o's do the inevitable: decline reynolds option

[AntiMoon]

What would you offer him? I say 2 yrs 16 mil and if he passes you move on to LaRoche and Youkilis

[can you hear me now!]

a plane ticket out of town....

I'd rather have LaRoche....Youkilis too.....

[AntiMoon]

o's select Z Clark's contract giving them 36 men on their 40 man roster. also 6 guys on Dl.

[weird-O]

What would you offer him? I say 2 yrs 16 mil and if he passes you move on to LaRoche and Youkilis

2 yrs 16M is a good offer, but I'd explore the other two players first. I really think Boston will go after MR

[reg_indy]

What would you offer him? I say 2 yrs 16 mil and if he passes you move on to LaRoche and Youkilis

Rather have Reynolds, for the sake of team chemistry..

[atomic]

What would you offer him? I say 2 yrs 16 mil and if he passes you move on to LaRoche and Youkilis

No way DD is going to be stupid enough to give him 2 years at 8 a year. They were trying to give him away for nothing this season and had not takers at 7 million for the season. They thought about just releasing him. Do you think they want to be stuck paying him 16 million a year and then trying to unload him again? No way. Reynolds is the worst. He is as good as gone.

[RIKMAN]

I like Reynolds but there is no way he comes back here. The money is not here for him. I think he signs an incentive laden contract somewhere this winter. He cut down his strikeouts but with his power way off, I couldn't justify 2 years at 8M.

If I could get Youklis, I'd have to take that chance. FA class looks awful thin.

[weird-O]

FWIW, $8M is the number being thrown out by multiple analysts. this seems to be the consensus on MR's worth.

he isn't going to take a cut in pay, because he isn't a declining player. in fact, the O's showed the game that he has value. and he usually hits 30+ HRs.

and like it or not, striking out 180 times a year isn't looked down upon like it used to be. the sport is trending in a direction where teams will accept a 200 K player if he cranks 30+ HRs. Personally, I don't like it, but that's where the game is going

Bowden said he'd be surprised to see MR leave the O's because he really likes it here.

and consider this. after the move to 1B, his offense improved from early-mid-season.

[Baltimore Ravens Lets Go!]

I hope they work something out to keep him. I cannot even stomach thinking about having that little Yankee punk Swisher in an Orioles uniform. The thought is nauseating.

[weenie]

FWIW, $8M is the number being thrown out by multiple analysts. this seems to be the consensus on MR's worth.

he isn't going to take a cut in pay, because he isn't a declining player. in fact, the O's showed the game that he has value. and he usually hits 30+ HRs.

and like it or not, striking out 180 times a year isn't looked down upon like it used to be. the sport is trending in a direction where teams will accept a 200 K player if he cranks 30+ HRs. Personally, I don't like it, but that's where the game is going

Bowden said he'd be surprised to see MR leave the O's because he really likes it here.

and consider this. after the move to 1B, his offense improved from early-mid-season.

Reynolds always improves late in the season. In past years, the August homers just padded his personal stats but '12 was the first meaningful season for Mark. The problem with Reynolds is he's an older, less versatile version of Chris Davis. Unfortunately for Mark, Davis and Jones are more valued right now and you can't afford three free swingers. I'd expect a high OBP guy to be added in his place unless Mark's price drops to $5M a year on a two or three year deal.

[weird-O]

Reynolds always improves late in the season. In past years, the August homers just padded his personal stats but '12 was the first meaningful season for Mark. The problem with Reynolds is he's an older, less versatile version of Chris Davis. Unfortunately for Mark, Davis and Jones are more valued right now and you can't afford three free swingers. I'd expect a high OBP guy to be added in his place unless Mark's price drops to $5M a year on a two or three year deal.

sound logic, but I don't see him taking a $2M/yr cut in pay.

[bmore_ken]

sound logic, but I don't see him taking a $2M/yr cut in pay.

Neither do I. Some team is going to gamble on his career season home run averages. A pretty safe gamble if it was my money

[atomic]

Neither do I. Some team is going to gamble on his career season home run averages. A pretty safe gamble if it was my money

Even with his career home runs averages he is still a pretty awful hitting first baseman. I don't know why Oriole fans so overvalue the guy. I guess they just see home run totals and ignore everything else. You would think having Eddie and Palmermo here they would know how good first baseman hit.

[Gizmo]

5M tops (and I mean tops). If some team wants to pay him more than that, wish him farewell and don't think twice about it.

[weird-O]

Even with his career home runs averages he is still a pretty awful hitting first baseman. I don't know why Oriole fans so overvalue the guy. I guess they just see home run totals and ignore everything else. You would think having Eddie and Palmermo here they would know how good first baseman hit.

good points. personally, I haven't forgotten how horrible he was before the switch to 1B. and in 2011, almost all of his HRs came in games where it didn't make a difference because the game was a blowout for either team. too many Ks and no sign that he will ever change his approach which would make him a better hitter all around.

but he will get his money this winter, there's is no doubt about that. given the way he hit in NY, look for the yankees to consider him for 3b.

[hector]

good points. personally, I haven't forgotten how horrible he was before the switch to 1B. and in 2011, almost all of his HRs came in games where it didn't make a difference because the game was a blowout for either team. too many Ks and no sign that he will ever change his approach which would make him a better hitter all around.

but he will get his money this winter, there's is no doubt about that. given the way he hit in NY, look for the yankees to consider him for 3b.

I will be truly amazed if the Yankees try to sign Reynolds to play third base. I can see Boston possibly trying to get him for first base.

It looks like the best deal possible for Reynolds is through arbitration.

[bmore_ken]

Even with his career home runs averages he is still a pretty awful hitting first baseman. I don't know why Oriole fans so overvalue the guy. I guess they just see home run totals and ignore everything else. You would think having Eddie and Palmermo here they would know how good first baseman hit.

Some teams will pay for his power numbers. Nobody is calling him the second coming of Eddie Murray and I doubt any team signing him would be expecting that. What they'll be expecting is a guy who averages 30 bombs a year, they wouldn't be signing him to hit .300.

[weird-O]

I will be truly amazed if the Yankees try to sign Reynolds to play third base. I can see Boston possibly trying to get him for first base.

It looks like the best deal possible for Reynolds is through arbitration.

I heard, on MLB radio, the Yankees have already said they try to move Pay-Rod. and even if they can't, they aren't projecting him at 3B next season. one variable I don't know about is whether NY has someone they can bring up from their system to play 3B. if they don't, they need to get someone on the FA market.

MR isn't a typical yankee because he's a free swinger, but they may have the attitude that they can improve upon his approach at the plate. he has the reputation for having a good eye and being able to take walks.

[Oriole-Bob]

I hope they work something out to keep him. I cannot even stomach thinking about having that little Yankee punk Swisher in an Orioles uniform. The thought is nauseating.

Reynolds 2012 WAR -0.10

Swisher 2012 WAR +3.50

i'm glad you aren't the GM

[hector]

I heard, on MLB radio, the Yankees have already said they try to move Pay-Rod. and even if they can't, they aren't projecting him at 3B next season. one variable I don't know about is whether NY has someone they can bring up from their system to play 3B. if they don't, they need to get someone on the FA market.

MR isn't a typical yankee because he's a free swinger, but they may have the attitude that they can improve upon his approach at the plate. he has the reputation for having a good eye and being able to take walks.

Listening to Mike Francesa on YES, it's my understanding that Arod has a no-trade clause and would have to agree to a trade. Francesa speculated that Miami might be the only possibility since that's Arod's home and the Miami owner is supposedly "close" with the Yankees.

Nunez is considered very good offensively but too weak defensively to play the infield. If that's the standard, it's hard to imagine the Yankees going after Reynolds.

In my opinion, the odds are that Reynolds stays with the Orioles from lack of interest by other teams unless Boston is desparate for a power hitting first baseman with a low batting average and high strikeouts.