"You can make it in America if you are willing to try" President Obama

[Spot72]

So why are "his people" such slugs, jailed, murdered or on welfare? In other words, just plain garbage?

Examples of "his people"?

[banner1124]

Bobo's? Why the garbage of course.

And who are the garbage? And be specific. I find it amazing that you will beat around the bush but don't have the stones to come out and say what everyone here knows you really mean. Man up or STFU!

[musicmd]

You are delusional.

Don't waste you your time with the walking thesaurus, delusional is an understatement

[Spot72]

"We will forever be the UNITED STATES, God Bless These United States"

[dsummoner]

"We will forever be the UNITED STATES, God Bless These United States"

Nope. That type of Reich-wing jingoism belongs at the Libbie Klavern.

[Spot72]

If you can find a better place, go there.

I agree with that.

[flyboy56]

Very good speech

Obama has always been good at speeches.

[flyboy56]

My country, I don't complain, it is the cost of bizness.

We are severely in debt due to the cost of "bizness." Simple proof our government is operating under a bad business plan.

[gonzoliberal]

We are severely in debt due to the cost of "bizness." Simple proof our government is operating under a bad business plan.

Bad plan, or bad execution of the plan?

"The right" is trying to drown gommint in a bathtub, remember?

[flyboy56]

Bad plan, or bad execution of the plan?

"The right" is trying to drown gommint in a bathtub, remember?

Bad execution? So the plan has been to spend less but due to bad execution the government is spending more? How would the democrats execute the plan better spending wise?

[gonzoliberal]

Bad execution? So the plan has been to spend less but due to bad execution the government is spending more? How would the democrats execute the plan better spending wise?

I'm not a democrat, so I wouldn't know... nor do I assume any responsibility for them.

However, it seems to me that working (read; spending) to eliminate fraud and loopholes would go a long way, management wise. Realistic budgeting and Congressional cooperation wouldn't hurt either.

[flyboy56]

I'm not a democrat, so I wouldn't know... nor do I assume any responsibility for them.

However, it seems to me that working (read; spending) to eliminate fraud and loopholes would go a long way, management wise. Realistic budgeting and Congressional cooperation wouldn't hurt either.

I really do not think our debt problems came about due to fraud and loopholes. But unfortunately, the bigger the government the more fraud is likely.

If you weren't born yesterday then I'm guessing you do have an idea how a true liberal would spend versus how a true conservative would.

[gonzoliberal]

I really do not think our debt problems came about due to fraud and loopholes. But unfortunately, the bigger the government the more fraud is likely.

If you weren't born yesterday then I'm guessing you do have an idea how a true liberal would spend versus how a true conservative would.

I consider myself a "true" liberal, yet I manage my finances quite conservatively. I find that to be pretty generally true.

Even the former Socialist Bernie Sanders, when elected mayor of Vermont's biggest city, balanced the budget and greatly reduced fraud while running a pretty "liberal" show.

I know what you're getting at, but distain it as a strawman, produced in a feeble attemt to make a point.

[flyboy56]

I consider myself a "true" liberal, yet I manage my finances quite conservatively. I find that to be pretty generally true.

Even the former Socialist Bernie Sanders, when elected mayor of Vermont's biggest city, balanced the budget and greatly reduced fraud while running a pretty "liberal" show.

I know what you're getting at, but distain it as a strawman, produced in a feeble attemt to make a point.

I'm not talking about ones personal finances. We are talking about the US federal government. The platform of a true liberal Democrat is bigger government whereas the platform of a true conservative Republican advocates for smaller government. And that is not disputable.

[gonzoliberal]

I'm not talking about ones personal finances. We are talking about the US federal government. The platform of a true liberal Democrat is bigger government whereas the platform of a true conservative Republican advocates for smaller government. And that is not disputable.

So is the proven inability of the Republican Party to live within it's means a matter of poor planning or poor execution?

[flyboy56]

So is the proven inability of the Republican Party to live within it's means a matter of poor planning or poor execution?

Yes, because most are not true conservative Republicans. They lean towards your end of the bigger government spectrum.