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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGuru View Post
    IMO, the 3A West (both sections) is the toughest region in the state playoff system. What I like us that Dunbar finally gets to step up in playoff competition. Middletown, Eastern Tech, Hereford, McDonough, Roosevelt & Friendly will give the Poets more of a challenge. Old nemeses like Catoctin & Gwynn Park will be gunning for Dunbar also. The state titles might slow down to a trickle now that the Poets aren't the big fish in a little pond.

    Oh, I forgot Queen Anne's & Kent Island. What a murderer's row for the almighty Poets!
    Just noticed City, Poly, and Digital Harbor moved in with my HoCo boys. I forsee the 3a east region being very interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGuru View Post
    IMO, the 3A West (both sections) is the toughest region in the state playoff system. What I like us that Dunbar finally gets to step up in playoff competition. Middletown, Eastern Tech, Hereford, McDonough, Roosevelt & Friendly will give the Poets more of a challenge. Old nemeses like Catoctin & Gwynn Park will be gunning for Dunbar also. The state titles might slow down to a trickle now that the Poets aren't the big fish in a little pond.
    I love when people make this argument about Dunbar. People seem to forget that their first ever football state titles were won in 2A and 3A.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJGreg1200 View Post
    I love when people make this argument about Dunbar. People seem to forget that their first ever football state titles were won in 2A and 3A.
    The state of Maryland football was a completely different animal during those times. It is currently a much bigger beast now

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2K10Terp View Post
    The state of Maryland football was a completely different animal during those times. It is currently a much bigger beast now
    Agreed. Totally, totally different beast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by agentorange View Post
    If there was ever a program that needs to be 1a its Bcc....they have under 280 boys in the entire school...and most of them are the erkle type while averaging 120 pounds
    Classification is total population of the school unless it is single sex like Western.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jtowne-swim View Post
    Classification is total population of the school unless it is single sex like Western.
    Not total enrollment, but only the 9th, 10th,and 11th grades.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeebus View Post
    Not total enrollment, but only the 9th, 10th,and 11th grades.
    yes but my point is it is not specific to gender!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJGreg1200 View Post
    I love when people make this argument about Dunbar. People seem to forget that their first ever football state titles were won in 2A and 3A.
    Agreed. The hatred for Dunbar is off the charts. They will do well in any classification, because they have the ability to adapt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2K10Terp View Post
    The state of Maryland football was a completely different animal during those times. It is currently a much bigger beast now
    So your saying that a team that has already won a 2A championship can't win one again? It's still 11 on 11 on the field. I'm not understanding your logic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJGreg1200 View Post
    So your saying that a team that has already won a 2A championship can't win one again? It's still 11 on 11 on the field. I'm not understanding your logic.
    He's saying that 2A as a whole is a lot better than it was the last time Dunbar was in it.

    I'm not saying Dunbar won't win in 2A, but there are 14 more schools in that classification, and many more good schools than 1A. Perryville is Dunbar's only real challenger in 1A this year. In 2A, Middletown, Walkersville, McDonough, Douglass (PG), Queen Anne's, and Kent Island would all be favored over a down Dunbar team this year. I've seen both Middletown and Walkersville and they are both the real deal. It is a shame that because of the stupid regional seeding, 1 of them will go no further than the regional finals. It's 1 thing to dominate 1A with 35 schools, of which only 1 on any given year is good enough to hang with Dunbar. It's another thing entirely to dominate 2A, where there are 4-8 teams on any given year that can hang with or are more talented than Dunbar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eaglesinsider View Post
    He's saying that 2A as a whole is a lot better than it was the last time Dunbar was in it.

    I'm not saying Dunbar won't win in 2A, but there are 14 more schools in that classification, and many more good schools than 1A. Perryville is Dunbar's only real challenger in 1A this year. In 2A, Middletown, Walkersville, McDonough, Douglass (PG), Queen Anne's, and Kent Island would all be favored over a down Dunbar team this year. I've seen both Middletown and Walkersville and they are both the real deal. It is a shame that because of the stupid regional seeding, 1 of them will go no further than the regional finals. It's 1 thing to dominate 1A with 35 schools, of which only 1 on any given year is good enough to hang with Dunbar. It's another thing entirely to dominate 2A, where there are 4-8 teams on any given year that can hang with or are more talented than Dunbar.
    I agree that they won't dominate 2A but I feel that they will still win a state title before reclassification comes around again in 2015.

    If Dunbar wins both of them......then what will people say?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJGreg1200 View Post
    I agree that they won't dominate 2A but I feel that they will still win a state title before reclassification comes around again in 2015.

    If Dunbar wins both of them......then what will people say?
    I don't think anyone said that Dunbar wouldn't win any championships but that they won't dominate the 2a the way they dominated 1a. I think you're misreading what they're saying. It's obvious that there are a lot more quality teams in 2a than 1a and that the road to the championship is tougher. That's all everyone is saying.

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    Through the end of the regular season, here's how the classifications rank using the average MaxPreps rating of each team in each classification :

    1) 11.0 3A
    2) 8.8 4A
    3) 3.0 2A
    4) -9.1 1A


    Number of teams with a MaxPreps rating of 30 or higher

    1) 7 3A
    2) 5 4A
    3) 4 2A
    4) 1 1A


    Number of teams with a MaxPreps rating of 20 or higher

    1) 18 3A
    2) 14 4A
    3) 10 2A
    4) 3 1A


    Number of teams with a MaxPreps rating of 10 or higher

    1) 27 3A
    2) 23 4A
    3) 16 2A
    4) 9 1A

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    Quote Originally Posted by 85Knight View Post
    I don't think anyone said that Dunbar wouldn't win any championships but that they won't dominate the 2a the way they dominated 1a. I think you're misreading what they're saying. It's obvious that there are a lot more quality teams in 2a than 1a and that the road to the championship is tougher. That's all everyone is saying.
    I agree with this

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJGreg1200 View Post
    I love when people make this argument about Dunbar. People seem to forget that their first ever football state titles were won in 2A and 3A.
    Dunbar won those higher classification championships in a different football climate. In the mid to late 90s the movement to create academies and charter schools hadn't yet begun. City, Poly and Dunbar got the best kids in Baltimore City. It's different these days. Meth007 said it himself, Gilman & Calvert Hall get the cream of the crop as far as middle school talent goes. The remaining talent now has more choices in picking a high school to attend. Kids that would have chosen Dunbar in the last decade are now walking the halls at MIAA schools and at City, Edmondson, Douglass and Reginald Lewis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 85Knight View Post
    I don't think anyone said that Dunbar wouldn't win any championships but that they won't dominate the 2a the way they dominated 1a. I think you're misreading what they're saying. It's obvious that there are a lot more quality teams in 2a than 1a and that the road to the championship is tougher. That's all everyone is saying.
    I agree with this completely. You cannot also ignore the fact that Dunbar not winning state championships as often would have a impact on the talent coming in. Kids come to Dunbar currently to win state championships. If they do not win them City kids might decide to go elsewhere.

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    Dunbar will adjust to the level of their opponents. They always have. I've always believed they have played down to their competition. This is the best thing for their program.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 44Defense View Post
    Dunbar will adjust to the level of their opponents. They always have. I've always believed they have played down to their competition. This is the best thing for their program.
    With Dunbar's talent year in and year out I can agree with this as well. But I still do not think they will have their usual horse trot to M & T.

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