Those Dam Governors From Fl & Ohio

[afan]

It is time to tell it like it is. If the Gov's of these two states would of acted like Americans and out Country first, I believe the voter may have been different. There is no better way to get people motivated and determined than to tell them they can't do something.

As I write this I want everyone to think of the last time someone tried controlling you. You had to get your ire up and had to be determined. No matter what the experts think and say. This made the people come out and we saw three groups, women, African American and Latino come out in droves to say their displeasure.

Now the last part of my argument. Until the Republicans can relate and change their opinions on many moral causes, they will loose. The right needs to take a hard look at the far right and get them to change. hate and anger have made people reject the way they do things. This election was about social issues and the day of making one do what some feel is over.If the right doesn't change, the Party will be done for. In my opinion this will be a shame as we all think our Country is the greatest and the loss of a great Party will be devastating.

[afan]

It is time to tell it like it is. If the Gov's of these two states would of acted like Americans and out Country first, I believe the voter may have been different. There is no better way to get people motivated and determined than to tell them they can't do something.

As I write this I want everyone to think of the last time someone tried controlling you. You had to get your ire up and had to be determined. No matter what the experts think and say. This made the people come out and we saw three groups, women, African American and Latino come out in droves to say their displeasure.

Now the last part of my argument. Until the Republicans can relate and change their opinions on many moral causes, they will loose. The right needs to take a hard look at the far right and get them to change. hate and anger have made people reject the way they do things. This election was about social issues and the day of making one do what some feel is over.If the right doesn't change, the Party will be done for. In my opinion this will be a shame as we all think our Country is the greatest and the loss of a great Party will be devastating.

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[cprenegade]

So you are basically saying that the party should simply abandon it's values in favor of those that might make it easier to win. I can't see how that will work. Not sure that is totally true anyway. Despite most people believing the congress is a do-nothing congress, they returned most of the house that was elected in 2010. If they honestly believed that republicans were the main problem, you would have thought most of them would have been gone this time around. The true test will come in 2016. History shows that over the last 60 years, 8 years of a president from one party is about all America can stand. With no incumbent running, we will see how that turns out. I heard a lot of the same things said about democrats in the 80's. Republicans had them all but destroyed as a party. Since the WWII era ended, only once has one party won three straight presidential elections. If it happens in 2016, then maybe republicans will have to look at their party and figure that their moral values no longer apply to America. Let's wait and see if that happens.

[dsummoner]

Country first

What does that even mean?

As I write this I want everyone to think of the last time someone tried controlling you.

As in through a taxation policy that imposes progressive punitive punishment for increasing fiscal success?

[SalisburySage]

If country came first Obama would not have been re-elected. Greed came first and a free lunch by the Obamaphone crowd. When Obama doesn't deliver I don't knwo what will happen. I guess they'll still blame Bush.

[atomic]

So you are basically saying that the party should simply abandon it's values in favor of those that might make it easier to win. I can't see how that will work. Not sure that is totally true anyway. Despite most people believing the congress is a do-nothing congress, they returned most of the house that was elected in 2010. If they honestly believed that republicans were the main problem, you would have thought most of them would have been gone this time around. The true test will come in 2016. History shows that over the last 60 years, 8 years of a president from one party is about all America can stand. With no incumbent running, we will see how that turns out. I heard a lot of the same things said about democrats in the 80's. Republicans had them all but destroyed as a party. Since the WWII era ended, only once has one party won three straight presidential elections. If it happens in 2016, then maybe republicans will have to look at their party and figure that their moral values no longer apply to America. Let's wait and see if that happens.

Democrats have become much more conservative since the 80's. And the population has become more liberal and will become more and more liberal as the older generation dies off and a new generation becomes votes.

The republican party wasn't always super conservative. Remember in the 60''s all the poor whites from the south were democrats. It was when Kennedy and LBJ started supporting civil rights that the religious nut jobs became republicans. So the republican party changed.

[dsummoner]

Democrats have become much more conservative since the 80's. And the population has become more liberal and will become more and more liberal as the older generation dies off and a new generation becomes votes.

The republican party wasn't always super conservative. Remember in the 60''s all the poor whites from the south were democrats. It was when Kennedy and LBJ started supporting civil rights that the religious nut jobs became republicans. So the republican party changed.

The younger generation will undergo the transition to fiscal conservatism when it becomes their money that is at stake (at least those that don't fester in indolence or become ultra-wealthy).

[Baltimatt]

What the hell is this thread about? Dam [sic] governors? What does your link have to do with them? You can't even mention the names of these governors. This is surreal.

[musicmd]

If country came first Obama would not have been re-elected. Greed came first and a free lunch by the Obamaphone crowd. When Obama doesn't deliver I don't knwo what will happen. I guess they'll still blame Bush.

IF IF IF LOL LOL 4 more years LOL LOL.

[musicmd]

The younger generation will undergo the transition to fiscal conservatism when it becomes their money that is at stake (at least those that don't fester in indolence or become ultra-wealthy).

Ok, but start a thread about it.

[sage]

It is time to tell it like it is. If the Gov's of these two states would of acted like Americans and out Country first, I believe the voter may have been different. There is no better way to get people motivated and determined than to tell them they can't do something.

As I write this I want everyone to think of the last time someone tried controlling you. You had to get your ire up and had to be determined. No matter what the experts think and say. This made the people come out and we saw three groups, women, African American and Latino come out in droves to say their displeasure.

Now the last part of my argument. Until the Republicans can relate and change their opinions on many moral causes, they will loose. The right needs to take a hard look at the far right and get them to change. hate and anger have made people reject the way they do things. This election was about social issues and the day of making one do what some feel is over.If the right doesn't change, the Party will be done for. In my opinion this will be a shame as we all think our Country is the greatest and the loss of a great Party will be devastating.

Republican party

Born 1854

Died 2000

[banner1124]

If country came first Obama would not have been re-elected. Greed came first and a free lunch by the Obamaphone crowd. When Obama doesn't deliver I don't knwo what will happen. I guess they'll still blame Bush.

Pay up loser

[Sprightly]

What the hell is this thread about? Dam [sic] governors? What does your link have to do with them? You can't even mention the names of these governors. This is surreal.

Thank you. It's all over the place with no landing spot. lol

[LarryN]

I thought maybe "Dam Governors" were the guys in charge at places like Hoover and Conowingo.

And what would an afan/justforfun/naive thread be without the ever-popular '"would of"?

[jtowne-swim]

If country came first Obama would not have been re-elected. Greed came first and a free lunch by the Obamaphone crowd. When Obama doesn't deliver I don't knwo what will happen. I guess they'll still blame Bush.

Your ignorance of facts that life line was a Reagan program and expanded to cell phones by George W Bush seems to come first to informed facts!!!!!

[afan]

I thought maybe "Dam Governors" were the guys in charge at places like Hoover and Conowingo.

And what would an afan/justforfun/naive thread be without the ever-popular '"would of"?

It is not hard to see why so many of the 47% showed up and voted. The two Gov's who damaged the right were from Fl and Oh. Their names aren't worthy of mention. The trick backfired and they saw their state go blue , it was also one of the biggest reasons the Republicans lost this election as their attempts at suppressing the vote woke up the sleeping giants of the Latino and African American voter. Get over it Larry, if you ever write anything on here except attack post you actually may have something to read. You are a loser and try to counter this by your negative remarks. A loser always attacks to try and cover their weakness. When that fails they resort on crying and lies.

Here is just one link to see how this was handled.

http://www.thenation.com/blogs/voting-rights-watch-2012

[reg_indy]

If country came first Obama would not have been re-elected. Greed came first and a free lunch by the Obamaphone crowd. When Obama doesn't deliver I don't knwo what will happen. I guess they'll still blame Bush.

I think you might want to examine your closely held beliefs for an answer to your problems....


No such thing as an ObamaPhone. Look into why you believe there is an Obamaphone, and perhaps you might have your eyes opened...

[afan]

I think you might want to examine your closely held beliefs for an answer to your problems....


No such thing as an ObamaPhone. Look into why you believe there is an Obamaphone, and perhaps you might have your eyes opened...

He watches and listens only to Fox. Nuff said...he is in denial and just can't give it up.

[Sprightly]

Your ignorance of facts that life line was a Reagan program and expanded to cell phones by George W Bush seems to come first to informed facts!!!!!

You are leaving out a few steps. Lifeline was started durng the Reagan era; expanded under the Clinton administration; expanded to include mobile phones during the Bush administration; expanded to cover more people during the Obama administration. It is a program that started with good intentions and is now out of control and filled with fraud and waste. Just like any government program. Allegedly, in order to prevent fraud and waste, the program was overhauled this year.

[jtowne-swim]

You are leaving out a few steps. Lifeline was started durng the Reagan era; expanded under the Clinton administration; expanded to include mobile phones during the Bush administration; expanded to cover more people during the Obama administration. It is a program that started with good intentions and is now out of control and filled with fraud and waste. Just like any government program. Allegedly, in order to prevent fraud and waste, the program was overhauled this year.

Yes I simplified it I could also say that it was roosevelt New Deal idea too! The point is anyone calling it an "Obamaphone" is ignorant of the entire program or being extremly intellectually dishonest!