Why Did Pres. Obama Win Re-Election...Really ?

[musicmd]

I want to know what your electric bill will be in a year or so.

4 more years. Why are you going to pay it, if not stfu

[MithrilKnight]

Are section 8 responsible for utilities?

LOLOL... You make me laugh.

[georjec2]

The answer to the question is the following: entitlement seekers voting for more entitlements.

How bout this...Americans wanting a fair break and not thinking they could get one from Mitt Romney.

The idea that people like Bill O'Reilly proffer as the reason Romney lost is because 50% of the electorate "want stuff" and feel that Obama will give it to them a false fallacy. You can tell that because he offers not one shred of evidence to qualify his statement but wants us (as many people will) take him on his word. After all he's on T.V and smarter than most of the people out there in T.V. land.

The "stuff" people want is a level playing ground. To people like Bill, they want too much.

Say good-bye to an era GOP keep up or get left behind.

[georjec2]

Despite a rotten economy, a miserable foreign policy, and a terrible record of deporting mostly Hispanic immigrants and raiding medical marijuana dispensaries that are legal under state law, Barack Obama handily won a second term as president and Democrats even picked up seats in the US Senate.

Those folks don't give a shiite about principles. They were looking for a free lunch.

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All of them ??? What evidence do you have for that ? Fox News?

You guys (the outdated GOP) did this to yourselves with your relentless attack on women, minorities and by surrendering to the Tea party. the tea party is not a majority in America. You bet on the wrong horse and there will be not Supreme Court intervention in this election because it is not needed.

The pictures of Obama sincerely hugging that woman during Hurricane Sandy didn't hurt him either.

What other reasons won it for him ?

[dsummoner]

How bout this...Americans wanting a fair break and not thinking they could get one from Mitt Romney.

Doubtful. There is nothing fair about forcibly taking from someone else to pay for your (in the general sense) needs.

The idea that people like Bill O'Reilly proffer as the reason Romney lost is because 50% of the electorate "want stuff" and feel that Obama will give it to them a false fallacy. You can tell that because he offers not one shred of evidence to qualify his statement but wants us (as many people will) take him on his word. After all he's on T.V and smarter than most of the people out there in T.V. land.

I don't watch O'Reilly.

The "stuff" people want is a level playing ground. To people like Bill, they want too much.

Level playing ground? Really? The 'poor' don't have to be responsible for paying for their own housing, food, health care costs, transportation or crapulent breeding choices. Exactly what adult responsibility do these 'level playing ground' seekers actually have to meet? They don't want a level playing ground... they want 'free' services and goods paid for by the funds of others in order to subsidize their failed lifestyle choices.

Say good-bye to an era GOP keep up or get left behind.

The fun part to watch is that the more socialism there is, the faster the US will head towards fiscal insolvency (followed by the gravy train of OPM stopping cold). Mandatory spending + payment on the debt already exceeds revenues and will only increase in the amount that it exceeds revenues going into the future.

[MithrilKnight]

I agree with most of what you say. Romney failed to keep the discussion on the performance of the economy, and every time he seemed to do so, he made some kind of stupid mistake. I thought Obama was ripe to be beaten, much like Bush was in 2004. But much like Kerry in 2004, Romney allowed the discussion to constantly be turned away from what might matter to things like his Bain years and tax returns. He constantly was playing defense when he should have been attacking and forcing Obama to defend the economy. When Obama accepted the nomination in 2008, in his acceptance speech he promised to go line by line through the budget to identify waste and reduce the deficit. Not once was that brought up by the Romney campaign. It seemed like a commercial waiting to be made. How nobody bothered to use that piece in a commerical is beyond me.

I actually agree with you.

A moderate Mitt Romney (or other moderate Republican) that actually focused on the reality of Obama's 4-years could have definitely won.

Keep Obama on the defensive by focusing on promises he didn't/couldn't keep, the bank bailout no one liked instead of auto bailout that most people liked, and the slogan he should've stuck to like glue "We can do better".

Of course, many Republicans were right that Gov. Romney was one of the worst candidates to face Obama. He was full of contradiction, flip-flops and inherently poor position due to being born into wealth and not seeming to have an ability to relate to not being wealthy.

I think the Obama campaign also did a poor job and could've/should've BLOWN..HIM...AWAY... with a Reagan-like landslide victory.
1) Focus on his time as Governor where he created Romneycare. Make him explain the difference between his program and Obamacare - if there is one.

2) Put him on the hot seat by pointing out the various plants he closed - by visiting them over and over. I heard there's a few companies that Bain owns right now that are downsizing - make him pay for that by association. like: "If Romney believed in America, why didn't he invest IN America?"

3) Don't attack Romney for not releasing taxes, but turn it to the People. "You're an honest, a hard working American. You can account for all your income the past 10-years. Don't you want your President to be honest with you, to be able to do the same?" - and really slam him on his financial secrecy in this time of "income inequality".

#3 is probably the hardest to push, because no one wants their taxes made public, but I think Obama gave Romney every chance to win. Just like his performance in the first debate, Obama didn't really show up until the last few weeks, imo.

[ms maggie]

And who has been responsible for the high unemployment the last 46 months? Wait I know: the ebil Bush!

Partly, certainly. That is not the point, but thanks for playing.

[ms maggie]

Despite a rotten economy, a miserable foreign policy, and a terrible record of deporting mostly Hispanic immigrants and raiding medical marijuana dispensaries that are legal under state law, Barack Obama handily won a second term as president and Democrats even picked up seats in the US Senate.

Those folks don't give a shiite about principles. They were looking for a free lunch.

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Again, what specifically has Obama done to make getting a "free lunch" easier?


Specifically.

[ms maggie]

All of them ??? What evidence do you have for that ? Fox News?

You guys (the outdated GOP) did this to yourselves with your relentless attack on women, minorities and by surrendering to the Tea party. the tea party is not a majority in America. You bet on the wrong horse and there will be not Supreme Court intervention in this election because it is not needed.

The pictures of Obama sincerely hugging that woman during Hurricane Sandy didn't hurt him either.

What other reasons won it for him ?

Obama is more likable. Seems trivial but it matters.

Repubs peculiar penchant for making absurd comments re rape. (Nine R Congressmen who stepped into it on this issue lost elections on Tuesday, if you count Ryan)

Ryan--he was treated like the red haired stepchild by the Romney campaign--guessing they had internal data showing Ryan was a negative so they kept him out of limelight.

Bush--people really hate this guy. Clinton--people really love this guy.

Vastly smarter campaign on O side.

Turnout--younger voters, Hispanics especially.

Backlash against voter suppression--e.g. Florida long lines.

Peculiar insular thinking of the right--Nate Silver and pollsters are all wrong, inability to grasp changing demographics, insistence that US has the best health care system (hence no need for overhaul), Obama is taking away yr guns, unemployment numbers rigged, etc. Just a rejection of anything they don't want to hear. The comical predictions of a R landslide--really? How is that possible outside a complete rejection og reality?

[ivanbalt]

Obama is more likable. Seems trivial but it matters.

Repubs peculiar penchant for making absurd comments re rape. (Nine R Congressmen who stepped into it on this issue lost elections on Tuesday, if you count Ryan)

Ryan--he was treated like the red haired stepchild by the Romney campaign--guessing they had internal data showing Ryan was a negative so they kept him out of limelight.

Bush--people really hate this guy. Clinton--people really love this guy.

Vastly smarter campaign on O side.

Turnout--younger voters, Hispanics especially.

Backlash against voter suppression--e.g. Florida long lines.

Peculiar insular thinking of the right--Nate Silver and pollsters are all wrong, inability to grasp changing demographics, insistence that US has the best health care system (hence no need for overhaul), Obama is taking away yr guns, unemployment numbers rigged, etc. Just a rejection of anything they don't want to hear. The comical predictions of a R landslide--really? How is that possible outside a complete rejection og reality?

One could point to all of those things, but it's much more simpler. Romney didn't offer any decent solutions. The country is no longer interested in trickle down economics and cold war foreign policy.

[reg_indy]

Conservative Media types misinformed their audience:

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/...lJ-XZI.twitter

[Terry K]

At this very moment many books are being written to attempt to answer that very question. Some of the reasons I'm sure will include...

Obama's winning:
96% of the black vote
71% of the Hispanic vote
73% of the Asian vote
55% of the womens vote (compared to 44% for Romney)

A masterful, precision campaign.
MSNBC
Bill Clinton

And one more thing comes to mind. I'd like to thank the Tea Party for helping the undecided to decide that with the GOP led by Mitt Romney we'd be heading in the wrong direction.


What/who have I left out ?

Upon reflection, it appears that the majority of voters cast their ballots based upon emotion and the perception that Obama cares for them rather than logic and an examination as to what he has actually accomplished for them in the past four years.....letting their hearts lead them. Said individuals were able to overcome past historical performance and somehow trust that previous promises would finally be kept upon reelection.

A masterful, precision campaign? Not by any stretch of the imagination. Even Obama looked doubtful with less than inspiring debate performances and modest turnout at events.

Speaking of debates, Obama was loose with the facts as a result of ignorance or perhaps with intent to deceive. Specifically, the issues of Sequestration, Romney's position on GM, and the Benghazi attack comes to mind. The Main stream media was obviously in the bag for Obama, withholding Steve Kroft's interview in which Obama acknowledged it was too early to cast the Benghazi incident as a terrorist attack.

Obama, Axelrod and Plouffe obviously do not believe “It's not how you win or lose, but how you play the game,” as this was the most vile Presidential campaign I ever witnessed and will likely be recorded in the annals of political history as such. Character assassination, religious bigotry, false claims that the candidate caused someone's death, Harry Reid's unfounded allegations on failure to pay taxes and the Moveon.org video went beyond the pale. Furthermore, a sitting President referring to his opponent as a "Bullshi**er" was a completely inappropriate and crass comment which reflected poorly on the Office of the President.

Of course, there was the gaffe machine Joe Biden who got it right when he stated "the middle class has been buried for the past four years" and "There's never been a day in the past four years I've been proud to be his Vice President" and got it wrong when he asked a grieving father "Did your son always have balls the size of cue balls".

In the final outcome, does the end justify the means? Are any of you truly proud of the way the Obama team achieved victory?

In a sense, those that supported Mr. Obama are like children eagerly anticipating the gifts they requested from Santa the previous years, when there wasn't enough room in the sled. This time they anticipate Santa, a metaphor for Obama, will deliver the presents he promised in previous years. In the spirit of Christmas, I hope everyone gets the gifts they were promised and are not disappointed. I remember,upon approaching maturity, the sense of sadness and disappointment experienced upon learning that there was no Santa Claus and comprehending that the only gifts one could expect were those the family budget could afford.

[reg_indy]

Obama ran a nasty campaign.

Oh, Please......

[Rael]

When your guy loses, the majority voters are stupid. Got it

I am more equal opportunity than that. I'd say at least half the population are of average and below average intelligence.

[ms maggie]

Terry K is the 3rd poster calling
Obama "Santa Claus". This is what Rush Lumbaugh called him on his program yesterday.

What a coincidence.

[CajunRaven]

I agree with most of what you say. Romney failed to keep the discussion on the performance of the economy, and every time he seemed to do so, he made some kind of stupid mistake. I thought Obama was ripe to be beaten, much like Bush was in 2004. But much like Kerry in 2004, Romney allowed the discussion to constantly be turned away from what might matter to things like his Bain years and tax returns. He constantly was playing defense when he should have been attacking and forcing Obama to defend the economy. When Obama accepted the nomination in 2008, in his acceptance speech he promised to go line by line through the budget to identify waste and reduce the deficit. Not once was that brought up by the Romney campaign. It seemed like a commercial waiting to be made. How nobody bothered to use that piece in a commerical is beyond me.

This. The commercials were there for the making. I'd add his statement regarding the Bush and the deficit when he was a senator. Irresponsible and unpatriotic. Simply run the video and then mention how much the deficit has increased.

Romney = Kerry. Obama could have been had with the right candidate and the right people running the campaign.

It's time for the republicans to throw the old guard out and bring in the young talent. Their time has passed them by.

[Rael]

1) Focus on his time as Governor where he created Romneycare. Make him explain the difference between his program and Obamacare - if there is one.

I realize this is changing the subject but I have heard this a lot regarding ObamaCare but what nobody has ever said (that I have heard) is that even if they were identical plans there is a huge difference between it being implemented on the state vs federal level.

[Terry K]

Terry K is the 3rd poster calling
Obama "Santa Claus". This is what Rush Lumbaugh called him on his program yesterday.

What a coincidence.

Yes, Rush frequently reads my posts but I don't mind him using some of my material.

[can you hear me now!]

One could point to all of those things, but it's much more simpler. Romney didn't offer any decent solutions. The country is no longer interested in trickle down economics and cold war foreign policy.

you nailed it.....it came down to moving away from the 20th century and in to the 21st...

[ms maggie]

Yes, Rush frequently reads my posts but I don't mind him using some of my material.

Dittohead. How odd people don't see that as an insult. LOL.

Limbaugh used this Santa reference Wednesday so it's pretty clear who is parroting who. But hey, has to be a big time saver!