerous. With that said, I have a problem with the statement, "Dunbar's job is to assist the athlete on exposure and vehicle to get to college." That should be ONE of the football coaches jobs (but not the most important). Dunbar as a school should be focused on graduating kids, preparing them for life outside of high school (this includes life outside of athletics) and getting kids into college. It has been studied many times but the % of kids getting money to play a sport is small. You are better served as an institution to push kids to elite levels academically, more money and opportunities to be found down those roads than with football scholarships.

What you say is a given pmore. Understood without saying. I really don't think meth meant what you interpret he said was that the coaches exclusive or most important job was exposure and all that other stuff.

[pmore108]

What you say is a given pmore. Understood without saying. I really don't think meth meant what you interpret he said was that the coaches exclusive or most important job was exposure and all that other stuff.

Yea, probably taken out of context on my part given a second reading. I just wish more people overall would focus on teh academic side of things. Everyone seems to focus on the 'golden egg' of an athletic scholarship when in reality the way into college for many is simply great grades.

[ECF]

All you guys are silly, it was the fresh/soph team coaches were asking about having 6 soph on the team. But only 2 was starting, remember this was suppose to be a JV team but MIAA requested to make them a fresh/soph this year and a JV team next yr. there's your answer .

No this was the varsity game vs Severn. And has been confirmed thru conversation w/ a AD.

[First_Down]

Yea, probably taken out of context on my part given a second reading. I just wish more people overall would focus on teh academic side of things. Everyone seems to focus on the 'golden egg' of an athletic scholarship when in reality the way into college for many is simply great grades.

What you say sounds like life to me. You would like to see everyone get a good education and take care of themselves and their family but willingly and unwittingly people take other courses in life. Without crooks, there would be no or very little need for cops. Without sickness and injury, there would be no need or very little need for doctors. Without death, we wouldn't appreciate life. So people take different paths in life or a course you would not take. That's reality also. If a kid needs to take the prep route, then I say the glass is half full rather than empty or question what the hell is going on because he could be facing far worse options in life the least of which is not going to secondary education at all. For every kid like the person in question who has to go prep, thousands upon thousand will not have that choice.

[TheGuru]

What some message board new jacks might not know is that over the years Meth has trumpeted the large number of Dunbar kids with major college offers. However, recently these offers haven't materialized into kids on campus. Great football skills mean nothing if the books ain't right. Tavon, Perry, Ayers and Onuekwesi handled their business but others haven't. For the ones that haven't, prep school is a viable avenue to pursue their goals.

[football62]

It should puzzle you because you are not the kid or his parents. Again, if the school that you wanted to attend had a requirement that you didn't qualify for, but lets say there were others that would...would you go to prep school to qualify or would you simply go to the school where you qualified. Again, Dunbar's job is to assist the athlete on exposure and a vehicle to get to college. The student and their parents do the rest...

Meth..I agree with you.Trust me on this one because I'm totally neutral with no allegiences to any school in the immediate area. You're right . It is the parents choice of what needs to be done with their child but, I will say this . For as heavily as this young man was being recruited, you can tell me that he and his people did not know until his senior year when he was ready to sign, what his college of choices academic requirements were. As i recall he verbally committed at the end of his junior year. it should have been known or realized then what was going to be expected. That being said and if it were me making the decision for my child, i would have chosen to send him to prep for his senior year. What advantage really would have been gained by waiting until he graduated to then go to prep. Again, that's just kind of the way i see it. I don't know this young man's parents personally so it would not be fair of me to judge them. I can only speak from my perspective as a parent myself. Ultimately all I want is what every other parent wants for their child. To be successful.

[football62]

What some message board new jacks might not know is that over the years Meth has trumpeted the large number of Dunbar kids with major college offers. However, recently these offers haven't materialized into kids on campus. Great football skills mean nothing if the books ain't right. Tavon, Perry, Ayers and Onuekwesi handled their business but others haven't. For the ones that haven't, prep school is a viable avenue to pursue their goals.

Man, this is good stuff. I wish I had joined this board a few years ago when I first started reading the posts on it. You guys are passionate about area sports and it shows in some of the discussion. even though iI came on late in the season, I've enjoyed my time so far.

[RM7]

Kids mostly go the prep school route because they didn't get the qualifying score on their last chance in May on the SAT or ACT or they don't have the gpa. Zach Brown had to go this route before UNC and a 2nd round pick to the Titans this past. Prep school is mostly for kids looking to improve their gpa, sat, or act to get in the door.

[eaglesinsider]

Kids make decisions for different reason. Its the coaches job to do 2 things; get the kids exposure and make sure the graduate. With that being said, the two kids that went prep did not have to. They wanted to go another route to get exposure to the schools of their choice. If one school wants you at RB, but you can go to a FBS school as a SS...prep is your best bet. If you can go to another D1 school, but the school of your choice requires more...prep school. Now, those two will probably be in a better situation. Again, Dunbar sends their kids to school...not always D1 or DAA but alot to the Bowies,Frostburg, Virginia State etc

What about Deontay McManus? He's down playing at the Atlanta Sports Academy because he couldn't academically qualify to get into WVU. Lavar Highsmith is down there as well, I thought the had a full ride to Morgan.

http://www.atlantasportsacademy.com/Football.html

Darin Washington is down there too. As is Tyrin Tyson from City.

[BJC]

What some message board new jacks might not know is that over the years Meth has trumpeted the large number of Dunbar kids with major college offers. However, recently these offers haven't materialized into kids on campus. Great football skills mean nothing if the books ain't right. Tavon, Perry, Ayers and Onuekwesi handled their business but others haven't. For the ones that haven't, prep school is a viable avenue to pursue their goals.

bro, your hate for Dunbar is incredible lol

[First_Down]

What about Deontay McManus? He's down playing at the Atlanta Sports Academy because he couldn't academically qualify to get into WVU. Lavar Highsmith is down there as well, I thought the had a full ride to Morgan.

http://www.atlantasportsacademy.com/Football.html

Darin Washington is down there too. As is Tyrin Tyson from City.

And so is Sam Lebbie from DeMatha, and Quincy Dickens from Freindship Collegiate, and Deion Sanders Jr. I recall the big fullback Steven Manders of Spaldings from last year went prep somewhere and KK Smith may have also if he didn't go the Stevenson U route. Lots and lots of kids prep. We just don't hear much about this because we are so focus on the current and up coming crop.